Relay or Remote?

Hardware: Airport Extreme (as base station) at 2nd Floor, Airport Express at 1st Floor, Airport Express at 3rd Floor.
How to set up the Airport Express (as remote or relay)?
Am I right to set both Airport Express as relay? It works but not fully utilize the hardware?
Thanks.

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Airport Express relay and remote no longer work

After upgrading to Snow Leopard 10.6.4 from Tiger 10.4.11, my two Airport Express units (one relay, one remote) will no longer work. My Airport Extreme Base unit is fine, and our desktops and laptops still connect to the wireless. However, I want to be able to use the Express units to extend our wireless through the rest of the house and play iTunes, as I did before upgrading.
I have spent days trying to fix this, and I have probably worn out the hard reset by now. I have checked to see if I need any updates, but my screen assures my I am fine. The two express units are sometimes recognized by the Airport Utility, sometimes not. Usually when I try to do a manual set-up, I am told that an error occurred with the configuration for the Express unit.
Any advice/sympathy is appreciated. If I can't fix this, I guess I have two semi-expensive paperweights. Bear in mind, I love my Macs and Apple products in general, but right now, the whole thing is reminding me of Dell ****.

Any advice out there? I've even taken bypassed my main Extreme base to plug the ethernet connection directly into the Mac desktop to do software updates that might have been missed by going through the Extreme and wifi. While it did install one security update, it didn't affect the Express units.
I'm wondering about firmware. I have checked over and over for software updates, and my system assures me that everything is up to date. However, I'm concerned that somehow I'm missing a firmware update. My Airport Utility tells me my Extreme is running on Version 5.7, and on the few times one of the Express units shows up, it shows as running Version 6.#.
Do I need to manually install a firmware update, and if so, how? I terrified that I will mess up the ONE wifi unit that is functioning.
Ironically, my Extreme base is the oldest in my batch-both of the Express units are newer than it.

Incoming Relays and Remote IP

Hi Everyone,
First off, I want to mention what a great community you have here. We've had our appliance for a month now, and all the configuration questions we had so far were easily found in this forum. With that said, I was wondering if someone can assist us with understanding how Content Filters work on an Incoming Relay.
Currently we have 2 filters configured on our IronPort. The first filter is a single condition that will drop messages based on SBRS being <= 4.0. This works fine with us as we are dropping connections when they are received by the ironport, and this filter just basically drops emails where the CASE filter determine that there was no spam found.
Our second filter is the one we are having trouble with. We want our second filter to put emails in the Ironport Spam Quarantine when the SBRS score is between -4.0 and 1.0, and ONLY if the email has been received by the incoming relay. Currently our filter looks like this using the "only when all conditions are met" test case:
Condition:
1) When the remote-ip is our internal relay (we only have one)
2) When the SBRS score is <= -1.0
3) When the SBRS score is > -4.0
Action:
Insert header X-Ironport-Quarantine value Quarantine.
This filter does not appear to be working for us, and I assume its because when the email is parsed by the incoming relay, the "remote-ip" in our condition testing no longer takes the form of our incoming relay, but ip address it parsed from the header. Can someone confirm if my assumption is correct, and recommend a possible solution for us?
Thanks!

I would probably implement this with a message filter which is entered from the command line. The good thing with message filters is that it's:
1. more powerful and allows you to do more advanced IF conditions
2. same actions as the content filters were are created mostly from the GUI interace.
3. has pretty much the same functionality as the content filters plus more.
Here are the steps that you should need.
1. Replace the IP of "138.88.33.191" with the IP of the incoming relay. If there are multiple ip addresses for the incoming relay then use this:
remote-ip == '(138.88.33.191|138.88.33.192|138.88.33.193)'
2. Use the following message filter.
Remember, replace the IP that I used in the sample below with the real IP of the incoming relay.
Quarantine_suspect_sendergroup_emails:
if ( remote-ip == '138.88.33.191' ) AND ( reputation > -4.1 ) AND ( reputation < -0.9 )
insert-header('X-Ironport-Quarantine','1');
3. Enter the above message filter into the command line using the kb article below. Once the changes are commited, go to "System Administration > Trace" on the web interface and test it out.
4. Also, the above message filter would replace the content filter so you don't need that anymore.
Also, email pipeline wise, the message filters occur before the workqueue processing. Workqueue is basically anti-spam, anti-virus, content filters.
Let me know if you have any questions or getting different results than expected.
KB articles that may be useful:
1. How do I add a new message filter to my IronPort Appliance?
http://tinyurl.com/mg8kp
Hi Everyone,
First off, I want to mention what a great community you have here. We've had our appliance for a month now, and all the configuration questions we had so far were easily found in this forum. With that said, I was wondering if someone can assist us with understanding how Content Filters work on an Incoming Relay.
Currently we have 2 filters configured on our IronPort. The first filter is a single condition that will drop messages based on SBRS being <= 4.0. This works fine with us as we are dropping connections when they are received by the ironport, and this filter just basically drops emails where the CASE filter determine that there was no spam found.
Our second filter is the one we are having trouble with. We want our second filter to put emails in the Ironport Spam Quarantine when the SBRS score is between -4.0 and 1.0, and ONLY if the email has been received by the incoming relay. Currently our filter looks like this using the "only when all conditions are met" test case:
Condition:
1) When the remote-ip is our internal relay (we only have one)
2) When the SBRS score is <1> -4.0
Action:
Insert header X-Ironport-Quarantine value Quarantine.
This filter does not appear to be working for us, and I assume its because when the email is parsed by the incoming relay, the "remote-ip" in our condition testing no longer takes the form of our incoming relay, but ip address it parsed from the header. Can someone confirm if my assumption is correct, and recommend a possible solution for us?
Thanks!

