Reinstalling OSX10.4 and Indesign looses MathType fonts
I have been using MathType to create formulas. First I copy from MathType into Illustrator, then proceed to copy from illustrator and paste into Indesign. This procedure has worked well, until I needed to reinstall my OS system. After reinstalling OS10.4, my Indesign docs have replaced some fonts with boxes. I have reinstalled CS3 and MathType 6.0 with no solution to this problem. I still get boxes for certain fonts (like MT extra). I do not know how to fix this, any light on this problem would be greatly appreciated. I have several hundred pages of documents that have been affected in this bad way.
Yes, you just drag them where you want them. But from your described work path, you actually want the fonts to be available in MathType, in Illustrator, AND in Indesign, so I wouldn't put them in the Indesign folder -- that makes them only available to Indesign. MathType is a real bear for fonts, because it's version of Symbol and Adobe's version of Symbol don't get along, which has been a pain-in-the-tush for me. I suspect the root cause is that MathType mostly is interested in working smoothly with Microsoft Word, and Indesign is a lesser concern, and you know Microsoft is going to use their own proprietary version of the Symbol font. (The problem characters are the large "fences" for putting brackets and parens around equations, and some unusual Greek characters like the upside-down capital Delta. These often show up onscreen but don't print.)
What I would do is after you reinstall OSX 10.4, reinstall the MathType fonts, particularly Symbol and MT Extra. Be aware that the CS4 applications keep their own version of Symbol that they rely on hidden in an Adobe folder, and I've found that it you remove it and replace it with the MathType one, horrible things can happen.
For a font manager, I use FontExplorer from Linotype, which is a freebie and works very well. It doesn't "auto-activate" fonts in CS4, but you do get a list of missing fonts when you open a document, and you can toggle over to Font Explorer and open them. If you've created font groups by project, you can turn them on with one click. When you return to your CS4 app, it'll work.
FontExplorer also has several nice utilities -- one that strips the System folder of all fonts not installed by OSX, so you can move spurious fonts from Microsoft and various other programs to Font Explorer's folders, which makes it easy to turn them off when you don't want them, and keep your font menus from being three miles long. And another utility that deletes font "caches" in applications, which you'll want to do after you've messed about with the various forms of Symbol and MT Extra, so that your CS4 applications don't remember a version of the font that's no longer there.
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Interval Since Last Report: 1970 sec
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Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 5
Anonymous UUID: 98BE5344-B82C-4EFA-91BD-F2B2DB517C9E
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
__TEXT 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [ 16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
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8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096de thread_start + 34
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2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096fe start_wqthread + 30
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4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92f5737d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fb967f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x0005a6f1 0x20000 + 239345
7 AdobeACE 0x0005a0ed 0x20000 + 237805
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fba5e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b705ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096de thread_start + 34
Thread 7:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b88583e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b709e78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b6b182a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.adobe.amt.services 0x03f83126 C_AMTUISwitchSuppressUpdates + 16768
4 com.adobe.amt.services 0x03f7bdb0 C_EULA_SetState + 2164
5 com.adobe.amt.services 0x03f8318c C_AMTUISwitchSuppressUpdates + 16870
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b705ed9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096de thread_start + 34
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x0a521ea4 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x0000000c
edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbfffd7a8 esp: 0xbfffd620
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0xac345630 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x00000000
Logical CPU: 1
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I did create a new user account (admin level) and InDesign works like a charm.
When I went back to the other account, plug-ins gone, I deleted the prefs and caches, restarted and still everything is crashing as before.
At least I am working on one account and I will contiue to troubleshoot on the other account. And at some point either the new account will crash or the old account will work and I will go from there.
Thanks for the info about Mac remembering info. Always trying to be helpful these Macs.
And thanks for getting at least into a workable space!!! I am supremely grateful! -
I am using MathType with Adobe InDesign in Mac computers (OS X 10.4.11 and Leopard OSX) . After creating an equation in MathType and copying to the clipboard I paste it in an InDesign CS3 file. When pasting the equation, which was written using an appropiate font (Time, Book Antiqua, or New Century Schoolbook, etc), the fonts change to Arial, independently of the fonts used in MathType. This does not happen when pasting the equations in Word. Using the Save As command in MathType and the Place command in InDesign, which I don´nt want to use, solves the problem. Does someone knows why this happens and how to cope with this problem? Thanks.
