Regarding Bank key and Bank account number

Hi All,
I have a query regarding Bank key and Bank account number.
I want to set bank account number length as 9 digits. so I set it @ below path
SPRO -> SAP NetWeaver-> General settings -> Set countries -> Set country specific checks.
I tried to change the bank account number length to 9 digits from existing 10 digits using transaction FI12.
But while changeing the bank account system throws an error like "Bank account number or bank number are not of valid length".
Can any one suggest solution on this?
Thanks in Advance!
Regards,
Nidhi

Dear Nidhi,
It seems that earlier bank account number contained 10 digits and then setting was changed to 9 digits that may be the cause of the error. Do one thing, go back to country setting and restore the bank account number digit to 10. Then make changes to bank account number to 9 digits. Make similar changes to all bank in your company code which has 10 digits.
Then go to country settings and make account number digit to 9 digit which will prevent bank account number to be 10 digits created in future.
Regards,
Chintan Joshi.

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Hi,
Can Some one guide me to unsderstand the maning of,
1) Bank Key and Bank Account in Vendor Master ?
2) Bank Key and Bank Account number in FI12 Tcode ?
3) Because My understanding is In FI12 T Code those are our company code banks thorugh which payment is done to Vendors correct me if Iam wrong.
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Pallavi.

Hi Pallavi,
Press F1 help in the Bank key field, this is the information you find there:
Bank key you specify the bank key under which bank data from the respective country is stored.
When you define the country key, you also specify the country-specific definition of the bank key.
Normally, you manage banks using their bank number. The bank number in the control data for the bank is then displayed twice, that is, as the bank key too.
In certain countries, the bank account number takes on this function; then there are no bank numbers and the bank data is managed using the account number.
For data medium exchange, you may find it useful to be able to enter foreign business partners without a bank number, even if there are bank numbers in the country in question. In this case, the bank key can be assigned internally.
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In Belgium the first three digits of the Bank Account are always equal to the Bank Key.
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Dear,
I checked right now in SPRO, but no validation with combination of Bank key and Bank account - that to particular first 3 digits not available. Option available is with ABAP Development.
Option 1.
You create Bank key using transaction FI01. Remove authorizations for FI01 from all users [Hope this already exists in your system].
In vendor master, if you enter Bank key - which also selectable with F4 option, if bank key manually entered and PRESS ENTER, one more new screen open to enter Bank data. That means after pressing enter system validating our entries in bank key with database and when not available, populating new window to enter new entries.
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Hi,
The number of house banks depends on the branches of the bank.
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