Removing cinema tools
I need to remove cinema tools from my laptop. When I installed FCP, I installed all the FCP components and now need more space on my laptop's hard drive. I'm still getting used to macs after living in a pc world so bear with me a sec. Can I simply drag the cinema tools icon from the application folder to the trash? Or do I run the Final Cut installer, uncheck cinema tools and click upgrade? (the only option other than cancel)
Thx
You can simply delete the Cinema Tools application and the receipt associated with it in the /Library/Receipts/ folder.
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Removing pulldown... cinema tools vs compressor vs ???
I have some footage shot at 24p on my canon hf 10. I need to remove pulldown. I saw this artice here
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410?viewlocale=en_US):
now, which is a better method, to remove the pulldown, cinema tools or compressor, or even, another third party app does it better? Compressor and Cinema tools are 2 different programs, so they must have 2 different ways of doing things, and or results.
with compressor I have created a setting and a droplet on my desktop.
but I am interested in what the article says
*This method requires that you determine the cadence pattern for each clip.*
*In Final Cut Pro, choose the Easy Setup named "Apple Intermediate Codec, 29.97, HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60".*
*Capture your clips.*
*Open each clip in Cinema Tools and manually reverse telecine each clip.*
how do I determine the Candence for EACH CLIP? also, if I shoot at 30p, do I also need to remove pulldown, or is this just for 24p?piff aroni wrote:
I have some footage shot at 24p on my canon hf 10. I need to remove pulldown. I saw this artice here
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410?viewlocale=en_US
Zak Ray wrote:
Not sure why the article is recommending using AIC-- as I see it, your options are 1) capture native HDV and transcode to ProRes + reverse telecine in Compressor, or 2) capture ProRes and reverse telecine in Cinema Tools.
The best way to figure it out is probably to just run a test.
Am in a very similar situation to Piff, and as Zak suggests am about to do some tests.
Meantime though, would be interested to hear from anyone with experience in this particular area, especially since the Knowledge Base article quoted above is a bit confusing on two fronts:
1) It refers to the Canon HV20, which shoots HDV, whereas the camera referenced by the original poster, the Canon HF10 -- assuming it's the same Canon HF10 I've been using -- shoots AVCHD files on SDHC cards (and/or its internal memory);
2) As Zak points out, it's surprising that there's no mention of ProRes, just AIC. The article says it was last modified July, 2008 -- was that pre-ProRes?
In any case, I'll try to post my results as soon as I can run my own Compressor vs. Cinema Tools tests -- but in the meantime would appreciate hearing any insights from those who've already been down that road, especially in regards to best practices for removing the pulldown added by the Canon HF10 when shooting "24p" (which as a colleague recently pointed out, should actually be called "24f", as in "24fake" -- since it's really just 29.97 interlaced in disguise).
Thanks,
John Bertram
Toronto -
Cinema Tool's pulldown removal and quality
How much quality is lost if you have 24p Normal being run thru Cinema Tools to edit in 24p? When it is transfered to film and video is it really noticable?
Thanks, AlexI read this from here:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/24p_in_FCPnattress.html
-----When “normal” 2:3:2:3 pulldown is removed (in Cinema Tools, say) the DV video needs to be decompressed so that the pulldown fields can be extracted. Final Cut Pro can remove the “advanced” 2:3:3:2 pulldown without decompressing the video, and hence it’s “in camera” quality can be maintained.------
It doesn't seem to make a big difference to this writer because he goes on to explain the advantages of 2:3 as well... I just thought perhaps someone could coment
This is a great website but are his settings correct... i.e. run it thru CT and then treat as advanced?
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Cinema Tools doesn't recognize pulldown cadence on 24p DVCPRO 50
Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone can give me a couple suggestions on this...
I've been capturing 24p material for a documentary from different sources and with different pulldown cadences: DV @ 24p and 24p Advanced, and DVCPRO 50 @ 24p.
