Regarding subcontracting

sap gurus
if i mention 40% component usage in MMR , then why not that percentage is not picking while creating me21n in subcontrating scenario in item detail/materail tab/componenets.
plz help me out

hi,
Are you taking abt component scrap %??
Regards
Priyanka.P
Pls don't reply on it, so that i'll update on it only....

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Regarding Subcontracting Challan:

Dear SAP Gurus.,
One Purchase order (Subcontract ) created with two Parent items (Say suppose A, B)
( Parent Item A----> Child Componet (despatched to subcontractor) X
Parent Item B----> Child Componet (despatched to subcontractor) Y)
Despatched the total two materials against one subcontracting challan two subcontractor at a time.
One item is fully recieved and assigned the subcontracting challan accordingly
and the second line item is received partially and assigned the partial quantity to that challan .
Now the return date (180 days is completed)
After completion of 180 days the pending material has come from the vendor.
As per 57AC rules the 180 days is completed and in this case how to proceed can anybody can guide me.
whether i have to complete the challan
or how to go about this.
This is the first time the the material crossed 180days from the subcontract.
Please help me in this regard
Rgds
Surya

Hi ,
From the subcontractor inward the material in 542 movement only for all the material what you have sent, it will be in your company stores account .(without billing)
You can then send the subcontracting material by ME2O again to the subcontracting material.
normal procedure is every month beginning stores person will give the details of material lying in subcontractors end to have a track.
G.Ganesh Kumar

Regarding Subcontract Challan

Dear Gurus . ,
The 57F4 Subcontract Challan is posted with reference to 541 Movement type material document number.
We know that the subcontract Challan can be posted using using either J1IF or J1IF01 Transaction code.
I am not able to identify whether this challan is posted through J1IF or J1IF01 .
I want to know very urgently regarding,
I am not able find how the challan is posted.
Kindly please help in this regard.
Rgds
Surya

if you have mantained 7 child itemin PO and S/C for only 6 items and done 541 movement for all 7 items then while doing migo
system will do 543 for all the 7 child item till here there is no problem then you need to capture the S/C at the header level for all the 6 child items.
Now while doing the Reco in J1IFQ you need to mantain the qty you have actually consumed for making the FG.
Just give there the qty you have mantained in the migo document in each chile line item.
Hope it helps
Reward if usefull
Regards
Sujoy

Regarding Subcontracting issue

Sapgurus,
Suppose, we have the component "A" of 5 Nos send to Vendor for making Finisihed component "B" of 5 nos. In the Vendor place where the palting process will be carried out in the each component of "A",so that finished component "B" of 5 Nos will be procused but during the plating process where the vendor has used the 3 kg of chemcal of silver for coating. But while sending the bill, he is mentioning the usage of the 3 kg of chemical in quantity and the Labour charge.
But in SAP where at the time MIRO, we have only option of getting Nos as Unit of Measure but there is no option of getting "Kg" Unit of Measure.
Please solve this issue
Thanking you
Praveer

HI,
Maintain the Order price unit as KG & maintain the appropriate unit conversion in material master for KG & no:'s. so that you can do the GR in base unit of Measure (Nos) & can do the MIRO in Order price unit i.e KGs.
Thanks & Regards,

Regarding Subcontracting of Maintenance Spare..............

Hello Everybody........
The scenario of my question is like this.......
In my plant there is a machine which is also an asset.......when this asset was purchased by the company......there was no BOM attached to this. After some time, this machine came under breakdown & maintenance person removed one of its part say SHAFT. To reuse this shaft, it needs to be repaired by external agency. There is no other shaft available in the stores to use in this breakdown. Now as this shaft is not maintained in the store (neither as an asset nor as a material), then what will be the procedure to send this shaft to subcontractor.........Material Master for shaft can be created but what abt inventory stock.......
Regards,

Hi,
If there is any constraint for creating subasset
Create the material as only value updating
Create one more material as QTY.updating
Create subcon PO for non valuated material
Create stock for qty updating material
assign qty updating material as component
recv the value updating material
and post the repairs
and posting thru FB90
This is just a consideration i haven't tried this scenario please try
Hope this will help
BR
Diwakar

