Remove Last Public Folder Database / Impact on Outlook 2007 - 2013 Clients ?? / Exchange 2010
Hello together,
we have an Exchange 2010 SP3 UR5 Infrastructure. Now the end is in sight for Public Folders :)
We want to Remove our Last Public Folder Database on our Organization.
How can i get this managed and what is the Outlook 2007+++ Client Impact on this Action ?
The Plan is:
Remove all Public Folder Content
Set the OAB to Web Distribution Only
Clear the “msExchHomePublicMDB” attribute on Exchange Databases
Clear the “siteFolderServer” attribute on CN=Exchange Administrative Group (FYDIBOHF23SPDLT)
Remove the Public Folder Database with ADSI
Is there anything else to do ?
Is there any Outlook Client Impact on this ? Does the Users get a Outlook Error like "your exchange administrator did some changes please restart" or is it transparent for the users ?
thanks for Feedback,
Best,
Martin
Hello,
Please follow the Naren.Neelam's suggestion.
Besides, I recommend you remove database via EMC or EMS. If you can't remove the database via EMC or EMS, and then you can use ADSIEDIT to remove the public folder database from the organization.
When you remove a public folder database, the Exchange database (.edb) file for the database and other files associated with the database aren't automatically deleted. You must delete the public folder database files manually.
Here are some articles for your reference.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd876883(v=exchg.141).aspx
http://exchangeserverpro.com/exchange-2010-remove-public-folder-database/ (Note: Microsoft
is providing this information as a convenience to you. The sites are not controlled by Microsoft. Microsoft cannot make any representations regarding the quality, safety, or suitability of any software or information found there. Please make sure that you
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Delete last Public Folder Database
Hi, i have full Exchange 2010 deployment and one Exchange 2007 mailbox server that contains only one public folder database.
I dont have any public fodler databases on Exchange 2010 servers so there is only one public folder db in the whole organization residing in the last mailbox 2007 server.
my users are not using public folders and i have full web distributino OAB and im not using the public folder db for anything
I want to remove that one public folder database, but it gave me errors that there is some folder inside, when i dig inside the PF eirarchy, i can only see some system folders that i couldnt delete.
So is it safe if i use adsiedit to delete that PF database?
ammarhasayenWhen running :
Get-PublicFolder -Server <server containing the public folder database> "\" -Recurse -ResultSize:Unlimited | Remove-PublicFolder -Server <server containing the public folder database> -Recurse
i got :
emove-PublicFolder : Modification of the root folder '\' is not allowed.
At line:1 char:91
+ Get-PublicFolder -Server Host1 "\" -Recurse -ResultSize:Unlimited | Remove-PublicFolder <<<< -Server Host1 -Recurse
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (0:Int32) [Remove-PublicFolder], ModificationDisallowedException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : 9DFBF7E8,Microsoft.Exchange.Management.MapiTasks.RemovePublicFolder
Remove-PublicFolder : Cannot delete the object '\Internet Newsgroups'. Please make sure that you specified the correct identity and that you have the corr
At line:1 char:91
+ Get-PublicFolder -Server Host1 "\" -Recurse -ResultSize:Unlimited | Remove-PublicFolder <<<< -Server Host1 -Recurse
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (1:Int32) [Remove-PublicFolder], MapiPartialCompletionException
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Move Public Folders Database to another Drive on same server - Exchange 2010
Hello all and thanks for your time and expertise.
We recently added a new drive to our Exchange 2010 server. I've moved all mailboxes including arbitration mailboxes to this new drive (and new mailbox database). I guess the last remaining step is to move the public folders databse to this new
drive. I know in the console I can move the database path and the log files path for the public folders database. Is this all I have to do to move my public folders successfully.
And then once everything is moved - can I safely remove the old mailbox database?
Your help and recommendations are greatly appreciated.Mike,
I moved the public folders database and received the following message:
"Summary: 1 item(s). 1 succeeded, 0 failed.
Elapsed time: 00:00:16
Public Folders
Completed
Warning:
The task completed successfully, but the database "Public Folders" cannot be restored.
The exception message is "An Active Manager operation failed. Error: The database action failed. Error: Unable to mount database 'Public Folders'.
