Reordering images in Survey mode

What are the restrictions on rearraging images in Survey mode? I could not figure out why it would sometines work and sometimes doesn't.
For example, I have a main top directory 2012 and in it a folder for each month. If I am in GRID view at the 2012 level and choose images in Survey mode, I cannot rearrange them. But I am in GRID view in one of the subfolders, then I can.
Is this normal? Am I doing anything wrong?

Here are some helpful tutorials:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-lightroom-4/working-in-survey-view/
Survey View is simply a method you use to pick the best image from a sequence and has no other purpose
Read more: http://digital-photography-school.com/choosing-images-using-survey-view-in-lightroom#ixzz2 3dKcxNXA
Provided you are working with a Folder of images or a Collection (but not a Smart Collection, All Photographs or Previous Import), you can reorder images in Survey View. To do this, drag and drop an image into the position you want it to appear in the group.
Read more: http://digital-photography-school.com/choosing-images-using-survey-view-in-lightroom#ixzz2 3dKldfIQ
see the above
-janelle

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