Renderer: Ray-traced 3D - doesn´t work

MacPro 10.8.2 After Effects CS6 11.0.0.378 CUDA 5.0.37
Hi,
I have a problem whith raytrace 3D renderer...
3D form/ Objects rendered with raytraced 3d worked without any problems the last month.
But now when I switch a layer into a 3d layer i cant´t see it any more.. please check out example
[img]http://up.picr.de/13654216rm.jpg[/img]
but when I change the preview to "fast layout" i can see the 3D Layers..please have look to the example again
[img]http://up.picr.de/13654464ff.jpg[/img]
I don´t know what I have changed?! Maybe it happend when I updated to CUDA 5. ??
I tried to updated back to 4.. but its not working I also installed AE new ..but no change!
thanks for any help, Jakob

..I installed the AE updates you posted. No change..
the GPU is a "PNY PCIe 2048MB Quadro 4000 Apple MAC Retail" [img]http://up.picr.de/13655875kl.png[/img]
..i also made a GPU update "Quadro & GeForce Mac OS X Driver Release 304.00.05"
No change..
..any other idea?
Thanks for any help/ comment, Jakob

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# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.
Section "ServerLayout"
# The Identifier line must be present
Identifier "Simple Layout"
# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens. The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.
Screen "Screen 1"
# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0666
EndSection
I precise I loaded my modules : dri, radeon, ati_agp and intel_agp.
Any ideas ?
Thanks

For Radeon 7000, you need to:
pacman -S xf86-video-ati
You need to load those modules in /etc/rc.conf:
MODULES=(agpgart via-agp)
And in xorg.conf:
Driver "radeon"

Encoded video doesn't work on Toshiba Blu-ray disc player

I have a problem that I am trying to encode a sequence of frames in a video container , but the encoded video doesn't work on toshiba blu ray disc player .. I am using the following ffmpeg command to encode frames and convert them to a video:
ffmpeg -i "C:\ManVsWigan\Frames\%d.png" -vcodec libx264 "C:\ManVsWigan\encoded.mp4"
I tried multiple video codecs but no luck yet
"-vcodec mpeg4"
"-vcodec mpeg2video"
If you have any idea please help me

The BluRay player leverages parts of Windows DirectShow but won't serve very well as a general player since Windows will load other players for the majority of media formats.
You can get away with a limited amount of tampering of the BluRay's players tolerance of media files until you violate some far away written DRM safeguard and kneecapping the BluRay player from doing anything.
If you're trying to validate your ffmpeg composed tests of your content as part of the editing process, you're better to avoid relying on the BluRay player that is purposed for narrow replay of licensed content and equipped with oversensitive safeguards susceptible to malfunctioning from the invasions of video pirates like you defined by studio executives.
You and I understand you're not a pirate but chances aren't being taken.
Whether you just dowloaded FFmep in the macho exe format or part of the millions of other packages that include it, you can tune your players to codecs pretty easily with the KLite Codec Manager or the Registry.
Chances are you already know about KLite since editing video on Windows eventually requires it and its hard to walk down the street without eventually kiceking over a copy. But just in case you've been living on a Martian cave with your hands over your ears, snag a mirrored copy from: http://codecguide.com /download_kl.htm
I like KLite more than others because it is fairly unobtrusive and avoids stomping over other media tools the way Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas enslaves Windows and can neuter BluRay codecs without always adequately replacing them. I can cite threads on the matter but just googling for anything such as "Adobe Premier killed my BluRay" or "Sony Vegas ruined Windows" will usually return desperate strings of posts long enough to wrap around Jupiters equator.
For general maintenance of Windows poor codec management, grab this noninstalling executable http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/installed_codec.html to determine if Windows believes it has the same codecs you thought it did and you'll likely be surprised by the fine tuning you'll need to perform.

Is gonna work the new Intel Iris Graphics with After Effects in GPU mode (ray traced) in a future?

I want to know if it will be posible... I don't want to think that lots of users (with intel iris MacBook's) are out of this option.

No.
The ray-traced 3D renderer is built on top of the Nvidia OptiX library, which requires CUDA.
Details:
http://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2012/05/gpu-cuda-opengl-features-in-after-effects-cs6. html

Warning that the GPU accelerated ray-traced 3D renderer does not have enough free memory to operate

[UPDATE: Memory handling for the ray-traced 3D renderer is greatly improved by installing the After Effects CC (12.2) or After Effects CS6 (11.0.4) update.]
You may see a warning message when using After Effects CC (12.1) that the GPU accelerated ray-traced 3D renderer does not have enough free memory to operate.
When the GPU acceleration of the ray-traced 3D renderer is disabled, the CPU version of the ray-traced 3D renderer will operate.
The message about the GPU-accelerated ray-traced 3D renderer not having enough free memory to operate is because of a change in After Effects CC (12.1) to actually warn you when your computer was in a dangerously low VRAM state. In After Effects CC (12.0) and After Effects CS6 (11.0), a computer with very little VRAM could still try to use the GPU accelerated ray-traced 3D renderer, but it would very, very, very often crash. So, now, After Effects CC (12.1) is just detecting the condition that would lead to a crash, telling you about it, and disabling the GPU acceleration until you have dealt with the problem.
So, how do you deal with this low-memory condition? You free up VRAM. This means closing all applicaitons that use GPU memory, which includes web browsers (yes, web browsers these days use the GPU). It also means disconnecting additional monitors, each of which uses a lot of VRAM. In some cases, restarting the computer is necessary.
This is primarily a problem on Mac OS with cards with 1GB of VRAM, such as the GT 650M in the MacBook Pro. These cards on this OS have just barely enough GPU memory (VRAM) to make use of the GPU-accelerated ray-traced 3D renderer under even the best of circumstances. If you want to use the GPU-accelerated ray-traced 3D renderer, you should really be using a more powerful GPU, one with more VRAM.
Note that this has nothing to do with the OpenGL GPU features in After Effects. Details of the GPU features are here: http://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2012/05/gpu-cuda-opengl-features-in-after-effects-cs6. html