The extra frames from the two DV types get removed properly, but not from the DVCPRO 50. I take a clip into Cinema Tools and hit 'Rev Telecine..' (Automated so no options to choose from) and it gives me a 23.98 clip with the what should be the C frame interlaced. (A B C/D D)
It looks like CT is removing 2:3:3:2 'advanced' pulldown and not the normal 2:3:2:3, like it's reading the metadata in the clip wrong. Does anyone know a way to manually set the type of pulldown--either in Cinema Tools or within the metadata of the clip itself?
Thanks in advance,
Will
Dual 2.7 GHz G5, 4.5 GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.2) FCP 5.03, Cinema Tools 3.03I didn't know therre was an Automated way either until working on this project, and maybe it's a new setting in Cinema Tools 3. The manual says that CT will recognize the pulldown on the clip automatically when it was shot in a 24p video camera, that this information gets embedded in the clip. The dialog box it gives you for the automatic reverse telecine has no options at all, and all my clips started on an A frame for the possibility of doing all as a batch.
I may have found what happened, (although not how to fix it). My capture setting had Remove Advanced Pulldown checked, and the tapes were recorded with regular pulldown. In my experience with DV footage this has never mattered, it would remove it if it could and if not leave the clip alone.
It looks like there's a bug somewhere in the DVCPRO 50 capture process--that the clip is has the 24p Advanced markers embedded even though it is regular 24p, and so Cinema Tools treats it improperly and removes the wrong frames:
24p Advanced (2:3:3:2) A B B/C C D 29.97 Footage
24p (2:3:2:3) A B C/B C/D D
I I 0 I I (CT removing 2:3:3:2 Pulldown)
24p Advanced A B C D
24p *my result* A B C/D D 23.98 Footage
Has anyone else encountered this bug? Any work arounds known?
Thanks,
Will -
Problems with pulldown In Cinema Tools
I am attempting a pulldown on some footage shot at 24pA on the Sony V1U (which I was told on this forum was not real 24p and therefore did not require a pulldown but found out from Sony that it is) and captured at 29.97. Looking at the Quicktime file before the pulldown, every 3 frames are clear followed by 2 blurry ones (which I understand to be blurry due to being interlaced.) After the pulldown in Cinema Tools, 1 frame is clear and 3 are blurry. This gives the footage a "stuttered" or "jittery" look when viewed on an NTSC monitor. If I am editing this video with 29.97 video and my final export is NTSC, what is the best gameplan for dealing with the pulldown issue? To pulldown or not to pulldown? That is the question.
If you're not getting a clean pulldown removal, I wouldn't bother. The only reason to edit at 24 in standard def is if you're trying to author a 24fps DVD (which allows you to get better quality at a lower bitrate).
I don't have any experience with removing pulldown from material shot with this camera. I have removed pulldown from a film to tape transfer. I simply kept trying the different options available in cinema tools til I got a clean 24fps (actually 23.986) quicktime.
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Video Rate Changes from Cinema Tools to Final Cut
I have a problem that exists on serveral levels. Hopefully I can explain:
1. I directed a concert shoot with eight cameras. All cameras were Panasonic DVX100A configured for 24p Advanced except one, which was a Panasonic SDX900 configured for 24p (which I later discovered was laid down with a 3:2 pulldown instead of a 2:3:3:2 advanced pulldown like the DVX100A cameras).
2. It was planned from the beginning to use the multiclip feature in FCP to edit the footage.
3. The tapes from each camera were captured from beginning to end—about an hour each tape, four tapes per camera—at full resolution, the pulldown was removed, and the clips were then recompressed to Photo JPEG EXCEPT the tapes from the SDX900.
4. When I finally figured out that the footage from the SDX900 used a 3:2 pulldown, I opened the captured clips in Cinema Tools and attempted to remove the pulldown. The problem I ran into there was that CT can't handle files larger than 9 GB. Each captured clip (four of them—one for each tape) ranged between 10 and 13 GB.
5. My solution to this was to open each clip in QuickTime Pro and split the clip in half, open each half in CT and remove the pulldown on the smaller files, then open the smaller halves in QT again and join them back together into a single clip.
