Regarding Residual Payment logic
While runing AG report I need original invoice number for Residual Payment invoice amount
For eg., Invoice amount Rs.10,000, customer paid Rs.2000 after 2 month he paid Rs.3000 then after 3 month he paid Rs. 4000. If i run AG report i need original Invoice number as reference.
I need to inform to my technical team what is the logic in Residual payment and how we can bring the original invoice number in reference field
Hi,
For that you can create and assign installment process for that payment.
Go to the transaction OBB8,OBB9
Create Installment payment term and assign it.
May be this information is useful to you
If you have any doubt feel free to ask
Regards
Surya
Similar Messages
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Hi All,
In my project, i want to get the original accounting document no incase of residual payment made for reporting purpose. can anyone tell the logic to get the same?
Thanks
LakshmiDear,
There is a field called inovice which will helpful to meet your requirement. When you create residual item against invoice then respective invoice number is filled in the Invoice field in the residual line item in the document.
Regards,
Chintan Joshi. -
Hello Gurus!!!!
Do you know how I can obtain the amount of a residual payment in a Z program? For example, a have an invoice of 10,000 USD and I execute a residual payment of 3,600 USD. There is only left 6,400 for payment. How can I obtain the value of 3,600 searching in tables BSEG, BSAK, BSIK? Using logical database KDF complicates a little bit the solution.
Thanks!!!
Fernando.Hi,
Whenever you use Residual Payment, then the Invoice Number (Original Document No.) field and date gets updated in the BSEG/BSIK table. With this you can get to know that this is a Residual Document for that Open Line Item and then you can get the amount as well. Suggest you use BSIK table as this is the Secondary Index Table.
There is also one more way of handling residual item, which is by creating a separate document type for residual items. I dont have an idea whether your company has a separate document type for the same.
Hope this info is of some help to you.
Award points if found useful.
Regards,
Venkat
Edited by: venkat bala on Nov 22, 2008 4:43 AM -
Limiting or control for Residual payment with reason codes
Hi FI Gurus,
When we are received or making payment to customer or vendor, sometimes we need to clear the invoice by receiving or making payments with small differences through residual payment. Is there any control for limiting residual payment.
Lets have an example
invoice posted for 1000
customer dr 1000
sales cr 1000
Partial payment recd 500
cash/bank dr 500
customer cr 500
final payment received 350 and balanace amount adjusted with residual payment by defining reason code like rounding off difference. So in this case accounting entry will be
customer cr 350
rounding off diff 150
cash/bank 500
being final payment agaisnt invoice
My question: Is there any way to restrict the residual payment like 10% or 20% of total invoice i.e. 100 or 200 and not more than 20% ? other wise sometime user may adjust any amount may be 100000 through this way by putting the same reason code, which is not fair.
I checked SPRO setting but i did not get anyt setting relating to above case.
If any body know, please let me know? Thanks in advance
Regards,
PrakashHi Lawerance,
Thanks for reply.
But I am looking for amount adjusted through residual with reason code. I dont think there is any limitation or control in the SPRO standard setting. Tolerance is preventing user to post document for more than a specific amount. But my question is something different.
I want to control the user for adjusting amount from residual tab with selecting reason code. In other words user should not adjust more than some limit with residual payment by selecting reason codes. Thanks.
Regards,
Prakash -
Duplicate invoice, partial payment, residual payment
Hi every body
I am facing some problems in AP
1. I post a invoice in AP
I see that there are two document number 190000006
Please tell me why?
2. I pay a invoice with amount of 200000 in two times
firstly, I post a partial payment with amount 100000 (document number 1500000032)
secondly, I post a residual payment with remaining amount 100000 (document number 1500000033)
The invoice is paid completely and clear automatically but the are two documents (1500000032, 1500000033) is not cleared
Please tell me the payment process? how to clear payment document?
Thank in advance
MinhHi
Pls check SAP standard program RPBNUM00 for document numbers assigned more than once,
if your are using payment posting is using FB05 / F-53 transaction and in which Transfer Posting with clearing radio button is selected.
Let me know for any clarifications required
Regards,
suresh -
In T code F-28, residual payment tab is hideout
Hi all,
In F-28 for making customer residual payment, tab option is not appearing, I checked in Accounting editing options(Fb00) there "process open items with commands" and " Enter payment amt for residual amounts" were already selected.
Eventhough the residual payment tab is hideout. Is there any thing we need to select for the tab.
Thanks & Regards,
DharaniHi Chintan,
Thanks for the reply. But there are no such validations.
Regards,
Dharani -
Residual payment should not allow more than Vendor Invoice
Hi,
Eg: Vendor has booked invoice 5000 INR, when user make payment through F-53 or F-58 through "Residual" payment user can pay more than invoice 5002 INR and below accounting entry is posting.