The database appears to have been mounted at least once since its creation,
but there is no database file at 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange Server\V14\Mailbox\Public Folders\Public Folders.edb'. Either recover the database file from a backup,
or mount the database with a new, empty database by using the Mount-Database cmdlet with the -Force parameter.. [Database: Public Folders, Server: *******.***]".
Exchange Management Shell command completed:
move-DatabasePath -Identity 'Public Folders' -EdbFilePath 'g:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange Server\V14\Mailbox\Public Folders\Public Folders.edb' -LogFolderPath 'g:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange Server\V14\Mailbox\Public Folders'
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I blanked out the server name.
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I have a problem similar to
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Our OAB config looks good from both Outlook 2007 and Outlook 2010. Both can see the GAL in non-cached mode but in cached mode only 2007 can see the GAL. In 2010 it's just not there. Even the same user can only see it in 2007.
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Hello,
I am working in a Exchange 2010/2013 co-existence environment.
All mailboxes have been moved to Exchange 2013.
Public folders remain on Exchange 2010 for the moment.
There are 4 Public folder databases, all identical in terms of replicas:
PFDB1 - MBX01
PFDB2- MBX02
PFDB3 - MBX03
PFDB4 - MBX04
Circumstances beyond my control may mean that I need to take the MBX03 and MBX04 servers out of the production environment before I have migrated the public folder hierarchy across to 2013.
What is the recommended method for removing the public folder databases on these two servers?
Previous experience tells me that removing a database containing any replicas will fail. How can this be mitigated while keeping the PF structure in tact on PFDB1 and PFDB2 and thus serving the client mailboxes?
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To remove a public folder databae, you can look at the following article.
Remove Public Folder Databases
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/dd876883(v=exchg.141).aspx
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I am on Exchange 2010 SP3, and I am at the point where I am getting rid of using Public Folders. All folders have since been converted to room mailboxes, or deleted since they were unused. The OAB is no longer being distributed through pubic folders.
I was going to follow the steps here:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd876883(v=exchg.141).aspx
However, I am aware of the problem with the Internet Newsgroup
public folder that can't be deleted.
So I read where you have to use ADSI to delete the database instead if you can't delete the public folder database cause of that specific public folder. So what are the CORRECT steps/order to decommission your public folders when you have the dreaded
Internet Newsgroups public folder you can't delete?OK, I went to remove the public folder database today. But it wouldn't delete because of this issue I think.
It's the last public folder database in my enterprise, and the only folder left is the stupid Internet Newsgroup folder I can't delete.
The error is:
Microsoft Exchange Error
The public folder database 'DBPublicFolders' cannot be deleted.
DBPublicFolders
Failed
Error:
The public folder database "DBPublicFolders" contains folder replicas. Before deleting the public folder database, remove the folders or move the replicas to another public folder database. For detailed instructions about how to remove a public folder
database, see
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=81409&clcid=0x409.
OK
If I go the ADSI method, what should I do before hand? dismount the database? remove it's association with all databases? -
I have 2 Exchange 2010 SP3 RU6 servers. All Mailboxes and Public Folders have been moved from the old server to the new one. If I dismount the Public Folder database from the old server, delivery to mail enabled Public Folders stops. I
believe resolving this is the last step before decommissioning this old server and uninstalling Exchange from it.
Before I delete the Public Folder database and/or uninstall Exchange from my old server, what do I need to do to setup routing/transport of email to Public Folders on my new server?