GR of subcontracting items without issuing components

Hi all
I am facing a problem regarding subcontracting. In a PO of material X (item category L (subcontracting)) of required quantity 10, a component Y quantity 50 to make X is to be given to the vendor. The problem I am facing is that I am able to post GR of all material X without issuing any Y to the vendor. I should not be able to do this until all the component quantity (50) has been issued to the vendor. If I issue 5 Y then I should only be able to receive 1 X at max or not even 1 X. When I issue some quantity of Y it stays in subcontracting stock as seen by transaction ME2O.
How to settle this stock with subcontractor and what should be done to not be able to MIGO all 10 X until 50 Y has been issued to vendor or or to be able to do it proportionally ?
Also fine tune my concepts in this regard.
Thnx

Yes receiving is a physical activity not a computer activity but what I want to say is that even if X is physically received, the user should not be able to MIGO it if the components issued (subcontractor stock) is not settled. When I MIGO the received items and enter 0 quantity for the issued component the system lets it be. Instead the system should issue an error implying that all components have not been issued to vendor, so you can not receive X until you have issued all Y.
Try to understand my point. I know physically the vendor will send the product only when he has received all components from us but on the system, I am able to receive all X without even issuing a single Y. This is important for me because if some receiver does this without settling the subcontractor stock, it will become an odd case because the movement type 543 which does this component settling is not selectable. It is automatic for subcontracting component line item. Kindly test this scenario on your system. Make a subcontracting PO, do not issue a single component to vendor and then MIGO this PO it with 0 component quantity. I am able to post the GR which i should not be able to because the shipper has not issued a component and the receiver is able to receive on the system. I just want the system to not receive until all the components have been shipped.

Component Qty in PO for Subcontracting is greater than available in stock

Dear Gurus,
i have an issue regarding Subcontracting. When i create a Purchase Order, i use Item Category L. In the Compoenent i specify the material and the Requirement Quantity. Req Qty which i specify in PO is greater than the Qty available in Stock.
How do i restrict the user to enter only the Quantity that is available in Stock for the Component provided to the Vendor.
Thanks,
Johi.

the next MRP run will create a requisition or planned order to get more quantity for the component., if you are short of material.
do you just plan to produce as much as you have components for, or do you plan to satisfy a customers need?

A subcontracting Scenario

Hi ,
In subcontarcting PO scenario please explain me the following.
I am sending x kg of material A to SC Vendor .
I am expecting y kg of Material B from SC vendor.
By product in the procedure is C.
I have maintained BOM as A material to be send A, finished assebly is B and byproducts C in cs01.
Steps Involved are
1. I sent x KG to SC Vendor . ( Explain how to issue goods to SC vendor with Movement type involved.)
2. Found that actual consumption was less than expected in BOM, So i want reverse those extra parts i sent to SC vendor.( How to reverse them and using which Movement type)
3. After completion of process i want to do GR for the Finished product XX.(How to do GR and Movement type envolved)
4.In last stage i want to recieve the by-products from the vendor.( Movement type)
5 Scrap generated in process to be recieved in companies own stock( Movement type)
5. What are various excise document which are involved if vendor sends me the finished product within subcontracting period.( 180 days)
6. What is the " Reconcillation the SC challan ? Meaning of reconcillation?
Edited by: Shreya Sinha on Dec 29, 2007 12:30 PM

HI All,
Can anybody help me regarding subcontracting. Any help would be much appreciated.
Talking about subcontracting, right now we are facing some issues.We have right now what we call dismantle subcontracting,
Scenario 1:
Normally we send material A,B,C to vendor 1 for subcontract and receive material D.now on vice versa, we want to send material A, to Vendor 1 to receive material B,C and D.
while Material B,C,D will remain in vendor site after dismantle process is done.
I know, i can input one of the subcomponent say : A in PO as a parent component then put rest of others as a subcomponent with addition negative quantity for material D.
but the problem is , a lot of subcomponent for dismantle is involved and the customer is minded if they have to put a lot of subcomponent every time they create PO(while this PO subcontract may vary every time).Any other way for resolved this objection.
thank you,
Regards,
Daniel Tan