Relay or Remote WDS

Hi,
I am extending my AEBS using an AX, should I set the AX as a relay or remote station. I want to extend the connection so other users on my network can get a better signal.

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Relay vs Remote and Extending Airpot

OK I got an airport extreme base station - I want to extend the network to my backyard so I am going to buy an airport express.
Physically speaking, my extreme base station is in the front room, which has good range to the back porch, just not beyond my back porch where my yard is.
So I was planning on putting the airport express on my back porch.
What I'm unclear about is if I set this express as a remote base station, it will automatically connect to my main base station correct, since it would be within range of the main station, right? So I do NOT need a relay, meaning I don't need to buy 2 airport expresses? Correct or am I wrong here?

Correct.
You set the Extreme to "allow this network to be extended"...
and then the Express to "Extend a wirelss network".
See this Apple article:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4259

Difference between relay and remote?

I have (4) Airport Expresses connected via WDS to an Airport Extreme Base Station. What's the difference between setting up an Airport Express as a remote vs a relay? Thanks!

Since you have all "n" AirPorts, I suggest (for better performance) that you take advantage of this model's "extend a network" feature instead of attempting a 802.11g WDS configuration. If you don't get the coverage at the 2nd floor guest room that you are looking for, we can reconfigure for the WDS.
With the "extend" method, you can add additional "n" AirPorts to the main in a "star" pattern for coverage, but you would not be able to daisy-chain them like in the 802.11g WDS where you use relays & remotes.
If this sounds like it's worth a try, the following is the basic setup steps:
o If practical, place the base stations in near proximity to each other during the setup phase. Once done, move them to their desired locations.
o Open AirPort Utility and select the base station that will connect to the Internet.
o Choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then click Wireless.
o Choose “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then select the “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox.
o Next, select the base station that will extend this network, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open its configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Choose “Extend a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then choose the network you want to extend from the Network Name pop-up menu.
o Enter the base station network and base station password is necessary.
o Click Update to update the base station with new network settings.
(ref: Page 46 of "Designing AirPort Networks Using AirPort Utility.)

Relay vs Remote Base Station

I have setup a WDS network with my airport express units.
What is the difference between a relay station and a remote base station in a WDS network?
Thanks
Mike

Yes, so lets say I have two aiport express. One of them is in my bedroom and it gets good reception from my router. And the second one is in lets say my den, and it doesn't get so good reception from my router, but it is close to my bedroom... Would I have both the bedroom and den airport express as REMOTE, or would i put the bedroom one as a RELAY and the den as a REMOTE, or the other way around. I have a WDS network setup.. or does it matter?
Thanks

Email Stuck - SMTP Relay To Remote Active Directory Site 451 4.4.0 Primary target IP address responded with: ""421 4.4.2 Connection dropped due to SocketError