Bank Cr 5002 INR
To Vendor Dr 5000 INR (Invoice amount)
To Vendor Dr 02 INR Excess than invoice
Business requirement is system should not allow pay more than invoice amount. How to control suggestion would be appreciated.
I have done below settings for your understanding here system configuration.
1. OBA3: Under "Permitted Payment difference" zero for Gain , Loss , Amount, Percent & Adjust Discount By However "Permitted Payment Differences for Automatic write-Off(Function code AD)" zero.
2. OBA4: Cash discount per line item: Zero and Under "Permitted Payment difference" Revenues, Expense, Percent & Cash discount put Zero.
Regards,
Babu.Hi Prashant,
I have restricted many fields to use through screen variant now user can not pay more than Invoice amount except through Residual payment process.
Client side management strongly says that they want to use Partial and Residual payment process options but user should not allow pay more than invoice amount.
If any solution please guide me.
Regards,
Babu. -
Residual Payment vs. Partial Payment: Design considerations
We need to decide between implementing residual payment vs. partial payment. We will be implementing payment processing.
I would like to understand why one would choose one method over another?
What is the benefit of clearing original invoice and creating a new line item for the balance (as in case of residual payments)? There is a setting that allows user to capture the original invoice date at the time of payment processing while using residual payment, which I believe makes the residual payments same as partial payments, so again, why would one choose one method over another?
I would like to understand the benefits & limitations of each method.
How does the decision to implement a method get impacted if reason codes are to be implemented, which method would offer a better solution considering reason codes requirement?
Appreciate your inputs.Hi,
In manual processing of incoming payments, it is of course the user who can make the decision to either make residual item, or a partial payment.
In automatic processing of incoming payments:
For electronic bank statements, payments that the system cannot match with open items will end up in post-processing; there the user can again choose either residual item or partial payment.
For electronic payment advices, I know that there is configuration to match customer information for payment deductions in the payment advice, with you own reason codes, and that based on the information the system can create the residual items automatically. Of course, this is only relevant if your customers actually send you electronic payment advices with such information included.
Regarding reason codes, you will always use reason codes with residual items; to indicate the reason for deduction for follow up in your A/R dept, and possibly to make use of the automatic write off (you can configure reason codes to automatically write off the payment deduction to some G/L account of your choosing; you would use that e.g. if the payment deduction is too small to bother).
For partial payment, you could use reason codes I guess, if you want to in that way mark the item for some reporting or follow up purpose.
Regards,
Rob -
F-32 residual payment is affecting my ageing report.
When I am doing the residual payment using f-32 then we are getting two document generated out this, one for the incoming payment and the other for the balance amount as new invoice with new posting date, this is affecting my ageing report.
For Example: My old invoice is 01.01.2010 with 1000 USD, when I am applying the residual payment method on 08.03.2010 with 500 USD then two documents are generated out this, one for the incoming payment i.e. for 500 USD and the other for the balance amount as new invoice with new posting date i.e. 500 USD on 08.03.2010.
My original invoice ageing is under over 81 days, but when we applied the residual payment method then it got changed to less than 21 days, which is incorrect. When we analysis the issue and found that due the residual payment method we are getting this problem i.e. during this process new invoice which is generated ahs replaced my original invoice with the new invoice with new posting date, system is taking that as base and doing the ageing analysis. Which is incorrect?
We just want to have the original invoice date 01.01.2010 in the new document which is generated on 08.03.2010, so that this may not affect my ageing report.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Rajesh Kumar Mantri.When you post a residual payment, SAP creates 1 document with 2 line items for the customer. One line item clears the original invoice and the other posts the difference (residual) as a new open item on the customer. With the settings in OBA3, you can transfer the baseline date and payment terms from the original invoice to the residual item. The baseline date is normally used for aging, so with the baseline date and payment terms transfer, the residual will have the same aging as the original invoice. Also, since the original invoice is cleared when a residual payment is created, it will not show on the aging.
If you want the original invoice to remain open, not cleared, after the payment, then you need to do a partial payment instead of a residual payment. With a partial payment, the original invoice and the payment will both be open items on the customer. The payment will reference the original invoice so that when the remaining payment is made, the two items will be cleared together.
Regards,
Shannon -
Partial and residual payments (Incoming) through F-28
Hi
I am trying to understand how partial and residual payments works.
1) I have an invoice of $100 for customer. I am getting a payment of $30 from customer.
When i am clearing this using partial payments tab in F-28, it is creating a new document of $30 open item for the customer and leaving $100 open item again (not clearing) for the same customer.
My question is it becomes $130 open for the same customers though he paid $30, why is that?
2) How does residual payments works for the same example above?
Can anyone explain clearly please?
Thanks in advance
AleemHi Aleem,
Partial payment : A partial payment is a payment that is posted to an account without any open items being cleared. You assign this partial payment to an open item. When you post the partial payment, the system marks the document number of the original open item in the line item for the partial payment. The original open item and the partial payment remain open.