Thanks Peter. In fact, I had the preference for clipboard in InDesign set to "text only". However, changing it to include all the information (formatting, etc) did not resolve the problem. I continue getting the Arial font, whenever I paste an equation from MathType. I should mention that I am using a Spanish versión of InDesign CS3 and don´t know if this is causing troubles. I Hope to find an answer to this question in the near future.
The reason I don´t want to use "Save as" in MathType and the "Place" command in InDesign is that when a variable or an equation occurs several times in a given chapter of the Calculus book I am writing, InDesign creates a link each time I use it, even when "Copy" and "Paste" are used within this last application. In other words, once I "Place" an expressión or a symbol (for example the symbol for irrational numbers) from MathType and I use the same symbol or expression in the InDesign chapter or page, I get several links on the link palette. As a result, I have a lot of links, all of them referred to the same expression, symbol or variable. May be this answers what FivePicaPica says.
As I know, by the way, Macs and MathType are not limited to only two fonts. In fact, any of the system fonts can be used and "copy and paste" with Word. The problem arises when cpying and pasting from MathType to InDesign.
Thanks again
Jupiter -
Illustrator CS5 (and Indesign) quits unexpectedly...
Downloaded the CS5 premium. I'm having trouble with Illustrator (and Indesign)
Whenever I try to load Illustrator, the application quits when I'm at the startup panel, it doesn't get past 'updating font menu 30%'
Same with Indesign when I try to open 'new file' it quits.
Photoshop has showed no problems so far and seems to work just fine.
I have tried uninstall and reinstall. I've get the same results.
Does anyone know what's causing this?Hi,
You can try this solution.
1. To solve this issue you need to create a new Admin account for your MAC.
2. Log-in to your new Admin account launch the software.
3. Close the software, navigate to MAC HD > Users > New Admin( What ever name you have given it) > Library > Preferences.
4. You will find the Adobe Illustrator CS5 setting folder, copy the folder to your MAC HD.
5. Log-in to your old account and replace the Adobe Illustrator CS5 setting from the same location with the New Admin account's folder which you have copied to your MAC HD.
6. Launch the software to check if it works.
For InDesign CS5.
1. To solve this issue you need to create a new Admin account for your MAC.
2. Log-in to your new Admin account launch the software.
3. Close the software, navigate to MAC HD > Users > New Admin( What ever name you have given it) > Library > Preferences.
4. You will find the Adobe InDesign CS5 folder, copy the folder to your MAC HD.
5. Log-in to your old account and replace the Adobe InDesign CS5 from the same location with the New Admin account's folder which you have copied to your MAC HD.
6. Launch the software to check if it works.
Then you can delete the new Admin account.
Please do reply.
Hope it works.
Good Luck
SameeR
Message was edited by: Sameer A -
CS3 Illustrator and Indesign problems
I am still using CS3 and have recently reinstalled (uninstalled from old comp) onto a new computer with double the capacity - now 8GB 64 bit OS Wind 7 Prof. Since it has been on the new computer both Illustrator and Indesign close down on opening. Indesign I haven't been able to use successfully, but I am using Illustrator, slowly and patiently. The message on Indesign is basically the same each time, 'No virtual memory, free up memory' or similar. Illustrator opens asking to relink/replace all images & graphic, but closes down each time I try to relink through this prompt. What I do is 'ignore' and then manually relink. This seems to work for awhile, then goes into 'Illustrator Not Responding' will either freeze or close down, either way I loose what I have just done.
What can the problem be, apart from it being CS3, no use saying I need to upgrade, because the company will not do that. Do I need to download a patch or update etc. Help, getting a little impatient with it all.
Cheers
DonnaShort answer: CS3 is not tested and not certified to run on Win 7. Therefore, at the riosk of sounding rude, as far as Adobe is concerned, your problems are your own. There are no patches or magic buttons to push. All you can hope is to maximize compatibility by turning off UAC, using compatibility mode for Win XP, running with admin privileges and so on. Talk to your IT department/ person. If you can provide exact system info and the crash details, we may be able to advise further.
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