Regarding JMS-Queue/Topic in Proxy and Business service in OSB

Hi
I have one query regarding to the JMS-Queue/Topic.
I am published the message to the JMS-Queue/Topic.
----My Business-service configuration is---
General----Any xml
Tranport--jms://localhost:7001/MyConnectionFactory/RequestQueue
Response--None
I call this Business-service in proxy-service of Routing message was published successfully to thee Queue.
I try to dequeue the message from that queue for this
--- I take another proxy with---
General----Any xml
Tranport--jms://localhost:7001/MyConnectionFactory/RequestQueue
In meassage flow
Routing--second busines-service)
--- Second business-service configuration is---
General----Any xml
Tranport-File (C://temp)
Issue is when I publish the message to Queue,the message is also found in the file i.e C:temp. I don't now why this come to the file.*
Any suggestions
Thanks
Mani

Either I did not get an idea, but in your JMS proxy you are routing to File :)
If you don't want file, why route to 2nd BS ?

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