Removing Lion for Leopard

Got a new macbook pro to replace my old one with 10.4. Most of my equipment (scanners, printers, etc.) now don't work. Can I remove Lion and replace it with Leopard?

Can you remove Lion 10.7 and replace it with Leopard 10.5...no, not possible. read this: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2186

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How do I remove Lion and go back to Snow Leopard OS?

How do I remove Lion and go back to Snow Leopard?

If you have the white upgrade disk (originally, you had Leopard and bought SL later), easy. I'm not sure if you have the grey disks (you bought the machine with SL).
If you have the white disk, the first thing you do is get a USB external HD. Format it to GUID with disk utility.
Insert the white SL disk and restart. Follow the instructions to install SL on the external disk.
Have a look here for a step by step tutorial for setting up the external HD: http://www.maciverse.com/installing-snow-leopard-onto-an-external-hard-drive.htm l
From here on in you have two choices:
1. You can run SL off the external disk and keep Lion and all your files/data on the internal disk.
This is the easiset thing to do. You can open files from your Internal Lion disk by navigating through to it in Finder when you're booted in to SL on your external disk. Practical if you have a desktop machine, maybe not if you have a laptop that you need to carry everywhere (you'd have carry the external HD with you all the time).
Any non-Lion only (i.e., not Safari, Preview, Terminal and Mail Lion upgrades) apps should also run off your Lion disk when you're booted into SL, but if you have any problems, just drag them from the Lion Apps folder to the SL apps folder.
2. Move everything over to the external disk if you plan to install SL back to your internal disk.
Start copying over all your apps and files manually by dragging them from the internal disk Apps and Folders to the external disk Apps and Folders. If you have Time Machine, you can also copy your files by navigating to Time Machine through the Finder rather than trying to use the Time machine interface.
You might spend some days doing this, but it's worth doing it manually. When you're done and sure you have everything, google 'Carbon Copy Cloner'. Download it (its free), and clone your external HD to your internal HD. SL restored!

CAN I REMOVE LION AND GO BACK TO SNOW LEOPARD

can i remove lion and return to snow leopard

I see the help offered. I have just posted the same question and now see others with the same problem. Lion may be fine, but for me It's giving me a headache. A couple years ago I switched from a long time PC user to Mac largely because I was tired of the constant "upgrade" "patch and fix" merry-go-round we get with "those other guys". My Macbook Pro worked well with Snow Leopard but was eventually talked into the Lion upgrade. 24 hours later, I'm sorry I did. Some of my software that worked for me is not supported by Lion and neither is my Linkstation (where I have my files and backups). I tried installing the disk that came with the system to revert or return to factory condition but it too returned an error message "...software not supported...". I tried both pressing "C" during startup and when that failed, tried installing from the disk after Lion loaded, same result.
I see that suggested as a solution so I'll try again, just in case I missed something, but if there are other thoughts or suggestions, they are appreciated. I've tried to go into disk utility to partician, nope not allowed, can should I "erase" the current partician or ????
I don't know... thanks for any suggestions to clean this up.
Thanks.

HELP! How do I remove Lion and reinstall Snow Leopard and my files

HELP! How do I remove Lion and reinstall Snow Leopard & my files BUT I just discovered my Apple Time Capsule which was using Time Machine DIED
I had to go to MacMall and have the Time Capsule data transfered to a new BAK drive($300+$300)
(The Apple Store sent me there as they said they do not do data transfer)
Now what do I do?
? ? One Senior advisor said that I will have to drag and drop the data file or files? from the Time Capsule BAK drive back to my iMAC but will that include all the Snow Leopard operating system ?
? ? Another senior advisor said I will have to wipe my hard drive then install Snow Leopard then "drag and drop", ? ??
All my business leases, database, spreadsheets. letters, mail merge files, and so on are not available with Lion -
I AM VERY ANGRY AS I NEVER SAW THAT WRITTEN ANYWHERE !!!
I am seriously confused and I AM SCARED TO MAKE A MISTAKE-HELP !!
WHAT DO I DO ? AND IN WHAT ORDER? PLEASE HELP!