6. When I open the new master clips in Cinema Tools and analyze them, the video/frame rate is 23.98 as expected. BUT, when I import the clips into Final Cut Pro, the video/frame rate is 29.97 and I can't understand why. If I try to do a pulldown removal (again) from FCP, it doesn't work—I get an error that it can't find a clip with a pulldown to remove (duh!).
Is this a bug, and is there any way to fix this and make it work? I need to make all of the assets available for my class at school.I have a problem that exists on serveral levels. Hopefully I can explain:
1. I directed a concert shoot with eight cameras. All cameras were Panasonic DVX100A configured for 24p Advanced except one, which was a Panasonic SDX900 configured for 24p (which I later discovered was laid down with a 3:2 pulldown instead of a 2:3:3:2 advanced pulldown like the DVX100A cameras).
2. It was planned from the beginning to use the multiclip feature in FCP to edit the footage.
3. The tapes from each camera were captured from beginning to end—about an hour each tape, four tapes per camera—at full resolution, the pulldown was removed, and the clips were then recompressed to Photo JPEG EXCEPT the tapes from the SDX900.
4. When I finally figured out that the footage from the SDX900 used a 3:2 pulldown, I opened the captured clips in Cinema Tools and attempted to remove the pulldown. The problem I ran into there was that CT can't handle files larger than 9 GB. Each captured clip (four of them—one for each tape) ranged between 10 and 13 GB.
5. My solution to this was to open each clip in QuickTime Pro and split the clip in half, open each half in CT and remove the pulldown on the smaller files, then open the smaller halves in QT again and join them back together into a single clip.
6. When I open the new master clips in Cinema Tools and analyze them, the video/frame rate is 23.98 as expected. BUT, when I import the clips into Final Cut Pro, the video/frame rate is 29.97 and I can't understand why. If I try to do a pulldown removal (again) from FCP, it doesn't work—I get an error that it can't find a clip with a pulldown to remove (duh!).
Is this a bug, and is there any way to fix this and make it work? I need to make all of the assets available for my class at school. -
Reverse Telecine Question (Cinema Tools)
Dear board members,
I have footage that was shot with Panasonic AG-HVX200 in 1080i60 (29.97fps), but with 24p function with a 2:3 pulldown. When I ingest it in FCP through Log and Transfer this footage (for some peculiar reason) shows up as 1080p30. I also need to remove pulldown to make it 24 (23,98) FPS.
My workaround is as follows:
1) I export these files from FCP as DVCPRO HD 1080i60 QT files.
2) then I send these new "masters" to Cinema Tools, where I do Reverse Telecine process.
The results looks fine, but I just want to double-check my settings in Cinema Tools, because the batch for this job contains thousands of clips and there is no room for mistake.
Reverse Telecine in Cinema Tools settings:
Capture Mode:
Field 1 - Field 2
Fields:
AA
File:
New (smaller)
Frames:
Conform to: 23.98 FPS
Standard Upper/Lower: Checked
Thank you very much for your time and (hopefully) helpful comments.
Regards,
TimI just did a test yesterday with MXFX software and there is a visible recompression in the resulting file. I compared the same frame (from different clips) processed through Cinema Tools and MXFX and also compared it to the original frame and MXFX clearly does something to the image (recompression or noise reduction, whatever you want to call it). Contacted them about it, they said they will look at it. Anyhow, the result is pretty visible at 200% zoom. Anyhow, that made me decide against MXFX.
Thanks for a suggestion though. -
Browser says Advanced pulldown didn't take: try cinema tools?
I'm in the midst of capturing many hours of interview footage shot in 24PA on a DVX100a. Although I always use the advanced pulldown capture setting, my results are inconsistent at best. According to FCP5's browser, some of my captured clips are 23.xx fps while others are still 29.xx fps.
1) Can I trust the accuracy of the info I see in the FCP browser with regard to the frame rate of my captured clips?
If so,
2) Should I now go back and try to recapture the clips that are listed as being 29.xx fps? Or would I be better off using Cinema Tools, which I understand can remove the pulldown from an already captured clip. One factor in my reluctance to re-capture is because there are occassional TC breaks in my footage that I often have trouble removing pulldown on the fly.