Subcontract Service PO Help

Dear all,
I have doubts in creating subcontract service PO. Here is my scenario. I have a project going on which i hire subcontractors to perform the planned activities. Thus, i created on Service Purchase Order in ME21N and listed the activities performed.
1) I need to make an advance payment of 10%. How do i make an entry in SES to allow accounts make the advance payment?
2) Sometimes, there will be partial payments. And after the project is completed, there may be late penalty for example 5%. But after doing SES for the partial payments, i am not able to modify the PO pricing conditions since it has already done SES. How do i go about this problem?
Appreciate if anyone could help.
Thanks

Hi,
you can save invoices before GR documents when you set up your system according to the information from knowledge base article 1496165.
Regarding subcontracting in service PO item, please refer to note note 634395, question 1.
Regards,
Edit

Plant to plant subcontracting against sales order

hi
my scenario is like this
two plants A and B under one company code, its repair scenario in this sales order come in plant b ,in this repairing we have 5 process out of which one process has to be carried out in plant 1,so for that we will do subcontracting against that sales order with plant b. so how to handle subcontracting with plant a against sales order.
Edited by: AMIT RANE on Mar 4, 2009 7:55 AM

Purpose: - Subcontracting is also possible in conjunction with sales order The subcontracting orders are account-assigned to a slaes order . Thus, the components are not transferred (using a transfer posting) to the "stock of material provided to vendor" but are directly withdrawn from the sales order stock the time of the goods receipt. The material manufactured is also posted to the SO
The cost of subcontracting is then debited to the SO.
Since the components are not transferred to the "stock of material provided to vendor", it is recommended that you use a transfer posting to transfer the provided components to a new storage location (for example, 9999). This enables you to obtain an overview of those stocks that are physically located at the subcontractor. This information is particularly important when you carry out a physical inventory of the Project stocks.
Features: -
Withdrawal from Stock of Mat. Provided for Project: -
For components that are managed in Project stock, you can define whether the components are to be withdrawn directly from each Project or from the stock of material provided to vendor. You manage this via the dependent requirements indicator for individual customer requirements and collective requirements (MARC-SBDKZ).
You can maintain this indicator in the following places:
In the MRP view of the material master record (MRP 4)
In the explosion types for the BOM item (in Customizing for Production in the step Basic Data -> Bill of Material -> Item Data -> Define explosion types)
Configuring the explosion types has priority over the configuration in Inventory Management.
If the indicator is set at Collective requirements only (2), the materials are withdrawn from the stock of material provided to vendor. If this indicator is set any other way, the system withdraws materials from Project stock.
Regarding Subcontracting Challan: -
Go to OMJJ, select the field "movement type" and press enter
Enter movement type "311" and double click on "Field selection (Enjoy)" under Dialog Structure on left side.
here "New Entries" and add field "LIFNR" (Vendor- plant as vendor )
Now in MIGO, at the time of transfer posting of components using movement type "311 E", specify the vendor code of the Subcontracting PO (i.e. Subcontractor)
Now create Subcontracting Challan in J1IF01 for material document of 311 E movement type.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0001", Movement Type "311 E" should be maintained.
Then do GR against PO and refer the Subcontracting Challan here.
And then do reconciliation in J1IFQ for the GR Document against Subcontracting Challan.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0002", Movement Type "543 E" should be maintained.
Follow the below mentioned process;
Process Steps: -
1. OX09 - Create Storage Location as "9999" for Subcontractor Location
2. MB1B - Do Transfer Posting of material from RM Warehouse to this Storage Location via movement type "311 E" (Instead of doing 541)
3. Now go to J1IF01 - here use material document of movement type "311 E" and create Subcontracting challan. (If required)
Prerequisite: - In SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > Here for Movement Type Group "0001" (For issues), maintain movement type "311 E" also along with 541.
Rest all; refer subcontracting challan during GR and then reconciliation and completion, etc... Will be same as usual.
Note: - At the time of GR, consume components from storage location "9999" (for 543 movement type)
regards
KI