I've used the MoveAllReplicas.PS1 script successfully and believe nothing remains on the old server. Do I simply need to remove all mail enabled Public folders now with the Remove-PublicFolder EMC command? Or is it a background kind of task that
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still it says that Replicase still exist within the Public Folder Database that I woul like to remove from my old server to be decommissioned. I've read of other people trying to uninstall Exchange from an old server that have encountered this error,
causing the uninstall to fail. Get-PublicFolderStatistics -Server "oldserver" | Format-List returns:
RunspaceId : 97d4eaaa-68e5-4c5f-ab61-f56de58fc01e
AdminDisplayName : Nntp Control Folder
AssociatedItemCount : 0
ContactCount : 0
CreationTime : 6/18/2002 8:42:31 AM
DeletedItemCount : 0
EntryId : 000000001A447390AA6611CD9BC800AA002FC45A0300F020D914C926D011A40900C04FD7BD87FFFFFFFF00020000
ExpiryTime :
FolderPath : Nntp Control Folder
IsDeletePending : False
ItemCount : 0
LastAccessTime : 8/11/2014 9:28:20 PM
LastModificationTime : 11/28/2012 5:41:45 AM
LastUserModificationTime :
LastUserAccessTime :
Name : Nntp Control Folder
OwnerCount : 0
TotalAssociatedItemSize : 0 B (0 bytes)
TotalDeletedItemSize : 0 B (0 bytes)
TotalItemSize : 0 B (0 bytes)
ServerName :
StorageGroupName :
DatabaseName : Public Folder Database 1
Identity : 000000001A447390AA6611CD9BC800AA002FC45A0300F020D914C926D011A40900C04FD7BD87FFFFFFFF00020000
MapiIdentity : 000000001A447390AA6611CD9BC800AA002FC45A0300F020D914C926D011A40900C04FD7BD87FFFFFFFF00020000
OriginatingServer : oldserver
IsValid : True
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WARNING: The object ci.walla-walla.wa.us/Microsoft Exchange System Objects/Library Vacation Calendar has been corrupted, and it's in an inconsistent state. The following validation errors happened:
WARNING: Property expression "Library Vacation Calendar" isn't valid. Valid values are: Strings formed with characters from A to Z (uppercase or lowercase), digits from 0 to 9, !, #, $, %, &, ', *, +, -, /, =, ?, ^, _, `, {, |, } or ~. One
or more periods may be embedded in an alias, but each period should be preceded and followed by at least one of the other characters. Unicode characters from U+00A1 to U+00FF are also valid in an alias, but they will be mapped to a best-fit US-ASCII
string in the e-mail address, which is generated from such an alias.
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past of a failed attempt. I do have a folder called VacationCalendar that the Library uses, and have even exported to PST and recreated without any impact to this problem. I do not know how to clear this condition, and assume it is responsible
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Exchange 2010 Recover Public Folder database from replication database.
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Eseutil /mh which confirmed a dirty shutdown. I then emptied all files from the Log folder which appeared as a result of the restore job and ran Eseutil /p which was successful.
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Exchange 2007 Public Folder Database cannot be deleted
We are in the process of decommissioning exchange 2007 server from 2007 <-> 2013 coexistence.
All user MailboxDatabases have been sucsessfully removed, however PF Mailbox databases return an error.
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3/16/2014 1:34:35 PM
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internal 0
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Sales 713
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microsoft 0
3/16/2014 1:34:35 PM
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1/4/2014 4:09:49 AM
OAB Version 3a 0
1/4/2014 4:09:49 AM
OAB Version 4 0
1/4/2014 4:09:49 AM
OWAScratchPad{8382AFC4-6D63-4804-AC49-7B 0 3/16/2014 1:34:35 PM
4FDA2A4514}
schema-root 0
3/16/2014 1:34:35 PM
Accounting 953
1/4/2014 10:15:16 AM
StoreEvents{8382AFC4-6D63-4804-AC49-7B4F 0 3/16/2014 1:34:35 PM
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We migrated our resource mailboxes thru the move mailboxes in 2013 EAC but now we're at the point of decommissioning our 2007 servers. Before the actual decommission we stopped all 2007 services and dismounted all 2007 databases. Once we did
this the resources would no longer work - errors pertaining to cannot directly book the resource.
I had to bring up the public folder database for the moved resources to work again. We do not use public folders any longer so we did not do any type of public folder migration. Do I need to do this for the resources to work?Hi,
Could you please tell me your Outlook version?
I saw someone got the following error when he tried to book resource after migrating from Exchange 2007 to Exchange 2010, if Outlook version is Outlook 2007. But Outlook 2010 worked well.
"Cannot directly book a resource for this meeting."
Please switch between online and cached mode to check the result. And please check if this issue occurs in OWA.
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I have a client with SBS2011. They have a corrupted Public Folder Database which cannot be repaired. I don't need any data. Is there a way to delete it (when I try to, it talks about selecting a different server, I only have the one sbs2011). I just
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When I try to create a new one, I am told I can only have one.
Help!Hi,
If you are trying to remove Public folder database from ADSIEdit, please back up the folder, just in case.
Or you can also try to remove Public folder database with this command
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Replace <ServerName> with the name of your server.
Best Regards.
