Regarding Message control

hai guru's i am an abaper and i want to know what i s message control and how is it actually implemented i mean what is the output type , condition tables , condtion records and acess sequence and all , atleast basic functionality
thanx in advance
regards
afzal

I can explain you in brief.
Output Type is used for outputting of documents in SAP.
Output type is what is maintained in PO under messages tab. E.g. NEU is the standard Output type for a PO. When we define an output type in SPRO, we also assign a Progrom and a Layout to this Output type also called Message Type.
ABAPer design the program and the Layout and Functional consultants assign these to the appropriate Output Type.
Output Type can be for PO, RFQ, Contracts, Scheduling Agreements. Each can be defined in SPRO.
Condition Tables are table which contain Condition records. Condition Tables, Condition Records and access sequence are used for price determination in Purchainng / Sales documents.
you define say 2 condition tables with 1-2 fields and then define an access sequence and assign the above defined condition tables in order 1 and 2. then system will first search for the first set of condition table if it finds a condition record then it stops the search otherwise it serches for 2nd condition tabel for condition record. This is the purpose of access sequence.
hope I have explained somewhat.

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  • No partner profiles (message control) maintained.

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    Hi,
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