Regarding Organization Model
Dear Experts,
Currently I'm working with CRM version 5. And the Org Model in SAP CRM use the SAP HR Org Model in R/3 and the replication is one way, i.e. from SAP R/3 to SAP CRM.
Is it possible to create another organization unit in CRM if Org Model in SAP CRM used that scenario?
I have tried to create an org unit and got run time error 'MOVE_TO_LIT_NOTALLOWED_NODATA'.
Please advice.
Best Regards.
eddhie
Hello
I am not a law expert, but if you can create users, I am sure you can create a dummy position and assign your role there.
Anyway, if your company doesn't allow to use the PPOMA_CRM assignment for these users, the only option you have is assigning user parameter CRM_UI_PROFILE.
A little comment about user parameter: There is no authorization object to prevent users to modify their own user parameters. If you don't want these users to modify their own parameters via SU3, you should create a transaction variant.
Regards
Joaquin
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Business Partner in Organizational Model Missing
Hi
I have added an Org Unit in Development Server and the ID and BP number is generated.
I have Transported from Dev to Quality server by using RHMOVE50 to move the org unit.
The Org unit and ID are transported successfully but the BP number is missing.
Note: Earlier for all other Org Units in Qulaity the BP Number exist.
Please prove me solution and points will be rewared.
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MasthanHi,
Apart from the above steps given by others you can also follow these steps as they did work in my scenario, this generally take some hours for the system to generate the BP ids so its better to schedule these activities in the evening so that when the Ids would be visible the next day I dont know whether this is a standard but this did happen in my case as i had to create the org structure twice so i had this experience twice.
Scenario when the buffering is not done and the Business partner id is not getting created in ppoma_crm
Check Settings for Attribute Maintenance
Check the consistency of the attribute assignments to the organizational units.
1. Access the activity using the following navigation options:
Transaction code SPRO
SAP CRM IMG menu Customer Relationship Management  Master Data  Organizational Management  Organizational Model  Tools  Check Settings for Attribute Maintenance
2. Execute the check.
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1. Access the activity using the following navigation options:
Transaction code SPRO
SAP CRM IMG menu Customer Relationship Management  Master Data  Organizational Management  Organizational Model  Tools  Organizational Data Settings Check
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Setup Buffering for Sales Scenario
Report HRBCI_ATTRIBUTES_BUFFER_UPDATE is used to buffer the attributes of organizational management objects. To enable buffering you have to maintain view T77OMATTR.
Enable Buffering for Sales Scenario
1. Access the activity using the following navigation option:
Transaction code OOATTRCUST
2. Select the structure node Scenarios.
3. Check the checkbox in the column Buffering for the scenario SALE.
4. Choose Save.
Update Buffers for Sales Scenario
1. Access the activity using the following navigation option:
Transaction code SA38
2. Call transaction SA38.
3. Select the report HRBCI_ATTRIBUTES_BUFFER_UPDATE
4. Select the checkboxes for Delete All Buffers and Restructure buffer on Date.
5. Choose Execute (F8).
In note 737315 further details regarding this topic are described. Note you can also schedule a job in transaction SM36 to run this report regularly.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Guys
We are maintaining the complex Organization model in R/3 system and we need to Download the complete organization Model from R/3 to CRM and its relevant Organization structures too. I could not found a way what is the download object to be used to download the Organization model from R/3 to CRM .
will the Transaction CRMC_R3_ORG_STRUCTURE download the Organization model also , and what is the prerequisites for this organization model download
Thanks in advance
Warm regards
RajasekharDear Jayesh
1) Do the ALE specific settings like creating Logical systems , Rfc destination,
Distribution Model .
2) Specify the filters in the distribution model as per the note 312090, 550055
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/people/vikash.krishna/blog/2006/10/15/replicating-hr-master-data-part-1
Warm regards
Rajasekhar -
Attributes value in Organizational Model
HI,
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The problem is that I need to have many different values in each OU for this attribute; for a several value entries, I need to automatically determine a OU for each BP.
Is there any way to set this values from a pre-created table or do I need to set this manually (all values in tx PPOSA_CRM for eah OU) ?
