Regarding:Return process of Packaging material to Vendor

Dear SAP Experts,
When we purchase consumables material it come in packaging material from vendor.
Then we send packaging material back to vendor.But this process is mannual.
Now we want this process by system.
Please help to configure this procedure in my system.
With Regards
Mukul Kumar

hI,
I hope you are looking for packaging instruction for vendor.
As vendor will send the materiel in packaging and after delivering the material will take back the packaging material. if this is yes. Then it can be deal with Handling unit the benefit you would have of this is, harmonized way of packaging the material. And even you can create packaging instruction to vendor with weight and seize of the product .
Configuration as below for handling unit.
Go to SPRO> Logistics - General>Handling Unit Management--step1)>Define Packaging Material Types
Step 2) Define Material Group for Packaging Materials-
Step 3) Define Allowed Packaging Materials- By assigning packaging material types to the material groups for packaging materials, you define which packaging materials are allowed for packing.
Step 4) Use Handling Unit Supplements
SPRO> Logistics - General>Handling Unit Management>External Identification>Set Unique Number Assignment for HU Identification--It is only possible to indicate a storage location as HU-managed if you have set this indicator. The use of non-assigned handling units without unique number assignment is not supported
Step 2) Number Range Maintenance for HU Identification--You can maintain number ranges for number assignment for handling unit identification via number range intervals which is consists of 9 digits without overlapping
step 3) SSCC Generation Acc to EAN128
3 a) Maintain Number Range Object for SSCC-- Number range object "LE_SSCC" is provided with interval "01" and a 9-digit number length. Create the number range objects and intervals necessary for your organization and country dependent.
3 b) Maintain SSCC Generation for Each Plant / Storage Location-
4) SPRO> Logistics - General>Handling Unit Management>Automatic Packing> Packing Instructions Master Data-->Define Number Ranges for
Packing Instructions.
All your setting is in place
Then go to POP1 to create packaging instruction.
And maintain determination record using POF1 with key combination as vendor /Plant/ material, for condition type RCPT For incoming material & SHIP-Ship to party material.
Or even you can send back the returnable packaging material by using 501M > MIGO>Other Movt type--> 501M.
Hope this clear.
Rgs

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we are implementing SAP in a Brazilien plant.
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Before struggling with the vendor return process,just know concept behind vendor return process.
For example if you procure a material like Oring 1000 quantity and you are procuring this material very rarely and you used 900 quantity in your company during production and now 100 quantity are in stock. If you have no use of that material Oring further (if you feel and business needs) and now want to dispose ,you have two options .
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NOTE:
Movement type 102 is used to cancel the GR (which created with Movement type 101) and this is
used to just cancel the GR.
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We have a business case where our client is supplying packaging material (pallets) to suppliers and they pack their material in those packaging and supply to our client.
Expenses incurred for such packaging are expensed off but my client wants to track the inventory of packaging material lying with each vendor.
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regards
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We purchase oil in drum and per pallet can hold 4 drums, after usage of oil we will send few drums and pallets back to vendor.
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- generate the packaging material items (drum & pallet in your case)
- post them to stock during GR.
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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/09/4b2268d27211d3b4f7006094b9b9dd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/0e/b5d25ba71211d2b44e006094b9b9dd/frameset.htm
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Hi,
Either you can do only one process with following options:
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Option-1:
Now do cancel GR with 122 movement and then J1IS to cancel your invoice document .Go for J1IV for to print invoice followed by Credit memo in MIRO t.code.
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Over here the duties are not flowing in J1IS transaction.
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Taxes are not flowing in J1IS transaction.
While doing J1IS , Click on the "Get Excise Invoice" Button on the header screen menu, This will open up a screen for you to select the appropriate Incoming invoice for reference, the base value will be picked up from this .
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1. How do we configure this process in SAP?
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3. How do we issue the Pallets to the vendor?
4. How do we GR the Pallets?
5. Should we treat the pallets as a special Material?
6. How to track the Pallets?
7. Can we implement WM for tracking pallets?(like can we use Storage Unit Management to track pallets)
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Create Pallets material as a material Type LEIH...
Now create PO for your RM's...
Do GRN for above PO ...In the GRN RM material will come in the GRN...Now you click on transport equipment button (last button) , just below the item grid table...
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Hi gurus,
can any body explain me abt returns process to vendor in the material management.
Thanks in advance..
regards,
vikram.

hi
Procedure to return stock to vendor
f LIV and Payment to Vendor is done then
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
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Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt
Doc Year
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Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
if LIV and Payment to Vendor is not done then
1. MIGO > Return delivery > Material Document (Here refer GR doc, system will determine mvmt type "122" automatically)
2. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 122 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
3. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
4. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Original PO.
Note: - Excise Transactions to be followed if CIN functionality is in use.
ACCOUNTING ENTRIES
The cycle flows like this;
At the time of GR (MIGO);
Stock A/c - Dr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
Excise Invoice Posting (J1IEX);
CENVAT Receivable A/c - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
At the time of LIV (MIRO);
Vendor A/c - Cr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr
At the time of Vendor Return (MIGO);
Stock A/c - Cr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
Excise Invoice for Vendor Return (J1IS & J1IV);
CENVAT Receivable A/c - Cr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr
At the time of Credit Memo (MIRO);
Vendor A/c - Dr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
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Edited by: kunal ingale on Jan 8, 2009 12:37 PM

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Hi All
My scenario is like this
My semi finished material is come from vendor after that i put that material on production after doing all process production done the GR for that material as finished goods. This material goes into quality and here I come to know that the material is rejecting because of vendor. But the GR is done on finished material code so I have to do the material to material transfer by movement type 309. And then reject the material on vendor coz Material code for vendor material is different and material code after production is different
I want to ask is their any other process to map this scenario
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Hi,
Sorry for replying late.
Pl. I am not worring about points. My only concern is I should share my knowledge and improve knowledge by following the others inputs.
Whatever the quantity you have to reject against a particular vendor, can be enterered in the complaint quantity.
You have to enter the FG material no., in which you are rejecting in the parent material field.
In the child material field, you have to enter the material no. which you have recd. from the vendor (refer BOM)
After that, you have to scrap the material by using T code QM10.
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I can understand the process, I just asked what this has to do with returnable packaging?
you dont have to return this to the vendors, you dont expect it returned from your customer. So why is it returnable packaging then?
I would not use returnable packaging material type for at least 2 reasons: it is a material type for a speical process in SAP, and you confuse the users putting materials in that material type but using then a different process.
In general you can sell anything. The big question is just how you want the material to be in your system.
should it be stock managed or not? should it be valuated or not.
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