Purchase Orders - Subcontracting wrong movement type 545

First of all this is not about asking a clarification of what is MVT 545 or MVT 543
I'm asking why the system is behaving in this way however there is no BOM for the material or even negative indicator
Dears ,
We are facing a problem regarding subcontracting purchase orders , as for the same Material & same Vendor , some times while we are receiving purchase orders the MVT 545 shows up instead of 543 , This happen automatically and we ca not change it , However for other purchase orders for the same Material & Vendor it shows up MVT 543 which is ok for us
We need to make sure that the MVT is 543 while we are reviving , So could you please clarify the reason of this system wrong behavior
Note : our purchase orders are a reference to a PM order
The problem is that we didn't create any BOM for this material , and the second thing that some POs for the same material work fine and posts with MVT 543 not with 545

Here is the pictures
Firstly Here is faulty PO components
and here is while trying to post GR , the MVT 545 shows automatically
Secondly Here is normal PO components
and here is while trying to post GR , the MVT 535 shows automatically which is normal for us

SD Subcontract Order

Hello Experts,
I have a question regarding Subcontract Process in SD, where our Customers give us Raw Materials for Production add on services.
I have created a Subcontract Quotation (QU) and Subcontract Sales Order (TU) for a Finished Material. Under MD04 I have this Plan Order created after MRP run. I have converted this Plan Order into Production Order. In the BOM for this Finished Good, we have the Raw Material Components supplied from the Customer.
Now the I have the question of how can I perform Goods Receipt for the Raw Materials provided from the Customer.
I have checked in the internet some create Purchase Requsition of Account Assignment Category "M - Ind. cust. w/0 KD-CO", set the Condition as 0 and receipt the Goods under MIGO. I would like to ask is this correct? If not can anybody help is solving how I can receipt the Customer Subcontract Raw Materials into the system.
Many Thanks

Hi,
Master data - Define customer as vendor and Vendor as customer
From MM side
Create separate storage location for subcontract material provided by customer
Receipt goods with or without reference to P.O
From SD side
Create sales order for finished goods >> Delivery
Kapil

Supply chain modeling of subcontraction process using SNP

Dear Experts,
I am in the phase of designing my supply chain business process in APO
We have two plants
Plant u2013 A (manufacturing )
Plant u2013 B (distribution center)
Subcontractors - for Plant A
Subcon-1
Subcon-2
Subcon-3
Subcon-4
Subcon-5
Subcon-6
Subcon-7
Demand planning /forecast is done on the basis of
Customer
Products
And Plant
When forecast is done in demand planning an send to SNP , system must give planned order on the basis of available capacity , low cost of production of the my subcontractor ,I believe I need to use SNP optimization
Does SNP Optimizer can serve my requirement
Also how do I need to define my subcontractor either as DC location or just a MRP area
Please do not hesitate to ask more details if you are not clear my requirement
Thanks & Regard
Raj

Hi Raju,
The Optimizer should serve your requirement as it considers the capacity constraints and can be used for finite planning. Regarding subcontracting location , you can map it as either a DC location or a Subcontractor location. Better way would be to map it as a subcontracting location. Mapping it as just MRP area would not serve as you want it to consider during the finite planning runs for optimizer.
Let me know if it helps
Regards
Gaurav Mathur

Subcontracting with MRP areas / Customer consigment

Dear all,
I'm currently looking for some information regarding subcontracting processes with MRP areas.
On the first hand I need a general overview how subcontracting purchase orders would be handled with MRP areas. In addition I'm really interested in the replenishment of the subcontractor stocks. On the other hand some facts about the customizing would be fine.
My second topic is consigment stocks at the customer. So I need similar information as for the MRP areas but regarding this customer consigment.
It would be really great if someone has some literature recommendations or official documentations about these issue.
Many thanks in advance!
Regards
Enrico