EX: OU 1 values 100101, 100102, 100103u2026 100999
OU 2 values 010110, 010111, 010112, u2026010199
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Organizational Model Determination Rule
Hello !
I am looking for an organizational model determination rule which is looking for the Org Unit of the given employee responsible. Could anybody help?
Maybe a little more explanation. I created a partner determination procedure which looks for the employee responsible via the business partner. The system should then look for the organizational unit in the org model, which belongs to the employee responsible. Therefore I need an organizational model determination rule.
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AstridHi Prajit ,
We want to determine Org based on employee responsible but not on basis of USER.
Employee responsible will be assigned to a particular position in Organization .
We want to determine Organization unit where Employee is assigned to that particular position.
When employee resposnsible is changed Org unit (Service ) should be changes .
Please suggest solution.
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We have created the organizational model in our system where we have the levels that are tied to a specific business role. We have been manually assigning all of our users to these organizational model levels in order to have the business role assignment. I am curious if there is a program or easier way to do this than to have to create the assignment to the employee record manually in the org model.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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maintaining the user profile directly may be easier with only a few employees but for large companies this method will end up being more maintenance intensive.
for Org you only have to maintain it on the Org unit or position and all employees underneath will inherit the role; whether it's 2 individuals or 2000. and if the person is moved into a different position laterally or through promotion there would be no maintenance required as the information would replicate from HR (if you use/have the system) and the person would inherit the new position and role automatically.
for User parameter if you only have 2 individuals it is easier but 2000 is too much to maintain. there is some automation but would require you to create them and run them yourself.
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Multiple Sold-to-Parties in Organizational Model
Dear All,
I've made an Organizational Model with multiple Sold-to-Parties. With that the same amount of Distribution Channels and Divisions have to be maintained, which i have done.
The problem now is that i can't seem to maintain the relation of those Distribution Channels and Divisions with the Business Partner in the Sales area Data of the Sold-to-Party in transaction BP. I can only choose between the original Sales Organization, Distribution Channel, and Division.
The only thing that has changed is that it isn't called Distribution Channel 01 / Division 01 anymore, but the name i gave it. That is the strange part too, since that's done in the same transaction where i've added the other Distribution Channels and Divisions too.
Hopefully anyone can tell me how the Distribution Channels and Divisions i've added will show up in the Sales Area Data in order to link them to the Sold-to-Party.
Thanks in advance,
R.KunstHi Gun. and Jay.
Thanks for both of your reactions, you're both thinking in the same direction as I am, and where I think we should look for the solution to this problem...
Gun: You've understood me right and yes, I've already tried exactly what you've told me, but that doesn't work somehow.
What I mean by the line you didn't understand is this:,I've made changes to the Distribution Channel and Division that were already provided by SAP, and those changes show up in the Sales Area Data. The Divisions and Distribution Channel I've added don't show up though. So i know I've changed the settings in the correct Transaction, but they still don't show up.
Jay: I've also tried what you're telling me, because I think that should be the right way too, but that didn't work and I don't know why...
Hopefully we can find an answer to this together since I've already heard from more people who have encountered the same problem.
Best Regards,
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NewColutions B.V. -
Hello,
at the beginning of CRM in our company we created an organizational model. There we have a hierarchy with sales organisation --> sales buro --> sales group.
Now we have a new office in another country. For the new office we have to create a new sales organisation, four new sales buro and four new sales group.
I find the posibility to create these in SPRO --> SAP Reference IMG --> CRM --> Master Data --> Organizational Management --> Organizational Model --> Change Organizational Model.
If I create a new instance here it gets the next available ID.
In the PCUI fields these instances are sorted of the ID. Is there any possibility to achieve that the new sales organisation appears between the existing sales organisations?
Thanks for your help!
Regards
PhilippHi,
whatever the orgn you have created select that and under that create this orgn.
I hope this works
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Madhuri -
BP number in Organization model
Hi experts
When we will creating new organization structure along with Org Id BP # will be coming automatically
I would like to know what are the settings need to be done for this.
becoz now when i am creating in my production server now it is not displaying BP # for newly created Org model
Many thanks
VinayHi Vinay,
Go to IMG> CRM>Master DataBusiness PartnerIntegration Business Partner-Organization Management--Set Up Integration with Organizational Management.