Your post is confusing to read too.
It sounds like you still have your files on your Mac. Why do you want to back track to Snow Leopard on your Mac? Why can't you read your files from your Mac? If your files are on your Mac, why are you taking them off your broken Time Capsule? You don't have to install Snow Leopard to transfer your files back to your Mac. Maybe step back a bit and explain your situation a little better with details. For instance, what's a BAK drive? Suggest you explain what you are trying to do?
Before you do anything, create a backup of your Mac to another disk drive.. suggest you use Carbon Copy Cloner to make another copy of your Mac.

Is it possible to reinstall Snow Leopard, removing Lion, without reformatting the hard drive or losing data?

Since I've installed Lion on my early 2009 model iMac, it runs really slow and sometimes is unresponsive. I'm thinking of reinstalling Snow Leopard, removing Lion, but want to know if anyone has done this and experienced any problems or data loss.

samberl wrote:
Reinstalling your OSX is a very simple exercise. I just would not do it from a TM backup.
He already has Time Machine backups.
Reformat, reinstall OSX Snow Leopard and then restore your applications, settings and user directories
You can do most of that, but "complex" 3rd-party applications (typically, ones that came with their own installers) must be reinstalled from the original discs. See Transferring Applications for details.
And don't restore the default Apple apps -- most (or all) of the Lion versions won't work on Snow Leopard.
Other apps (iLife, iWork, 3rd-party) that were updated or purchased after the Lion installation also may not work on Snow Leoaprd.
In addition, there will be problems with some Snow Leopard apps that won't work with the different file/folder structure used on Lion. Mail is one, for sure.
Much faster than TM machine,
Should take about the same time as from a clone.
you should be up and running in an hour or two.
Depending on how much there is, and especially how many complex apps, that may be rather optimistic.
Save yourself a bundle by not buying a new iMac.
Absolutely (although that didn't seem serious).

Free Upgrade To Lion For New MacBook Pro Shipped With Snow Leopard?

I just bought a brand new MacBook Pro which just arrived last week. It came pre-installed with Snow Leopard. Is there a program, as in the past, to upgrade to Lion for free? So far I have not figured out a way to do this.

OS X Lion - Get up to date

I've got the Macbook Pro with leopard, if i want to get Lion for it, do i have to get snow leopard first? i don't have a mac app store!

I've got the Macbook Pro with leopard, if i want to get Lion for it, do i have to get snow leopard first? i don't have a mac app store!

Ian, this might help explain it a bit more:
http://osxdaily.com/2011/06/07/mac-os-x-10-7-lion-system-requirements/
It's only available from the store, and you need 10.6.6 to access the store. But if you can download it using 10.6.6 on another machine, you'll be able to install it on a machine meeting the hardware requirements (it doesn't matter which OS was installed on it).

Can I upgrade to Mountain Lion from Leopard for free?

Hi Apple Support,
I was in the Apple, Covent Garden store the other day and an assistant said that I could upgrade to Mountain Lion from Leopard for free in one CD. He told me to call a number which I did and the assistant over the phone had no idea about this offer.
Can someone dispell the confusion for me?
Thanks

You can't. The Mountain Lion upgrade is only free for people who purchased a new Mac on or after July 26 without it installed, and all of the computers which fall into that category shipped with Lion, not Leopard.
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If I currently purchase OS X Snow Leopard will I be able to upgrade to OS X Lion for free?

I am currently updating my software from Leopard to Snow Leopard, since Lion is coming out in less than a month or so will I be able to upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion for free. I saw somewhere on apple.com if I purchase a new mac that you are eligable for a free upgrade, but is it the same if I purchase just the software brand new?