Hi Enrico,
Working with subcontracting and MRP area's gives you the option to plan the requirements for the subcontractor separately and you can then order the components separately. This functionality is used when working with scheduling agreements and direct deliveries to the subcontractor as there this is a requirement.
A second instance where one would use and MRP area with sucontracting is that when a material is used both by the subcontractor and it's also used directly in the plant production. The requirements for the subcontractor can be separately planned using an MRP area.
The following links may give you some more information regarding working with subcontracting and MRP area's
[MRP area|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/c4/106956ae8a11d1a6720000e83235d4/content.htm]
[Planning for Components to be Provided in Subcontracting|http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/c4/106956ae8a11d1a6720000e83235d4/frameset.htm]
Edited by: Peter Pallen on Jun 5, 2011 7:19 PM

Subcontracting with slaes order

hi i want to know
how can we do the subcontracting with sales order
i got a process using 311 e movemnt when i search on SDN
plz let me know if this process is correct how can i have subcon challan
Subcontracting scenario(Sale Order wise)
Subcontracting For Sales order.
Subcontract Account assigned PO
how can i create storage loc as vendor
plz help
regards
raj

Hi,
Subcontracting for Project Stock: -
Purpose: - Subcontracting is also possible in conjunction with Project stocks. The subcontracting orders are account-assigned to a Project. Thus, the components are not transferred (using a transfer posting) to the "stock of material provided to vendor" but are directly withdrawn from the Project stock the time of the goods receipt. The material manufactured is also posted to the Project stock.
The cost of subcontracting is then debited to the Project.
Since the components are not transferred to the "stock of material provided to vendor", it is recommended that you use a transfer posting to transfer the provided components to a new storage location (for example, 9999). This enables you to obtain an overview of those stocks that are physically located at the subcontractor. This information is particularly important when you carry out a physical inventory of the Project stocks.
Features: -
Withdrawal from Stock of Mat. Provided for Project: -
For components that are managed in Project stock, you can define whether the components are to be withdrawn directly from each Project or from the stock of material provided to vendor. You manage this via the dependent requirements indicator for individual customer requirements and collective requirements (MARC-SBDKZ).
You can maintain this indicator in the following places:
In the MRP view of the material master record (MRP 4)
In the explosion types for the BOM item (in Customizing for Production in the step Basic Data -> Bill of Material -> Item Data -> Define explosion types)
Configuring the explosion types has priority over the configuration in Inventory Management.
If the indicator is set at Collective requirements only (2), the materials are withdrawn from the stock of material provided to vendor. If this indicator is set any other way, the system withdraws materials from Project stock.
Regarding Subcontracting Challan: -
Go to OMJJ, select the field "movement type" and press enter
Enter movement type "311" and double click on "Field selection (Enjoy)" under Dialog Structure on left side.
here "New Entries" and add field "LIFNR" (Vendor)
Now in MIGO, at the time of transfer posting of components using movement type "311 Q", specify the vendor code of the Subcontracting PO (i.e. Subcontractor)
Now create Subcontracting Challan in J1IF01 for material document of 311 Q movement type.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0001", Movement Type "311 Q" should be maintained.
Then do GR against PO and refer the Subcontracting Challan here.
And then do reconciliation in J1IFQ for the GR Document against Subcontracting Challan.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0002", Movement Type "543 Q" should be maintained.
Follow the below mentioned process;
Process Steps: -
1. OX09 - Create Storage Location as "9999" for Subcontractor Location
2. MB1B - Do Transfer Posting of material from RM Warehouse to this Storage Location via movement type "311 Q" (Instead of doing 541)
3. Now go to J1IF01 - here use material document of movement type "311 Q" and create Subcontracting challan. (If required)
Prerequisite: - In SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > Here for Movement Type Group "0001" (For issues), maintain movement type "311 Q" also along with 541.
Rest all, refer subcontracting challan during GR and then reconciliation and completion, etc... will be same as usual.
Note: - At the time of GR, consume components from storage location "9999" (for 543 movement type)

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