hi All,
I have 2 HT, located different AD Site. HT1 located in HO Site, and HT2 located in Branch Site.
User from HO site can send email to branch site, but user from branch site cannot send email to HO site.
I found this error on Queue Viewer Console:
451 4.4.0 Primary target IP address responded with: ""421 4.4.2 Connection dropped due to SocketError."" Attempted failover to alternate host, but that did not succeed. Either there are no alternate hosts, or delivery failed
to all alternate hosts
disable all receive connector except default connector still no luck. Telnet SMTP to HT1 from HT2 is working fine.
Event Viewer warning, event ID: 2006.
Send connector Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector: the connection to IPHT1:25 was disconnected by the remote server.
Send SMTP Log:
2014-03-10T07:11:50.624Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495BDE,19,IPHT2:57231,IPHT1:25,-,,Remote
2014-03-10T07:21:50.716Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,0,,IPHT1:25,*,,attempting to connect
2014-03-10T07:21:50.763Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,1,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,+,,
2014-03-10T07:21:50.825Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,2,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,"220 IPHT1.jakarta.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:21:50 +0700",
2014-03-10T07:21:50.825Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,3,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,>,EHLO IPHT2.jakarta.com,
2014-03-10T07:21:50.872Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,4,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-IPHT1.jakarta.com Hello [IPHT2],
2014-03-10T07:21:50.872Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,5,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-SIZE 104857600,
2014-03-10T07:21:50.872Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,6,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-DSN,
2014-03-10T07:21:50.872Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,7,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES,
2014-03-10T07:21:50.872Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,8,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-STARTTLS,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,9,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-X-ANONYMOUSTLS,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,10,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-AUTH NTLM,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,11,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-X-EXPS GSSAPI NTLM,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,12,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-8BITMIME,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,13,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-BINARYMIME,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,14,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-XEXCH50,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,15,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250-XRDST,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,16,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,250 XSHADOW,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.091Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,17,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,>,X-ANONYMOUSTLS,
2014-03-10T07:21:51.122Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,18,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,<,220 2.0.0 SMTP server ready,
2014-03-10T07:26:51.590Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C06,19,IPHT2:15741,IPHT1:25,-,,Remote
2014-03-10T07:26:51.590Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C0E,0,,IPHT1:25,*,,attempting to connect
2014-03-10T07:26:51.636Z,Intra-Organization SMTP Send Connector,08D109CB5D495C0E,1,IPHT2:15794,IPHT1:25,+,,
anyone have a clue?
thanks.
Endrik
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Hi Niko,
I already disable IPv6 and IPv4 checksum offloading, also check the MTU on each HT but still no luck.
I found the following error on the Netmon:
i already tls on receive connector, enable anonymous authentication, still no luck.
any idea?
thanks.
Endrik
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WDS Set up - Help Needed! Airport Extreme with one Relay and one remote

Hi Guys,
I need a bit of help. I am feeling quite stupid and frustrated. I am having some difficulty with setting up a WDS network with:
Base station: Airport extreme (current version)
Relay: Airport Express (current version)
Remote: Airport Express (current version)
I start by cold resetting the three units. The Base station is connected via Ethernet. The setup I wish to get going is a simple base - relay - remote.
I go through the utility manager and set up the base station, first as "create a wireless network" enter the ISP details etc etc. Its green light. Everything is fine. Then manually configure the Base Station. Hold down option key hit Participate in a WDS. I then select main enter + and add the Mac Id's for the intended Relay unit and Remote Unit (12 character and numeric string). At this stage I am only adding the intended Relay unit and Remote units MAC number.
Question 1: Do I need to add the base unit's MAC number itself under: WDS Remotes? even I am setting it up as Main?
I am careful to note the security settings and the the Wireless Network name to match these in the relay and remote set up. Under the Wireless tab I leave the Radio Mode: as Automatic (802.11a/n - 802.11b/g/n). I make sure the base has "allow this network to be extended" ticked. Under Radio Channel selection I edit it to reference channel 1 for 2.4Ghz (5 Ghz leave as Auto). I am careful when setting up the Relay and remote to match the Radio Channel. (Although I tired many channels as I thought maybe interference was a factor and denying the fact its obviously my set up skills as a factor).
Question 2: Do you need to disable Guest networks? I would think it does not matter as I have tired turning it off and has not made any difference.
Under Access Control I leave as default, Not enabled.
Next I hit update and and error message comes up. WDS Error as it can not find other units. Ok fine as the relay and remote are not yet set up. So I ignore and can get to the stage where the base unit is working and green light with an internet connection.
I then proceed to set up the Relay unit. Doing the same steps as above with a couple of differences being I add the MAC numbers and select the WDS Mode (Relay for Relay and Remote for Remote. I add the Main base station (i.e Airpot Extreme MAC No.) when prompted and then + the Remotes MAC number. The same for the Remote except I only need to add the base station's main no.
Question 3. Do I need to add the Relay's own MAC number to its own setup? This seems doubtful as with the base station but tired with and without for good measure with no success.
The 2.4Ghz channels are all set to 1. Radio mode set to Auto. Although even when I try to manually set them to all identical it doesn't seem t help.
Then the problems begin. The base unit is Green and the Relay and Remote say they are not connected to the internet. I assume since I have not seen a WDS Error message then the units are set up correctly or as I ignored it on the base unit. But when click unignore the error seems to work itself out.
Question 4. I need help to understand why I have no internet. The remote / relay says something about no IP number and I don't really understand what I should do? Do I need to go back the Airport Utility Manager and start messing about with the TCP/IP, DHCP, NAT ? The base is set up PPPoE and the relay and remote are set to Bridge.
It is really puzzling me why the relay and remote flash amber with error messages related to the IP number? I have tried turning off the base station and router and then on again but no joy.
Can anyone please enlighten me or give me a few ideas? I am doing something very obviously stupid and I guess the fix is something simple that I have overlooked.
I did spend the time and go through the threads and search online, So I am not trying to waste anyone's time I referenced the two links to get a second opinion:
http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/03/taming-an-airport-express-wds.html
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/settingup_an_airport_relay_with_airportexpress/
Any help much appreciated!

