Remote Client take 60 - 90 Seconds to get logon window

I posted this earlier on the Tiger Server section but got no replies. Hopefully someone here has an idea?
We have a 10.4.11 server running AFP and multiple other services. About 25 users connect to the AFP sharepoints via the internal network and the login window appears immediately. Another 25 users connect through a hardware VPN from another office and their login screen appears immediately as well. We have another set of 25 users who connect directly over the internet, and only recently, it is taking 60 - 90 seconds for the logon window to appear. Once it does appear, the connection runs at normal speed.
It makes no difference whether the address is specified as FQDN or IP address. I've tried turning off Bonjour, and adding the host domain name to the search domains, but this made no difference either.
This problem did not exist until recently. It may have been about the same time as the 10.5.4 update, but I can't be sure.
Also, our ISP is known to play with "Shaping" although we did have AFP set to high priority and Port 548 is not restricted.
Is there another service that Apple uses to bring up the logon window? If so perhaps our provider is restricting bandwidth on that.
Tim

Okay, Here's the DIG output from one of the remotes:
; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P1 <<>> cclgw.georgian.net
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47412
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cclgw.georgian.net. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cclgw.georgian.net. 3600 IN CNAME www.e3.ca.
www.e3.ca. 3600 IN A 142.46.42.2
;; Query time: 770 msec
;; SERVER: 208.67.222.222#53(208.67.222.222)
;; WHEN: Fri Aug 22 08:36:03 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 75
The telnet connection to the AFP port from the same machine was immediate.
I don't think that this is a DNS issue (Yes we have tried connecting to www.e3.ca with the same results)
- Tim

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