Regarding multiple receivers

Hi,
I had a query that "Is it possible to send one Msg to different receivers without using BPM...?
And Is this done by Proxies ..if Yes ,how?
Thanking you
Guna

[Since it is a proxy, multimapping is not supported|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/42/ed364cf8593eebe10000000a1553f7/content.htm] Proxy, IDOC, HTTP missing from the list.....with respective to receiver protocols.
It can be done by configuring multiple receivers in the Receiver Determination as suggested by Amit.
You need to maintain a different set of ID objects like Interface Determination, receiver Channel, Receiver Agreement for each of the receivers....Sender Channel and Sender Agreement (if any) will be reused.
If my understanding is wrong about any of the concepts please feel free to correct.
Regards,
Abhishek.

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When the mapping would be the same for all the Suppliers but during configuration we have to determine the receiver based on an IDOC value to route the xml via HTTP or SOAP
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Hi Tirumal,
<i>For this to achieve do we have to create multiple business systems for each receiver?</i>
As you know,Business system is a logical name for the Techincal Systems, Theoretcially it is not required to create different Business systems for the each receivers.
Generally Business Systems are grouped/created based on the Business Process/Functionality/Type of Receivers etc.
So if you think, your each receiver is of type different type/process then create different Business systems.
It depends~
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I think you can do this with BPM only.
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Hi all,
I registered on SAP community several months ago, I found many good hints and solutions to some of the problems encountered in XI and for which I thank you, but this is the first time I address a question to a common issue, written already about.
I have a scenario with 1 File FTP sender adapter and 2 Receiver adapters:1 FTP adapter and 1 MAIL adapter. The input message is sent to one of these receiver adapters based on the value taken by a specific field from the input message.The receiver adapters are using the same party and service.
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I have read "multiple receiver" issue related blogs and tried to use the standard receiver determination. Thus, I have 1 Sender Agreement, 2 Receiver agreements (one for FTP and one for MAIL), 1 Interface Determinations (with the 2 inbound interfaces and interface mappings corresponding to FTP and MAIL output) and 1 standard Receiver Determination where I added the party and service twice and specified for both the condition. The condition is based on XPath, is correct.
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Hi,
I think the problem in Receive Determination. As you mentioned when you remove one of the condition then it works..
What I concluded is, I think while creating your Receiver Determination for multiple receivers you added the receivers by pressing the plus sign and that means you are using mulitiple receivers with "AND" condition, so in this condition when both the condition will be true then only you will get success.
What you can do is, Just remove one of the receivers and then add it by pressing the "OR" symbol i.e. by pressing this ( [ ] ) symbol and put your conditions as you like.
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hi,
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Go to -> Integration Directory-> Open the receiver determination step in change mode.
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I want to configure a scenario like idoc-xi-file (multiple receivers). The file has to be send to particular receiver on the basis of some condition which is kept on the particular field of idoc strucutre.
I am basically a learner and can you please suggest some good blogs or materials to configure this particular scenario ?? Any material with step by step screen shots is highly appreciated.
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there's nothing special in configuration to achive that
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3. when you add a new receiver to receiver determination
you can choose conditions column and specify when (which IDOC field
must have what kind of value) and this will do the routing for you
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Hi,
If the requirement is to send an email whenever there is a problem in any of your interaface/ components, you can always configure alerts and use them without BPM.
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Pradeep Chakravarthy

Hi ,
To send messeges to multiple receivers , you need to specify the recivers in the configured receiver of receiver determination in ID. Also you can use the condition to select the different receivers depending upon the successful conditions.
Inside ID :
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Hi , If you are simply looking up data (and not updating tables ) using RFC you can use RFC Lookup APIs to create a java mapping
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The following is a link which gives you access to a ready made source code. you just need to compile it and create a jar and import the mapping in imported archive
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