No. See the announcement:
Lion Up-To-Date upgrade
"The Mac OS X Lion Up-To-Date upgrade is available at no additional charge via the Mac App Store to all customers who purchased a qualifying new Mac system from Apple or an Apple Authorized Reseller on or after June 6, 2011. Users must request their Up-To-Date upgrade within 30 days of purchase of their Mac computer. Customers who purchase a qualifying Mac between June 6, 2011 and the date when Lion is available in the Mac App Store will have 30 days from Lion’s official release date to make a request." See below:
OS X Lion - Get up to date
It does not say you get it for free if you buy Snow Leopard. You have to purchase a new Mac computer.

What exact steps do I need to do upgrade for leopard 10.5.8 software to Lion software??

From searching the Apple web site there is a significant lack of information for Leopard software users using 10.5.8 upgrading to the latest Lion software.
I have a recent iMAC from 2009 using Leopard software 10.5.8 and it is not that old software. The web site talks only about the Snow Leopard software upgrade to Lion as being available to download.
What steps do you need to do if you are a Leopard software user?? There does not seem to be any process steps on what is required for Leopard users which is disappointing and confusing.
1. Do I need to upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard and then again to Lion? It seems that you may have to pay 2 times to get the Lion software working.
2. If so, can you download the upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard or do you have to buy the physical Snow Leopard CD software from a store?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Kind Regards
Mark

1. Yes, or wait for the 10.7 flash drives to become available in August.
2. You can't download it. If you buy it from an online store, it comes in the form of a DVD shipped to you.
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What is the difference between mouton lion, lion, snow leopard? I have an iPad, iPhone and iMac but I have no idea what you would use these for?

What is the difference between mouton lion, lion, snow leopard? I have an iPad, iPhone and iMac but I have no idea what you would use these for?

Probably. Back up your data and check your applications for compatibility before installing it.
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If I upgrade my leopard computer to snow leopard via an old update disc, can I then upgrade to Mountain Lion for the $20 deal?

If I upgrade my leopard computer to snow leopard via an old update disc, can I then upgrade to Mountain Lion for the $20 deal?

Yes, provided your computer meets the system requirements and you have updated Snow Leopard to 10.6.8:
After you install Snow Leopard you will have to download and install the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 to update Snow Leopard to 10.6.8 and give you access to the App Store.
Apple - OS X Mountain Lion - Read the technical specifications.
Macs that can be upgraded to OS X Mountain Lion
iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
Xserve (Early 2009)
I would also read this:
Make Your Own Mountain/Lion Installer
1. After downloading Mountain/Lion you must first save the Install Mac OS X Mountain/Lion application. After Mountain/Lion downloads DO NOT click on the Install button. Go to your Applications folder and make a copy of the Mountain/Lion installer. Move the copy into your Downloads folder. Now you can click on the Install button. You must do this because the installer deletes itself automatically when it finishes installing.
2. Get a USB flash drive that is at least 8 GBs. Prep this flash drive as follows:
Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
After DU loads select your flash drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to an hour depending upon the flash drive size.
3. Locate the saved Mountain/Lion installer in your Downloads folder. CTRL- or RIGHT-click on the installer and select Show Package Contents from the contextual menu. Double-click on the Contents folder to open it. Double-click on the SharedSupport folder. In this folder you will see a disc image named InstallESD.dmg.
4. Plug in your freshly prepared USB flash drive. You are going to clone the content of the InstallESD.dmg disc image to the flash drive as follows:
Double-click on the InstallESD.dmg file to mount it on your Desktop.
Open Disk Utility.
Select the USB flash drive from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Select the USB flash drive volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Drag the mounted disc icon from the Desktop into the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
When the clone is completed you have a fully bootable installer that you can use without having to re-download Mountain/Lion.
Note: The term Mountain/Lion used above means Lion or Mountain Lion.
As an alternative to the above you can try using Lion DiskMaker 2.0 that automates the process.

