Render time 42 Hrs !

Posted a similar question a while back.I have a 72 min 1280 x 720 movie in H264 auto fps and restricted 1400 bit rate rendering.I have increased the saturation a little but that is all.It is taking forever to render and estimates 42 hours to finish surely something is a miss here? I rum new ish imac with 4 gigs ram amd have 32 gigs free space.Simon

Well it finally finished after I stopped it and changed a few settings.The render still took 16hrs but better than 2 days!It looks a little choppy in places but I can live with it.Part of the movie is footage from my HD Canon HF100 the rest is screencast quicktime files in Apple intermediate Codec so very good quality but large files.No doubt I'm doing some silly things due to my lack of knowledge and on that note can anyone recommend an online course/training?
My new website has just launched and some of my latest and older stuff can be seen there including some trailers.
www.prophotoinsights.net
Thanks for the help.
Simon

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The situation you describe does not seem normal. It should not take nearly that long to render and export your 3:30 movie. Considering that your mac is not one of the most recent vintage, and your are editing in full HD, one could expect it to take a bit of time, but nothing like this.
In the way of troubleshooting, you could try and export just one of these 10 second segments.
I have no way of knowing for sure, but I guess that it might export in a much more reasonable amount of time.
I suspect that memory may be running scarce, which, as has been repeatedly mentioned in these fora, is a problem affecting many of us using FCP X under Lion. You mentioned you used "purge" in the Terminal, but in such a long render you might have had to do it repeatedly...

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ok I have a two hour live event that I had to fix up.
I added ONE effect to it in After Effects CS3
added it to the render que using MP2 DV settings....
Im using
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CPU Speed:    2.5 GHz
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its estimating 40 hrs!!
am I doing sotmhing wrong? .. this will put us into 2011 and I will HOPE that it processes correctly.

Andrew
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Secondly, Im wondering now, if it out put the audio already and I have to run the entire thing again, would you run it without audio this time to save render time? but then there is the problem of syncing it up.
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Next time I upgrade I will wait for a small, light, solid state machine that will double as a solid state hard drive for the cameras.
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Is 12hrs a normal estimated render time for a 10min video?

I'm trying to make visuals for my music, which consists of 4 pictures, 4 adjustment layers (each with 1 evolution keyframe from start to finish on each), & 2 audio spectrums. Being brand new to AE, iss 12 hrs a normal render time upon exporting?
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Ah, your lack of experience won't help, I'm afraid. You cannot intuitively decide how to optimize rendering without lots of experience. AE just doesn't work like Photoshop or FCP or Illustrator. You could, hover, transcode your mp3 to aan uncompressed codec and save some processing. You could copy your Audio and Audio Spectrum layers and put them in their own comp and render that out as prores422. Bring the rendered movie back in and replace all those layers with the movie. Adjustment layers are sexy but misleading. You probably are using them incorrectly, most beginners do. Fractal noise can be a rendering slug. Render that as a movie if you can.
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>wanted to share
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Wonder if anyone else is getting as described?
I have a 3m37s project which is predomnantly motion graphics using live shot footage (.MXF files), Illustrator and a few JPGs.
In CS5 AE I get render times which average around 45mins, so I thought I'd see how quickly CS6 could crank it out by - as you can see I'm getting times which are in excess of 2 almost 3hours!
The project contains a few 2.5D moves as well as tiny bit of Trapcode 3D Stroke
I have mentioned on this forum that I'm having the Error 5070 problems with start up and Ray Trace is unavailable but these times seem seriously wrong to me.
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As an observation when I watch the frames counter ticking over, CS5 seems to steadily work it's way through the render at around less than a frame a second, CS6 seems to crank out 2-6 frames then hold for 30secs before working on another batch. It crawls to a halt near the end.
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Thanks
Rob
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because of a Typo

Thanks Rick - Yes what confused me was that it only took 45mins in CS5 even with MP 'on'
Still having no joy with Ray Tracing though, even though I have a Quadro 4000 card, I get the 5070 error on start up. Any ideas?

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