hey Todd
i have the exact same problem but with my new macpro with renderay no matter what i do even a simple 3d extraction the renderay crashes! My cuda is full up to date and everything not sure why! if you have any way to resolve this issue would be awesome and help us out since i am on a deadline! at the moment!
I have attached a few screen shots and my computer specs! as you can see the GPU Should not be running low on memory xD since its pretty much nearly full speced!
The error!
This is what was there! and all i added was a extractor after this and the error above appears!
and this is my computer specs as you can see there is no lack of Power, Ram or VRAM here! so not sure why this error is occurring even after updating CUDA
if you have anything else i could try please let me know! Thanks!

Pre-comp 3D Ray-Traced text quality

I've made some text in AE. It looks smooth and great until I pre-comp. Then it gets some aliasing around the edges and is nowhere near as smooth.
Text looks aliased in the pre-comps. If I click the 3D icon on my master comp, it becomes smooth in master comp. Unfortunately, I can't leave 3D checked on because I want to apply effects to the 3D text - hence, the pre-comps. Changing the ray-trace quality and anti-alias filter type does not appear to change anything for me.
Any suggestions?
AE CS6
Win 7 64
2GB GTX 560 Ti
16GB RAM
i7-2600k
Thanks,
JB

I'm not exactly sure what your comp looks like but here are some guidelines. If you want to use Ray Traced rendering then you cannot apply certain effects, blend modes and other things to the 3D layer. If you pre-compose and collapse transformations you should be able to then apply effects to the pre-comp and still see the 3D and move around the object with the camera. If you turn on the 3D switch for the pre-comp the effects will then go away and the edges will show aliasing.
The Collapse Transformations switch looks like a * and is just right of the shy icon.
If that doesn't solve your problem then we need to see a screenshot and maybe a flow chart of your project.

AE CS6, ray tracing with K2100M on a precision M4800

Hello,
I work with after effects CS6, using a mobile workstation precision M4800 with QuadHD Display and a quadro card K2100M
The K200M GPU is supported for the acceleration of the ray-traced renderer, in K2100M I'm not sure.
in settings I get the following message:
GPU unavailable, incompatible devices or display driver.
I have installed the latest WHQL driver.
or do I need a special Cuda driver from nvidia like this one:
CUDA Downloads
The QHD display + of this precision is great and the i7-4930MX is strong enough, but ray tracing with GPU should be better.
Can someone help me?
I'm disappointed because I thought ray tracing with GPU works with a K2100M quadro card.
The K2100M is much faster than the K2000M and should work.
Best regards from Germany, Götz

Thank you very much!
"then you must install the CUDA driver. Simple as that."..........
I have the cuda driver already downloaded for windows 8.1
I have just reread this again, but I was not sure.
It's really easy when you get so a quick response from someone like you.
Tomorrow I will install the driver, but now I have to look at football,
Germany-Brazil
have a nice day

? With Ray-traced 3D are animated mattes not possible....

Hallo,
With Ray-traced 3D are animated mattes not possible ( say this help function ).
But - library.creativecow.net/mize_rob/AE_Flame-Effects/1 by Rob Mize - theese animated
mattes work.
And what means a separately area to render in classic 3d renderer?
Simply, can you do the same as in classic only with some better possibilities?
thx a lot,
In german:
animierte Masken sollen nicht in ray traced funktionieren, in o.g. Projekt funktionieren diese aber..
Und was heißt "Sie könne Komps über den klassischen 3d renderer in einer separaten Umgebung rendern?
Mir ist unklar, ob die Einschränkungen für den ray traced für die gesamte Komposition gelten oder kann
man beides - für verschiedene Ebenen - abwechselnd einsetzen?
Vielen Dank
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7W-ipXwfajoV1VVbTBqSnpxMmM/edit

Hallo Mylenium,
vielen Dank für deine Antwort, deutsch ist mir schon ein bissschen lieber!
Was mich irritiert, ist , dass das Projekt von Rob Mize in ray-traced gerendert keine Veränderungen bringt.
Es funktioniert also alles wie vorher - ich meine die vielen animierten Masken -.
Eigentlich sollten die ja nicht mehr funktionieren....
Ich habe das auch mit eigene tests probiert , es läßt sich alles animieren und trotzdem die Vorteile von ray-traced
nutzen!?!
Du meinst, die zu animierenden Masken in einer separaten comp realisieren, rendern und später integrieren,
verstehe ich das richtig ? ! ?
Noch eine Frage: Was meint Adobe Hilfe mit folgendem:
Sie können comps weiterhin über den classic 3d renderer in einer separaten Umgebung rendern.
Was meinen die mit separater Umgebung, - das was du gepostet hast -?
Schön, dass es deutschsprachige hier gibt, echt cool
Nochmal danke schön für dein reply und noch einen schönen Sonntag

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