Snow Leopard or Lion for new Mac User?

Hi everyone: I purchased my first Mac (a MacBook Pro) about a month back and shortly thereafter upgraded to Lion for free through the apps store. Since then, using/navigating the new Mac has been somewhat challenging for me and I'm not yet comfortable with using it for all of my computing needs. (I have an old Toshiba that is still my go-to computer--for the moment.) I suspect that part of my challenges stem from being a new Mac user (irrespective of the particular OS) after years of using PCs, but I do wonder if they may also relate to OS Lion, which seems to have complicated the user experience. I was hoping that using a Mac would be more intuitive and simple than it seems to have been thus far.
With that in mind, might there be some utility in me reinstalling Snow Leopard (and if so how?) in order to become more used to the new Mac experience before permanently switching to Lion? If I do, would I be able to, down the road, resintall Lion for free?
I recognize that this suggestion would involve some learning curve redundancy (learning the Mac on Snow Leopard and eventually re-learning it with Lion). However, I have a sense that reverting back to Snow Leopard might ease my transition into the new Mac experience. Either way, I'm looking forward to eventually tossing out that Toshiba!
Thanks for any/all thoughts. Best, DC

If you want to downgrade to Snow Leopard then do the following:
Downgrade Lion to Snow Leopard
1. Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Quit DU and return to the installer. Install Snow Leopard.
This will erase the whole drive so be sure to backup your files if you don't have a backup already. If you have performed a TM backup using Lion be aware that you cannot restore from that backup in Snow Leopard (see below.) I suggest you make a separate backup using Carbon Copy Cloner 3.4.1.
If you have Snow Leopard Time Machine backups, do a full system restore per #14 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions. If you have subsequent backups from Lion, you can restore newer items selectively, via the "Star Wars" display, per #15 there, but be careful; some Snow Leopard apps may not work with the Lion files.
However, there isn't that much difference between Snow Leopard and Lion that using Snow Leopard would prove easier to learn. There are lots of tutorials available at the Apple website to help you learn how to use a Mac. You might start with Apple - Support - Mac 101 and Apple - Support - Switch 101. And, for Lion see About MacOS X.

Trying to update laptop. Putting snow leopard on so I can then buy lion for icloud. after restarting the laptop keeps going on and off. is this normal. white screen too.

Hi
I am trying to update my laptop to Lion for icloud. I am trying to put snow leopard on first but after putting in the disk and restarting my screen is white and it constantly sounds as if it is trying to start or close. Is this right? Thanks

So far so good (I asked because you've posted in the forum for PPC iMacs…).
So what SL disc are you using? The retail 10.6.3 disc (white with the snow leopard pic) or a grey disc borrowed from another Mac?

Downgrade ( lion to leopard ) without losing programs/data

Sup everyone!
I searched a lot and I can't find it anywhere. I need an answer to the next question:
How do I downgrade from Lion to Leopard without losing my (paid) programs?
See, I have Lion right now and I don't like it at all. I have the installation discs from Leopard. But I don't know if this is possible to downgrade.
I bought several programs, like MacKeeper and Microsoft Office 2010 etc. ( I do not have the discs or licenses of these progs ). So that's why I would like to know if it is possible to get back from Lion to Leopard without losing my programs.
I don't have progs specially made for Lion! =)
Hopefully someone can help me!
My English isn't that well, don't blame me, I am from the Netherlands!
Thanks already!
Bolino

It would be far easier to to get Lion running properly. I'm quite sure that all of your problems are due to incompatible or poorly written third party software. Just remove those and you'll be fine. I suggest starting with MacKeeper.
I wrote a little diagnostic program to help show what might be causing these problems. Download EtreCheck from http://www.etresoft.com/download/EtreCheck.zip, run it, and paste the results here.
Disclaimer: Although EtreCheck is free, there are other links on my site that could give me some form of compensation, financial or otherwise.

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