Rejection in results recording
I have created a sampling scheme lot size=100, sample=10, c1=2 and d1=8 for a raw material
Now when i do results recording for 100 nos(sample=10)
defects=9
now in this case, when defects is 9, then as per sampling scheme , the lot should be rejected. But system is allowing to accept the lot. Same is the case with Usage decision.
Can anyone help with this
hi,
QDH1- dictate u the quality level
so first check ur Valuation type and what sampling schemes u r using with valuation type .
Regards
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Result recording for quantitative inspection characteristic
Team
Greetings!
Please find the following requirement.
We are using quantitative characteristics inspection.
Inspection lots are created automatically and the sample size for each characteristics are determined based on the sampling proceedure.
when we do result recording for a characteristic, say the sample size is 5, even if any one of the sample does not fall under the limit, we need the characteristic to be rejected.
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While results recording for every quantitative characteristic I am getting the options as Accepted / Rejected / No Valuation / Failed. I want the system to accept the numeric values. I tried to change the valuation mode in sample procedure, but no use.
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Helo Gurus,
I done result recording as rejected for perticuler operation , then also the operation is going to confirm in co11n, actually it should not confirm know.
What is actual process for that in QM? After rejection logically the operation should again done by the production deparment, that means....., please guide me, & provide the steps for the same.
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Keerthi is absolutely right. These scenarios has to be mapped with rework process. in standard QM there are no much control available please find some of the options you can do
1) Once you find that the material is rejected either you can say in the pop up screen for confirmation that is no confirmation, or make use of the rework process. You will have to use user exits to have a better control on the rework process.
2) Make your setting in such a way that only after production person confirms the rework order then only rejected material should be allowed to confirm in the next operation.
3) You can make use of this user exit to deal with all kind of controls in CONFPP05
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Result Recording is done and saved for a particular lot and result is accepted and i did UD for that and accepted as well as i posted to un-restricted stock with Acceptance and saved.
Now my client want to chance the result and reject it and post it to blocked stock again do UD.
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siddharth shankerHi,
You have to explain your client the process and its pros and cons, once you give UD and post the stock then how will that be canceled. Keeping apart SAP, in actual domain practice also when you accept the lot you can't reject it on same challan, you have to so separate process.
Here best way is to assign 08 Insp type to that material and create the lot using 322 movement type (MB1B) and again reinspect and post it to block and send back to vendor. This is only if you need to record results again, otherwise you can directly post from unrestricted to Block stock using movement type 344 i.e. from unrestricted to block then purchase person will send it back to Vendor. You can raise notification to keep record of this movement.
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May I know what is wrong?
Can it be the parameter values for the three parameter ID are blank in my SU3? If so, what value I should enter for these three param ID? If not whatu2019s going wrong?
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YYHi Gajesh,
For some reason, it doesnu2019t work.
I think I will tell my guys to perform manually pressing the Lock icon button to force it to valuate and also become status 5, since this the two valuation checkboxes, i.e. accept and reject checkbox is either ticked correctly according to the sampling plan setup in the sampling schema.
Further, I donu2019t see why this extra manual step is so difficult for my worker.
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Default defect class during results recording
Hi all,
In the inspection plan I have maintained target value 20, lower limit 19 and upper limit 21 for one MIC which has single recording. When I do results recording for the MIC, I entered value 18, 20, 20, 20, 21, 18 was rejected automatically with a defect class Major defect A. Where is the default defect class from? If I want to enter a different one, how to change it?
The only place I can imagine is the configuration of Catalog 9 Defect Class in which defect class is assigned to each Code, but in my case no Code was selected.
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It seems that you have entered any thing so system will consider it as "0" decimal places hence rounding off takes place.
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Formula Calculation while result recording
While result recording for any Characteristic, the system should calculate some formula to accept or Reject the characteristic.
Eg. Let me take the characteristic as Carbon.
Upper limit 0.100
Lower limit 0.000
My sample size is 3
While result recording I entered the value as
1 0.055
2 0.059
3 0.062
System should calculate the below formulas & the values are in between the tolerance then that should accept or reject the characteristic
X+ H*R
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R Range (Minimum Maximum)
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Edited by: srinivasan Lakshmanana on Jan 3, 2008 7:11 AMplease go through the link below, which wil give some idea.
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Accept tab not activated for characteristics in result recording screen
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'Accept and Reject tab' is active only for few characteristics in result recording screen.After entering all the inspection data's system is manually valuating each MIC.
Pls. help me on how to activate the 'Accept and Reject tab' in results recording.
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ShriniDear Gajesh,
Thanks for your prompt reply.
I have created a SAMPLING PROCEDURE --> QUAL-DMS.
IN ASSIGNMENTS,
Sampling type --> 300 -- USE SAMPLING SCHEME
Valuation mode --> 1000 - ATTRIBUTIVE INSPECTION NON CONFIRMING UNITS
(I have selected the system defined Sampling Scheme-> 252 ISO 2859-1 / Level II / multiple)
Sampling scheme --> 252 ISO 2859-1 / Level II / multiple( SYSTEM DEFINED)
Determination rule 30 Use sampling scheme
Sampling scheme 252 ISO 2859-1 / Level II / multiple
Inspection severity --> 4 - Normal inspection
AQL value --> 15.000
THIS TABLE CONTAINS C1,D1;C2,D2;etc --> System Defined.
AS I have selected 252 - ISO 2859 -1/ Level II / multiple,
all values of the above sampling scheme must be copied.
It has calculated the sample size 40 for the sample lot 280 correctly
--> sample size is 8
5 samples are to be considered
5 x 8 = 40 samples --> System calculated the 40 samples correctly
SAMPLE LOT --> 280
SAMPLE SIZE --> 8
FIRST SAMPLE C1 --> 0 AND D1 --> 5;
SECOND SAMPLE C2 --> 3 AND D2 --> 8
THIRD SAMPLE C3--> 6 AND D3 --> 10
FOURTH SAMPLE C4 --> 9 AND D4 --> 12
FIFTH SAMPLE --> C5 12 AND D4 --> 13
I have not defined. I have selected the --> SAMPLING SCHEME 252,
I feel that all its value have to be copied.
Am I correct?
Please advice.
With Best Regards,
Raghu Sharma -
Dear all,
My requirement is such that if we enter a value in result recording and if it is rejected system should automatically propose a field where I will enter the value after testing it again.
We do not want any manual addition of same M,I.C
Thanks in advance
Regards
venkatA controlling char is best suitable for this type of requirement but
Just a suggestion ...........May be you can use the Inspection point concept .
for first inspection point you can enter results.Suppose you find that results needs to be recorded on same set of char/MIC's then you can create next inspection point & record another set of values.
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Sujit -
Relation between result recording and usage decision
Dear Gurus
While result recording for a lot, if any value comes less than or more than the limiting value the system is automatically valuating either rejected or accepted .. But this valuation is not getting reflected in the usage decision there I can give accepted code even though it is rejected in RR. If any expert can tell me how to configure and relate RR with UD
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Sandip SarkarHi
Sandip
As per SAP std there is no such a relation betweenRR & UD
but you can keep acheck that Result are recorded & what is valuation.
Use User Exit QEVA0010 UD: Usage decision check Logic will be check whether RR is done & all the char have status 5.
that means all char are valutated.Then Build a logic that as per acceeptence or rejection of char UD code must be get selected.
Suppose all char are rejected & you are taking UD as Accepted(A) then System should through Msg reading same.
I hope this will add some value.
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Sujit
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