Here you have to set up:
HRALX HRAC X
HRALX OBPON ON
HRALX ONUMB 2
HRALX OSUBG and here the no range for ur org.
Apart from the above steps, follow the steps given below as they did work in my scenario, this generally take some hours for the system to generate the BP ids so its better to schedule these activities in the evening so that when the Ids would be visible the next day.
Scenario when the buffering is not done and the Business partner id is not getting created in ppoma_crm
Check Settings for Attribute Maintenance
Check the consistency of the attribute assignments to the organizational units.
1. Access the activity using the following navigation options:
Transaction code SPRO
SAP CRM IMG menu Customer Relationship Management  Master Data  Organizational Management  Organizational Model  Tools  Check Settings for Attribute Maintenance
2. Execute the check.
Organizational Data Settings Check
See documentation of the IMG activity for details about this check
1. Access the activity using the following navigation options:
Transaction code SPRO
SAP CRM IMG menu Customer Relationship Management  Master Data  Organizational Management  Organizational Model  Tools  Organizational Data Settings Check
2. Execute the check.
Setup Buffering for Sales Scenario
Report HRBCI_ATTRIBUTES_BUFFER_UPDATE is used to buffer the attributes of organizational management objects. To enable buffering you have to maintain view T77OMATTR.
Enable Buffering for Sales Scenario
1. Access the activity using the following navigation option:
Transaction code OOATTRCUST
2. Select the structure node Scenarios.
3. Check the checkbox in the column Buffering for the scenario SALE.
4. Choose Save.
Update Buffers for Sales Scenario
1. Access the activity using the following navigation option:
Transaction code SA38
2. Call transaction SA38.
3. Select the report HRBCI_ATTRIBUTES_BUFFER_UPDATE
4. Select the checkboxes for Delete All Buffers and Restructure buffer on Date.
5. Choose Execute (F8).
In note 737315 further details regarding this topic are described. Note you can also schedule a job in transaction SM36 to run this report regularly.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
A S -
Organization Model Before Data Replication
Dear SRM Gurus,
System:- SRM5.0 EBP5.5
I am stuck in CRM-Middleware, data replication from R/3 to SRM.
Can i still prepare ORGANIZATION MODEL, before replicating data.
Best Regards,
ANIL RAJPAL.Dear Yann,
I have replicated Product categories from one R/3 site.
a) Am using SRM5.0 EBP5.5, should i run report to get vendors into PPOCV_BBP ?
b) In PPOMA_BBP - in attributes VALUE field is GREY - i cant put any entry in it ? have i missed any config ?
Best Regards,
ANIL. -
Sales Area, Organizational Model and Territory Management
Dear Experts,
I'm meeting unexpected system behaviour (CRM Release 2007) during the configuration of the territory management, below the steps I have done:
1. Define a new Employee from BP transaction
2. Go to "Organizational Model", create a new position under the existing organizational unit and assign the new BP to it.
3. Go to "Maintain Territory Hierarchy", add a regional level to the existing structure, add the new BP and set the appropriate territory attributes.
4. Go to "Maintain sales area for territories from Org. Model", select the new regional level and click on "Show Sales Areas". The system shows as attributes status "Position 50000125 has no sales areas".
Where can I set the sales area for the territory?
Thanks in advanced for your help.
Kind regards,
Alberto
Edited by: Alberto Angelini on Apr 7, 2009 6:43 PM
Edited by: Alberto Angelini on Apr 7, 2009 6:44 PMHi,
In TCODE CRMM_TERRMAN under the tab where the positions for a territory are assigned,
check if Territory attributes are maintained. There should be SA_SALES_AREA maintained here.
Also in TCODE PPOMA_CRM under the Function Tab check whether the Sales Area for the position is maintained.
