Repair Disk Permissions: is it a safe operation ?

Hello,
I'm preparing for the 101 course and, reading about the Verify/Repair disk permissions utility, I wanted to test it on my mac.
I launched the verification on it and I see "lot" of unexpected entries (see below):
Verifying permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Permissions differ on “System/Library/User Template/ar.lproj”; should be drwxr-xr-x ; they are drwx------ .
User differs on “usr/share/collabd/coreclient/public/locales/zh_CN.lproj”; should be 94; user is 0.
Group differs on “usr/share/collabd/coreclient/public/locales/zh_CN.lproj”; should be 94; group is 0.
User differs on “usr/share/collabd/webauthd”; should be 94; user is 221.
Group differs on “usr/share/collabd/webauthd”; should be 94; group is 221.
User differs on “usr/share/collabd/webauthd/locales”; should be 94; user is 221.
Group differs on “usr/share/collabd/webauthd/locales”; should be 94; group is 221.
User differs on “usr/share/collabd/webauthd/locales/zh_CN.lproj”; should be 221; user is 0.
Group differs on “usr/share/collabd/webauthd/locales/zh_CN.lproj”; should be 221; group is 0.
Group differs on “Library/Java”; should be 0; group is 80.
Permissions differ on “Library/Java”; should be drwxr-xr-x ; they are drwxrwxr-x .
Permissions differ on “System/Library/User Template/cs.lproj/Pictures/iChat Icons”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “System/Library/User Template/hu.lproj/Pictures/iChat Icons”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “System/Library/User Template/tr.lproj/Pictures/iChat Icons”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
User differs on “usr/share/collabd/coreclient/locales/zh_CN.lproj”; should be 94; user is 0.
Group differs on “usr/share/collabd/coreclient/locales/zh_CN.lproj”; should be 94; group is 0.
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/zh_TW.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/zh_CN.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ru.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ko.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/nl.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/it.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/es.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/fr.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/de.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ja.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Group differs on “Library/Documentation/Applications/iTunes/Acknowledgements.rtf”; should be 0; group is 80.
Permissions differ on “Library/Documentation/Applications/iTunes/Acknowledgements.rtf”; should be -rw-r--r-- ; they are -rw-rw-r-- .
Group differs on “Library/Documentation/iPod/Acknowledgements.rtf”; should be 0; group is 80.
Permissions differ on “Library/Documentation/iPod/Acknowledgements.rtf”; should be -rw-r--r-- ; they are -rw-rw-r-- .
Group differs on “.DS_Store”; should be 80; group is 0.
Permissions differ on “.DS_Store”; should be -rw-rw-r-- ; they are -rw-r--r-- .
User differs on “Applications/.DS_Store”; should be 0; user is 501.
Permissions differ on “Applications/.DS_Store”; should be -rw-rw-r-- ; they are -rw-r--r-- .
Group differs on “Library/Preferences/com.apple.alf.plist”; should be 80; group is 0.
ACL found but not expected on “private/var/root”
ACL found but not expected on “private/var/root/Library”
ACL found but not expected on “private/var/root/Library/Preferences”
Permissions verification complete
It seems to me that these are all related to system files, things that weren't changed by third-party applications or by me.
The question are:
- why an untouched system would have errors in the permissions ?
- is it safe, since I haven't got until now problems with permissions on that os, to repair these errors or it's better to leave everything as it is now ?
Ciao,
Nicola

Hello Nicola,
You raise a touchy area for discussion...some users on here are very opposed to repairing permissions, others are strongly in favor of repairing permissions before and after software installation.
The permission statements you see do not generally adversely affect the system but they are not the permissions disk utility has been told to expect.  Those may be artifacts from the installation process and why we have been told in the past to always repair permissions after installing/updating the operating system.
Since you ran verification, if you run repair you will end up cleaning up a lot of this "discrepancies" with what disk utility wants to see.
Repair permissions is safe, and I tend to use it every time I upgrade or install software.
Ralph