Thanks!
Powerbook G4 15" Mac OS X (10.4.4)I had this problem once with DVCPro HD, and found the problem to be that if my capture started in bars & tone (I would go 1 second into them, to ensure I got every frame of video), FCP would take the B&T frame rate for the whole clip, which happens to be 60i. So as a result, any clip that had B&T at the head was at 60, while any other clip that started midway through the tape was fine. Perhaps you have the same situation, where you are capturing a camera generated signal, which will be at 29.97, so FCP assumes that that is the frame rate you're going for.
Hope this helps.
Craig -
Film Workflow w/ FCP & Cinema Tools
I am cutting a feature shot on film for the first time and have a workflow question. Apologies if this post has been done to death and feel free to send a link to another post or site.
The film is being shot in 2 perf 35mm. It is going to the post house to be transferred to HDSR for effects. We are being given DVCAM tapes with burnt in timecode at 29.97 for offline editing. We will then give them an EDL at the end for online.
So what's next?
If I capture the DVCam tapes at 29.97, I then have to conform in CinemaTools right? This is where I'm unsure, as I am not familiar with the program.
Any info on the steps would be VERY much appreciated. Cheers in advance!BTW - That "read the cinema tools" response was both unhelpful and trite.
Your question deals with workflow, however, something confuses me.
If the feature was shot on 35mm, Telecine to HD-CAM SR and then downconverted to SD DV-CAM, I really doubt it is 29.97 w/ burned timecode.
Usually people shoot 24 when shooting film.
If that is the case then:
1) Your HD-CAM SR is 23.98
2) Your DVCAM is 29.97 with 23.98 Timecode burn in.
If you need to deliver an EDL for offline then your EDL will be worthless if your cutting in 29.97. The timecodes won't match.
So, the easiest thing (if an option) is to get the HD-CAM SR and get a Pro-Res file of that at 23.98. That could be converted down to whatever format you need for editing and wouldn't require removing pulldown. It will also give you a perfect EDL because it was taken from the master.
The second way, is to go the route you already have in mind.
1) Capture DVCAM at 29.97 and
2) remove 3:2 pulldown before you start editing.
There are many pitfalls with this method but atleast you have the burn-in to use as reference if you stray off course (meaning, you remove pulldown incorrectly).
Here are some methods:
A) track down After Effects. It has a function called Inerpret Footage. This will guess your pulldown and create new native media. This is my preferred method.
B) Use Cinema Tools. You should export a small segment of your footage and test removing the pulldown. Most don't get it right without determining the I-Frame.
C) Use Compressor's frame controls to remove your pulldown. This method (in my mind) is the sloppies of the bunch. It provides errors around cadence breaks... some people will disagree.
Either way, you'll need to treat that DVCAM footage before you start editing. Otherwise, you'll have to hand write your EDL if you cut in NTSC (29.97).
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What is Cinema Tools use for?
I had asked this question in the Cinema Tools forum, but haven’t gotten an answer, so I thought I’d asked here.
Can somebody explain to me what is Cinema Tools use for?
I have been using FCP for some time now and have never open Cinema Tools
What does it do?
Thank youPerhaps checking the online help or the manuals would help. I can't give you a definitive answer, but let me tell you what I've used it for. Film is normally shot at 24fps. When it's transferred to video it's slowed down to 23.986 fps and then 3:2 pulldown is added (fields are repeated in a particular order) to change the frame rate to 29.97 fps without changing the speed. There are several reasons you might want to remove this pulldown and restore your film to a progressive 23.986 frame rate.
I'd suggest opening the program up and exploring the menus and looking up any terms you don't understand in the manual.
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Cinema Tools crashes on new Macbook
I purchased a new Macbook and migrated all the content from the previous. Currently running 10.8.2. Cinema Tools 4.0.1 crashes at start (unexpectedly quit) every time. Checked disk utilities, no permissions issues.