Regards,
Masood Imrani S. -
Business Role Assignment to User by Organizational Model
We have created the organizational model in our system where we have the levels that are tied to a specific business role. We have been manually assigning all of our users to these organizational model levels in order to have the business role assignment. I am curious if there is a program or easier way to do this than to have to create the assignment to the employee record manually in the org model.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
DarcieHi Robert,
maintaining the user profile directly may be easier with only a few employees but for large companies this method will end up being more maintenance intensive.
for Org you only have to maintain it on the Org unit or position and all employees underneath will inherit the role; whether it's 2 individuals or 2000. and if the person is moved into a different position laterally or through promotion there would be no maintenance required as the information would replicate from HR (if you use/have the system) and the person would inherit the new position and role automatically.
for User parameter if you only have 2 individuals it is easier but 2000 is too much to maintain. there is some automation but would require you to create them and run them yourself.
pfcg at most companies do not fall under general master data maintenance and would require involvement from the security group and they often do not want to generate empty or unnecessary security/authorization profiles - the maintenance workload is shifted to them also in this case.
regards. -
Hi Gurus
Can any one tell me in detail , how the organizational Model is created and why it is done. If possible , could anyone explain with some real life examples.
Thanks in advance.Hi
An organizational model models the functional organizational structure of your company. Organizational units represent functions such as department, group, etc. Positions show how tasks are assigned to jobs, e.g. end user, purchaser or message processor.
In Scenario Service Desk you can use the organization model for building and retrieving the support team and the Sold-To-Party.
First you have to create with transaction PPOCA_CRM a root organization unit for your support team and antotherone for the company organization.
Then you can build the structure of your support team respectively your company organization. Therefor u use transaction PPOMA_CRM.
*Example-Structure:*
- Support Team Company
-- Support BC
--- Support Employee 1
--- Support Employee 2
-- Support FI
--- Support Employee 3
--- Support Employee 4
-- Support SD
--- Support Employee 5
--- Support Employee 6
-- etc.
- Company Organization Company
-- Busines Unit 1
--- Finance & Controlling BU1
Employee 10
Employee 11
--- Logistics BU1
Employee 12
Employee 13
--- etc
-- Busines Unit 2
--- Finance & Controlling BU2
Employee 20
Employee 21
--- Logistics BU2
Employee 22
Employee 23
--- etc
Regard Andreas -
Organizational Model Determination by Responsability
Hi experts:
I have the complain scenario. Depends of the Complaint's Reason is the organizational model responsible.
I tried to create a Determination Rule of the Organizational Model by Responsibility to evaluate the Code Group of the Catalog Type C1.
When I create the responsibility in the Container It allows me to add the Structure and the Field that I want to evaluate and an initial value if I want.
I am using structure: CRMT_6305_SRV_SUBJECT_UI
Field: CODEGRUPPE
But when I try to create the Responsibility the system throws an error: "XX-XXX-XXX It is not valid input value".
I have to do anything else to allow create the responsibilities??. Itu2019s missing to active something? or I was using a wrong structure.
Thanks in advanced!
Sussie.Hi Prajit ,
We want to determine Org based on employee responsible but not on basis of USER.
Employee responsible will be assigned to a particular position in Organization .
We want to determine Organization unit where Employee is assigned to that particular position.
When employee resposnsible is changed Org unit (Service ) should be changes .
Please suggest solution.
Thanks & Regards,
Anup Reche -
Determining Organizational Model information for a BP
I am currently working on a report development where there is a requirement to show both Territory and Organizational Model information.
For Territories, it's a simple matter of using the available function modules to determine a Sales Person and their area for a particular customer post-code. Finding similar information for a Service Engineer maintained in the Organizational Model is proving very difficult.
Is anyone aware of any functional modules i could use to determine this information using just BP information (i.e. post code, partner number, etc)??
I understand that i would have to determine the Sales Area information before being able to fetch the Service Org, Team, Territory etc information. Having searched for function modules within CRM and on multiple forums, i haven't found a way of doing this.
This is the first time i've worked on Organizational models so any help would be very much appreciated.Hi Indi,
I dont know about what kind of data you require, but i think this FM would be useful
CMS_BUPA_ORGDATA_GET_BL.
Also for details of an org can be obtained for a CRM_ORGMAN* any of the FM.
Regards
Sidd
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