Removing key caps on the new Apple Keyboard

I'd prefer to rearrange the physical key caps on the new aluminum keyboards, is there a relatively safe way of removing them?

srdjanst wrote:
After only a couple of months of use, some of the keys have become really squeaky, and some feel as if the spring is broken so they produce unpleasant sound.
Contact Lenovo about this and ask if they'll replace the keyboard under warranty.
Before you call, pull out the keyboard and write down the FRU number. The procedure for removing/replacing the keyboard is in the Users Guide.
Lenovo buys keyboards from several different manufacturers. When you call Lenovo, give them the FRU number and ask for a replacement from a different manufacturer. The FRU is different for each manufacturer of the same keyboard so by giving them the FRU of your keyboard they can send you a replacement from a different maker.
Cheers... Dorian Hausman
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Hello - thank you for the quick responses! To answer your question, yes, I have repaired my permissions and restarted, to no avail.
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http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=56619
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=55482
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That post is describing the problems I have when using the new apple aluminium keyboard on a PC using the windows XP keyboard drivers found on the boot camp CD (1.4)
This is my first post here so please be kind with me
First, let me know in case there is a better section where I should post that post.
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Boot Camp
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That would all be very nice.
If you need a tester for that scenario, count on me,
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I love that keyboard and do not intend to stop using it,
John.

Hello spidermains,
Happy to see that I have a friend in that adventure
Look I have a blog entry here:
http://www.happytocode.com/post/Can-I-use-the-new-Apple-USB-Aluminium-keyboard-o n-Windows.aspx
That post describes all the steps I followed to extract the drivers from the dual boot camp CD.
I'm using a PC, only a PC. I do not have any Apple computer (yet).
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If you have other questions... let me know,
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Alright! I finally got my NEW aluminum keyboard from my local Apple Store (I made sure to call in before going... not that it's a journey to get there, but don't want to waste time if they don't have it) and just installed it with my PowerMac G4 Dual FW 800 model.
I'm typing on it right now instead of my PowerBook.
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Mine purrs like a Leopard... aha!!
(I love the quiet sound and less exacting pressure needed to type as opposed to my previous black Apple Pro Keyboard. I would never have bought this new flat aluminum keyboard if it didn't match my Envision silver monitors).
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$49 well spent!! I don't like the wireless version. Looks kind of odd shaped with the extra space on top (for the batteries). They didn't have those in stock anyway.
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