E.g. Invoice = $100
Partial payment =$ -(30)
Residual : . You clear the original open item, and the system posts a new open item. This new open item is for the same amount as the original open item minus the amount paid.
E.g : New invoice = $ 70
Regards
Nadini -
While doing F-32 residual payment - Two documents generated AB and RV
Hi all,
While Clearing partial payment with respect to Invoice thorough F-32 ( As residual )- Two documents generated AB and RV in development system.
where as in Quality and Production system there is only one AB document generated.
Is it standard behavior to generate AB and RV?
Customer don't what that RV document to be generated.Hi,
This is one of the option given by SAP to manage your open items in case of partial payments. In this process when you go for residual payment, your original open item against which partial payment is made gets cleared & system automatically creates a new open item with the balance amount.
e.g you have an open item of Rs 10,000/- since 01.03.2014 & today i.e on 01.04.2014 you are making an payment of Rs 6,000/- against the said item & you opt for residual payment. In this case the original open item i.e Rs 10,000/- gets cleared & a new open item of i.e Rs 4,000/- get created . Note that this new open item created by the system will have the new document date (01.04.2014) and new baseline date, i.e here aging of your receivable/payable does not reflects the true picture.
But this is not the case when you opt for partial clearing method. In partial clearing method , the original open item is not cleared, instead both the items are shown as open items.
If you take the case of above example, after making the partial payment of Rs 6,000/- against Rs 10,000/- you will have two open items. One the original one of Rs 10,000/- since 01.03.2014 and another for Rs 6,000/- on 01.04.2014.In this case the aging of your receivable/payable shows the true picture.
Yes its a business decision ,which method to adopt.
Thanks & regards
Deepak -
Hello folks,
I would appreciate some assistance on the following question. POINTS AVAILABLE.
<b>What is the difference between the Partial Payment and Residual Payment tabs in F-28 or F-52?</b> When do I use one versus the other?
Let's say for example that a customer owe's my client $50. This customer decides to pay a partial amount of $20. How do I enter this in F-28? Do I go to the Residual pmt tab and enter $20? Will the system recalculate what the customer owe's the client (which will now be $30)?
Thanks in advance!Hi,
In case of partial Payment, payment made will create another open item. It will not be settled with an existing open item. Document against which the payment is partially made will remain open and and the amount partially paid will also remaim open. E.G.
Vendor X1 - open Item of 2000/-
Amount partially paid: 1000/-
Both the documents that is of 2000/- and 1000/- will remain as open item in vendor's account.
However, in case of residual payment, open item against which amount is paid partially, will be cleared and an open item will be created with balance amount and will have reference to the original document that can ve viewed in document flow.
E.g.
Vendor X1 - open Item of 2000/-
Amount partially paid: 1000/ with residual payment option
document with 2000/- open item will be cleared with document of 1000/- (payment document) and will create another document with 1000/- which will be remain open with reference to original document that is of 2000/-.
Hope this helps.
Please assign points as a way to say thanks.
Regards, -
Part payment and residual payment
hi sap gurus
i need the diff between part payment and residual payment, and what is the part payment and what is residual paymentHi
Reply for difference between partial Payment and residual payment
Assumption: An expense of Rs.20000 is accounted.
Example of partial Payment
Step one. When the Vendor invoice posted
Exp Dr 20000
Vendor Cr 20000
2nd step: At the time of payment If Partial payment method adopted.
Vendor a/c Dr 10000
Bank Sub Account Cr 10000
Note :If you will go for vendor balance display , it will show both Debit and Credit balance in the vendor account.
(T Code FBL1n)
Example of residual Payment
Step one: When the vendor invoice is posted
Expenses A/c Dr 20000
Vendor A/c Cr 20000
Step two: If residual payment method is applied
Vendor A/c Dr 20000
Bank Sub Account Cr 10000
Vendor A/c Cr 10000
Note: Here the system will clear the original open item and create a new open item for balance amount which is not paid now. In this case it is difficult to know the reference of the original invoice. If you will go for vendor balance display it will show an open item of Rs.10000 only.
Assign points if you find it useful for you
Regards.
Surendra -
How to change the residual payment document type?
Hi,
When i make residual partial payment then the document type of the residual amt will become DZ/KZ. However this is wrong because all invoices must be DR or KR. How can i change this doc type for residual payments?hi,
its quite simple i beleive .. all you need to do is let me take an example of a customer ...
while a collecting a payment from a customer you recieve it from the tcode f-28
so once you are on the screen you are asked for a date and doc type also
this is were you can change the doc type
regards
sayeed -
Disable Residual Payments Tab in open item processing
Is there any way to disable the RESIDUAL PAYMENTS TAB in F-53/ F-58 open item processing screen.
Hi,
Try SHD0..Screen transaction variant.
Regards,
SAPFICO
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