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Exchange server 2013 supported mailbox databases and public folder databases
I want to know about Exchange server 2013 SP1 Standard and Enterprise version support how many Mailbox databases and Public folder Databases? Total Mailbox and Public folder databases supported information.
I Know as below but not clear:
1) Exchange server 2013 SP1 Sandard edition support 5 Databases, It's include Public folder databases, total=5 or 5 mailbox databases+5 public folder databases=10 databases
2) Exchange server 2013 SP1 Enterprise edition support 100 Databases, It's include Public folder databases, total=100 or 100 mailbox databases+100 public folder databases=200 databases
kindly let me know. Thanks.
BabuHi Babu,
Please check this link too.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2013/06/04/per-server-database-limits-explained.aspxhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2013/06/04/per-server-database-limits-explained.aspx
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Move Mailbox database and Public Folder database from VMwar RDM drive to VMware VMFS/VMDK Drive
Good Afternoon,
So I have 1 DAG with 3 mailbox server (1 physical and 2 Virtual (vmware)). The Vmware server Mailbox and Public folder databases/logs are currently on RDM drive. I need to get rid of the RDM drives and use VMFS/Vmdk drives for mailbox and public
folder databases. I was thinking 3 options:
1- Introduce new VM Members into DAG and simply give these new VMs VMFS/VMDK drives, add servers into DAG and have DAG replicate databases to new server. I really don't want to do this.
2-On current VM, delete RDM drive along with database, add VMFS/VMDK drive replacement and have the DAG copy database.
3- On current VM, suspend replication, copy database/logs in temp location, delete the RDM drive, create the VMFS/VMDK drive, copy the database and logs to new drive, enable replication. Do the same for public folder database/logs, but not sure how
to stop/start replications, since its not in DAG?
I'm looking for solution that will take least amount of time. Option 3 seems best solution, but not sure if there any gotchas.. What are you thought??
Thanks in advance for you helpTake the database offline means stop replications to the the passive mailbox server?
Also, what is procedure to take public folder offline. We have public folder replicated on all 3 servers.
Hi cuttabutta,
Yes, take the database offline on the passive server can stop replication from primary server.
you can also take the public folder database offline to stop replication.
In addition, you can refer to the following article to configure public folder replication:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb691120(v=exchg.141).aspx
Best regards,
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Exchange 2007 error relating to Public Folder Database
Hi
We migrated from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2007 recently as we already had the licence so decided to take advantage of it.
We unfortunately forgot to migrate the Public Folders as we mistakenly thought as we didn't use them they were no longer needed in Exchange 2007.
We are now receiving
"Event ID 8207, MSExchangeFBPublish
Error updating public folder with free/busy information on virtual machine BARR-EXCH-001. The error number is 0x80004005."
On the server, I have tried http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945602 and the command
doesnt show an error but
Get-PublicFolder -Identity "\NON_IPM_SUBTREE\SCHEDULE+ FREE BUSY" -Recurse | fl name,Replicas
Still shows no entry for the NON_IPM_SUBTREE\SCHEDULE+ FREE BUSY. I have been advised to create a new PF store on the server as the one currently is probably empty or corrupted.
To do this would I follow this article http://technet.microsoft.com/en-GB/library/bb123687(v=exchg.80).aspx
Or
Dismount the public folder database on the Exchange 2007 serverGo to the folder path of the EDB filedelete\move the EDB fileGo back to the management console and mount the
public folder database. You will get a warning that one or more database files is missing. Go ahead and clickOK to mount a blank database file.?
Any help/advice appreciated.
Cheers
Cheers ChrisHi,
If the existing file is corrupt, I recommend you recreate a new public folder database in Exchange 2007.
To create a new public folder database, you can refer to the following article.
How to Create a New Public Folder Database
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-GB/library/bb123687(v=exchg.80).aspx
Best regards,
Belinda
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TechNet Community Support -
Public folder migration difference what Outlook client see
I have successfully migrated public fodders from Exchange 2007 to Exchange 2013. Problem that I`m seeing is what Outlook client see.
I have two types of clients :
Windows XP + Outlook 2007
Windows 7 + Outlook 2013
Outlook 2013 client see Public fodders as expected.
Outlook 2007 client, sees one level lower including ipm_subtree.
Is these normal ?Hi,
Please try to use OWA to check whether you can expand the subtree of Public Folder.
If OWA works, how about using Outlook 2007 with Online Mode?
Thanks
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