Process:
Cinema Tools [1750]
Path:
/Applications/Cinema Tools.app/Contents/MacOS/Cinema Tools
Identifier:
com.apple.CinemaTools
Version:
4.0.1 (4.0.1)
Build Info:
CinemaToolsApp-710301148~9
Code Type:
X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [193]
User ID:
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Date/Time:
2012-11-30 14:50:50.641 -0500
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.8.2 (12C60)
Report Version: 10
Interval Since Last Report:
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Crashes Since Last Report:
17
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 12
Anonymous UUID:
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Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000084
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USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in), apple_vendor_id, 0x8509, 0x1a110000 / 3In AE, select the clip and control click and choose interpret footage. Choose the correct parameters and then output. Kind of a pain. You can also retime in compressor by setting the desired frame rate the the encoder panel: video and then in frame controls setting the appropriate timing.
Studio X is a wse man and he's probably right, but I also ran your crash log thru digital rebellions's crash analyzer and this it what it says
ProKit Framework
This crash seems to have been caused by the ProKit framework. A common cause for this crash is a mismatched framework version. Make sure you have the correct version of ProKit for your version of Cinema Tools.
If you upgraded your operating system, you may have still have older pro user interface elements installed instead of the ones compatible with your current OS. If this is the case, you will need to either update ProKit (if an update is available) or reinstall Final Cut Pro from scratch.
Suggested Actions
Update Final Cut Studio and ProKit.
Remove Final Cut Studio and reinstall.
Relevant Line
6 com.apple.prokit 0x003b2e79 _DoProSplashWithPath + 153
Report generated by Crash Analyzer in Pro Maintenance Tools -
Problems with reverse telecine in Cinema tools
I am trying to reverse telecine some 24p footage I shot on a panasonic dvx. I have captured several tapes of footage in FCP 7 (as 29.97 footage to get the full data stream), then I have been sending clips to cinema tools to be reverse telecined, then bringing them back into FCP and editing on a 23.98 timeline. So far, I have used this workflow with three of my tapes and they all look fine in the end, but with one tape in particular I took all of the same steps but am having problems. When I bring clips from that tape into cinema tools and select "reverse telecine" it seems as if Cinema Tools is working and processing the footage, but at the very end the window with that clip suddenly disappears and no .rev file of the footage is created. Cinema tools remains open, only that window with the footage that was being processed is gone. I have tried recapturing the footage, renaming it, and double-checking my capture settings in FCP but have yet to figure out why these clips from this tape in particular will not be reverse telecined. Any suggestions about what I could be doing wrong?
I am almost positive I shot them the exact way, although the scene file dial on the dvx is pretty easily changed, so maybe if I bumped it during filming...
So to check, I looked at the footage before it was reverse telecined on an external moniter and it looks the same as all my other footage--with about 2 interlaced frames for every five frames. Is there another way I could check?
I'll try your compressor idea and see if that will remove the 3:2 pulldown! Thanks for the advice! -
Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine problem-24 vs. 23.98 + sound issue
Hello again folks,
Trying to figure this all out, and thanks in advance for your input; this forum is amazing and has been invaluable!
I've been studying the FCP and CT pdf manuals and lots of links/threads here in the forum to get the proper workflow, have tried it all out, and ran into some problems:
Need to convert--sorry--REVERSE TELECINE--my captured DV 24p (captured at 29.97) footage into 23.98fps to edit in 23.98. Copied some media files so as not to ruin the originals, chose them from project bins, and sent them to CT using FCP'S "Tools>Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine" (super easy and feeling overconfident). When I checked the footage, two things were odd:
1) My new frame rate was at "24" not "23.98", which I believe I want to be working in in order to achieve my desired finished product (I'm sure I read this in the forum and links, does it matter?), and
2) for kicks, while there in Tools, I tried one clip with "Tools>Remove Advance Pulldown", which did result in the 23.98fps.
3) about 6 seconds into the new 23.98fps clip the sound disappears (I checked and the original clips have good sound throughout).