Versed wrote:
I need a bit of help.
Welcome to Apple's discussion groups.
My WDS experience is limited to "main" and "remote" configurations (no "relay"), so I'm not posting from direct experience, but below is what I think would work in your case.
I go through the utility manager and set up the base station, first as "create a wireless network" enter the ISP details etc etc. Its green light. Everything is fine. Then manually configure the Base Station. Hold down option key hit Participate in a WDS. I then select main enter + and add the Mac Id's for the intended Relay unit and Remote Unit
I don't think the "main" unit needs to be told about the "remote" unit, only about the "relay" unit.
Question 1: Do I need to add the base unit's MAC number itself under: WDS Remotes? even I am setting it up as Main?
You'd never enter the MAC address of a unit into its own configuration, if that's what you mean. I also don't think that you'd need to enter the MAC address of the main into the remote and conversely.
I am careful to note the security settings and the the Wireless Network name to match these in the relay and remote set up. Under the Wireless tab I leave the Radio Mode: as Automatic (802.11a/n - 802.11b/g/n).
Five things have to match in a WDS configuration: network name, encryption type, network password, band, and channel.
I make sure the base has "allow this network to be extended" ticked.
I don't think that's important for a WDS configuration.
Question 2: Do you need to disable Guest networks?
I wouldn't think that matters.
Under Access Control I leave as default, Not enabled.
That's fine.
WDS Error as it can not find other units. Ok fine as the relay and remote are not yet set up.
Right.
I then proceed to set up the Relay unit. Doing the same steps as above with a couple of differences being I add the MAC numbers and select the WDS Mode (Relay for Relay and Remote for Remote. I add the Main base station (i.e Airport Extreme MAC No.) when prompted and then + the Remotes MAC number. The same for the Remote except I only need to add the base station's main no.
I think this should be the MAC address of the relay station, not that of the main station.
Question 3. Do I need to add the Relay's own MAC number to its own setup?
No.

Connection from remote sites (Frame Relay WAN) to AS/400 dissapears

Hello,
We have the following problem appearing in our environment:
All connections from remote sites dissapears unexpected from AS/400. After 2-3 minutes remote users get normal connectivity again.
The environment is the the following:
Frame Relay/ATM WAN (Frame Relay on remote sites and ATM in datacenter) comes to Cisco 7204VXR router which connected to LAN switch with 10/100/1000 ports. AS/400 with Fast Ethernet interface also connected to the similar LAN switch. CEF is enabled on the router, IOS version 12.4.3a. We have ETHSTD *ALL parameter set on AS/400. Remote users uses TCP/IP and Telnet but there are a number of 5494 controllers wich uses SNA.
We got the problem for the first time after we enabled CEF on the router.
I suspect that the cause of problem is Ethernet frames of different standards due to ETHSTD *ALL, but can neither reproduce the problem nor understand why it behaves so.
Have anybody had similar problem?
I would be very thanksfull if somebody can help me to solve it.
Thank you in advance.
//Mikhail Galiulin

Hi Martin,
Cisco 7200 itself can access AS/400 as well as all other hosts in the same with AS/400 LAN. There is no any outage in communications which goes to another LAN segment via Netscreen firewall while the communication via Cisco is down. Only those hosts which connected via Cisco are experiencing the problem. I can not say where the traceroute from AS/400 stucks (there are other people who maintain the machine and they never could catch the exact moment of outage).
To turn off CEF I treat as the last option actually and unfortunatelly there is no guarantee that software upgrade will help (we have 12.4.3a now).
So first of all I'm trying to understan WHY it happens because I can not see any systematics in the problem appearance. It can happen 3 times under 2 days and then dissapear for 1-2 months...
//Mikhail Galiulin