Any thoughts out there on this. Should I be reversing telecine from within CT (by importing clips), and not from FCP's easy Tools>Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine.
Any links or thoughts to clarify will be received with great admiration and thanks!
Greg
Macbook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8) FCP ver.5.1.2. and CT ver.3.1.2
Macbook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Macbook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)We'll need some more details. Where is your footage coming from? Was it originally HDCAM and downconverted to DV? Was the audio recorded straight to tape or was it synced in post? Is it consistently one or two frames out of sync or does it drift out of sync? How was it digitized? If you open the clip in Cinema Tools and step through it frame by frame do you see any interlaced frames?
There are dozens of things that can go wrong with this sort of process, so it's important to get really detailed. -
TRIED EVERYTHING/NO LUCK with Reverse Telecine in Cinema Tools 29.97 to 24p
I read an article that was on Ken Stones site. It said that, basically you CAN'T
take a clip that is at 29.97 and has 3:2 pulldown in it, and get it to actual 24 progressive frames? Is this true? Has ANYONE out there actually removed pulldown CORRECTLY with footage shot at 24, then transferred to 29.97?
I've tried all options with Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine, and I always wind up with some interlacing.
My QT clip has a 3:2 cadence, one can frame through it and see this.
Am I missing something here? Does anyone know a procedure that can get me to 24 progressive frames. Is there a 3rd party piece of software out there?
Any relies appreciated.
G5 2.3 early Mac OS X (10.4.7) Cinema Tools V 3.1.1
G5 2.3 Mac OS X (10.3.8) Cinema Tools V3.1.1 QT V7.1.2 FCP V5.1.1Well then, that is your problem. Those aren't reverse telecin-able. What are reversable are DV tapes that you captured at 29.97...in the DV/NTSC codec.
Are you working with Digital Intermediates? Or footage telecined to tape?
Typical Telecine to Tape workflow is:
Telecine to DVCAM
Lab provides DVCAM and Flex file to you.
Open Cinema Tools. Import Flex file and export batch Capture list.
Import batch capture list into FCP.
Batch Capture the DV footage.
Reverse telecine the footage with Cinema Tools.
Edit.
What exactly are you doing? Where did these files come from? What is your workflow?
Shane -
Converting 29.97 to 23.98 -- Cinema Tools v Compressor.
Hi All,
I've been reading up on the forum about this, but not sure if I have come up with a conclusive enough answer, so hope you won't mind me posting this question:
I have 29.97 footage shot on Panasonic 3000 which I have to use in my 23.98 project. I've been told by our online editor to use Cinema Tools to change the tc to 23.98... as we just need to change the tc structure - Sync is not an issue. Something just sounds off about this to me, maybe I'm so used to doing conversions in Compressor. Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Susan.YOu can't just "change the timecode to 23.98." You need to CONVERT the footage from 29.97fps to 23.98 fps. Cinema Tools will Reverse Telecine, removing redudant frames. But unless the footage was shot with 23.98 in mind (for example, it was shot 24pA with Advanced Pulldown Removal), your results might not look good. If this is footage that was shot 29.97 and NOT meant to be used as 24p, then you need to use Compressor, and set all the FRAME CONTROLS to best.
Shane
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When I go to se11; I can get information about a table; its field names and field description. How can I access same information using an ABP Program? I have a third party tool which connects to SAP; it can pull data from any SAP Table or view. I do
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How to modify a standard OAF page in version R12
Dear all, I have a requirement to modify a standard OAF page(can't implement by personalization),and my EBS version is R12,but i have not the source java code of the page,I try to decomplie the class file by a sofeware named 'YingSoft' , as the r12's
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Hi, I'm having issues when I try to use exp utility to dump the database as a normal. Here is the error: Message 206 not found; No message file for product=RDBMS, facility=EXP: Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production on Wed Feb 22 14:54:08 2006 Copyright (c)
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Hi All, I am doing an IDOC to EDI File scenario, and EDI Conversion using Conversion agent. I have designed the Serializer from the standard library in Conversion agent studio. I need to to add the Line wrap for the output EDI file. How can i do this