Remote or Relay

I did RTFM and I'm still not clear. Have an Airport Express being used as a base station. works fine. in-laws live in physically adjacent house. had cat5e strung from their place to mine, but couldn't string directly to closet where switch is.
So, two wired connections coming into switch and one wired connection out to a second Airport Express, thinking I could just hop over to the Base Station (the other Express) a few feet away. Under this scenario, is the 2nd Express acting as a remote or a relay? And not clear how it and the "base station" need to be configured to allow this.
Do I need to put in the Mac address of each on the other one so that 2nd knows who base is and 1st one "allows" 2nd to talk to it?
Thanks (my hair is too short to pull out, but I'm trying)

I'm not sure I understand the physical connections in your scenario.
The terms "relay" and "remote" only apply when using WDS to wirelessly connect the base stations. If you are using Ethernet to connect them, these terms do not apply.
A relay allows you to connect another base station to it. For example:
main<-> relay<-> remote
A remote does not allow other base stations to connect to it.
If they are connected via Ethernet, the base stations do not really talk to each other. Data packets flow between them as the clients need, but the base stations aren't passing control or status information back and forth.
If they are connected via Ethernet, the one not connected to the internet directly should be configured to act as a bridge (not sharing a single IP address).

Remote base station versus relay base station

Okay, I give up. What is the difference between a remote and a relay? Can I daisy chain relay base stations? Will remote base stations act as "relays"? Are there any tricks to setting up the relay stations (remotes seem completely straightforward)? What are the positives and negatives of each?
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.7)

It seems like the distinction is more important if you want a wired connection to the station. If you're just tring to create a robust wireless network, can you do many remotes but just one relay? It seems like relay would be the way to go if there was no limitation on how many.

Can Airport Extreme be set as remote in a WDS?

I have set a WDS with an Airport Extreme set as main (n) and two Airport Express set as a relay (g) and a remote(n). I just got a Time Capsule wich I will set as my new main. Now I would like to have my old Airport Extreme set as a relay or remote... is that possible???
I'll appeciate any help

Now I would like to have my old Airport Extreme set as a relay or remote... is that possible???
Yes. The AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) can perform as either a main, relay, or remote base station in a WDS.

AirPort Express as Relay Station?

I have read the article at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107454, but I am still a little confused.
- Can I use the Express as a relay station or can only Extremes be used as such?
- If so, are there certain models that can or can't? (My Express is a couple of years old)
- Can an Express be a relay station and at the same time be connected to my sound system? (to play from iTunes)

Can I use the Express as a relay station or can only Extremes be used as such?
Yes, the AirPort Express Base Stations can be configured as a relay base station in a WDS.
If so, are there certain models that can or can't? (My Express is a couple of years old)
Both the original 802.11b/g version and the new 802.11n version of the AirPort Express Base Station support configuration as either a main, relay, or remote base station in a WDS.
Can an Express be a relay station and at the same time be connected to my sound system?
Yes.

Airport Extreme Base station + Relay Inquiry

My Airport Express Base station died on me so I replaced it with an Airport Extreme. I immediately noticed the lack of wds support and a simplified network setup option.
So I updated all my other relay stations to the newer network(Airport Express btw).
I found that the Ethernet connections weren't functioning anymore. Why?
To make it clear, I'm trying to connect a non-wireless computer to my wireless network through a relay station.
Is this still doable?

Yep! I can understand that!
Here are the basic setup steps for creating a WDS with a mixed (802.11n/g) base stations:
AEBSn - WDS Setup
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete. Also, jot down the AirPort IDs (MAC addresses) for each of the base stations to be used in the WDS. The AirPort ID and is printed on the label on the bottom/side of the base station.)
Main Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the main base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (located in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the main base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base
Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window.
o Enter the base station password if necessary. If the base station is using the
default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Click Wireless in the toolbar, and then choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Select the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox if you want client computer to connect to this base station.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the AirPort ID of the base station you want to connect to this base station.
o Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
Remote Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as a remote base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the remote base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Enter the base station password, if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
o Enter the AirPort ID of the main base station in the WDS Main field.
o Click Update to transfer the settings to the base station.
Relay Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar to join the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the relay base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the relay base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS relay” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Enter the AirPort ID of the main base station in the Main AirPort ID field.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the AirPort ID of the remote base station this relay base station will connect to.
o Click Update to transfer the new WDS settings to the relay and remote base stations.
(ref: Pages 42-46 of "Designing AirPort Networks.)

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