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    1/29/11 6:52:59 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] ([0x0-0x1e01e].com.apple.AddressBook[206]) Exited: Terminated
    1/29/11 6:52:59 PM loginwindow[29] * -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (1) beyond bounds (1)
    1/29/11 6:52:59 PM com.apple.loginwindow[29] 2011-01-29 18:52:59.446 loginwindow[29:107] * -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (1) beyond bounds (1)
    1/29/11 6:53:14 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] (com.apple.AirPortBaseStationAgent[111]) Exited: Killed
    1/30/11 9:17:52 AM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
    1/30/11 9:19:51 AM com.apple.fontd[66] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 9:19:51 AM com.apple.WindowServer[68] Sun Jan 30 09:19:51 Troy-Lindstroms-MacBook.local WindowServer[68] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
    1/30/11 9:19:54 AM com.apple.fontd[66] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 9:20:00 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[78] ALF error: cannot find useragent 1102
    1/30/11 9:20:00 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[78] plugin.UserEventAgentFactory: called with typeID=FC86416D-6164-2070-726F-70735C216EC0
    1/30/11 9:20:00 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    1/30/11 9:20:02 AM fontd[98] Database content version mismatch (stored(15) != expected(14))
    1/30/11 9:20:04 AM SoftwareUpdateCheck[94] Checking for updates
    1/30/11 9:20:05 AM storeagent[102] port created
    1/30/11 9:20:08 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[109]) Exited with exit code: 1
    1/30/11 9:20:38 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.AirPortBaseStationAgent[111]) Exited: Killed
    1/30/11 9:20:39 AM com.apple.loginwindow[22] shutdown: / is busy updating; waiting for lock
    1/30/11 9:20:44 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.suhelperd[101]) Exited with exit code: 2
    1/30/11 9:20:45 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] ([0x0-0x6006].SoftwareUpdateCheck[94]) Exited with exit code: 102
    1/30/11 9:20:49 AM com.apple.coreservicesd[44] ThrottleProcessIO: throttling disk i/o
    1/30/11 9:20:55 AM com.apple.coreservicesd[44] ThrottleProcessIO: throttling disk i/o
    1/30/11 9:21:16 AM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
    1/30/11 9:22:04 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[81] ALF error: cannot find useragent 1102
    1/30/11 9:22:04 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[81] plugin.UserEventAgentFactory: called with typeID=FC86416D-6164-2070-726F-70735C216EC0
    1/30/11 9:22:04 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    1/30/11 9:22:07 AM fontd[101] Database content version mismatch (stored(15) != expected(14))
    1/30/11 9:22:07 AM fontd[101] Failed to open read-only database, regenerating DB
    1/30/11 9:22:11 AM com.apple.fontd[101] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 9:22:13 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[111]) Exited with exit code: 1
    1/30/11 9:22:19 AM com.apple.WindowServer[69] Sun Jan 30 09:22:19 Troy-Lindstroms-MacBook.local WindowServer[69] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
    1/30/11 9:22:26 AM com.apple.fontd[101] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 9:22:26 AM [0x0-0x9009].com.skype.skype[116] Main starting with pid 116 parent pid 89
    1/30/11 9:22:28 AM Skype[116] SkypeApplication::init called
    1/30/11 10:33:53 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] (com.apple.AirPortBaseStationAgent[113]) Exited: Killed
    1/30/11 10:34:02 AM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
    1/30/11 10:34:26 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    1/30/11 10:34:26 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[79] ALF error: cannot find useragent 1102
    1/30/11 10:34:26 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[79] plugin.UserEventAgentFactory: called with typeID=FC86416D-6164-2070-726F-70735C216EC0
    1/30/11 10:34:28 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[107]) Exited with exit code: 1
    1/30/11 10:34:32 AM [0x0-0x8008].com.skype.skype[112] Main starting with pid 112 parent pid 86
    1/30/11 10:34:36 AM Skype[112] SkypeApplication::init called
    1/30/11 3:37:45 PM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
    1/30/11 3:50:19 PM com.apple.fontd[68] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 3:50:19 PM com.apple.WindowServer[69] Sun Jan 30 15:50:19 Troy-Lindstroms-MacBook.local WindowServer[69] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
    1/30/11 3:50:21 PM com.apple.fontd[68] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 3:50:52 PM com.apple.coreservicesd[45] ThrottleProcessIO: throttling disk i/o
    1/30/11 3:53:14 PM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[80] ALF error: cannot find useragent 1102
    1/30/11 3:53:14 PM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[80] plugin.UserEventAgentFactory: called with typeID=FC86416D-6164-2070-726F-70735C216EC0
    1/30/11 3:53:14 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[90] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    1/30/11 3:53:15 PM fontd[101] Database content version mismatch (stored(15) != expected(14))
    1/30/11 3:53:18 PM com.apple.coreservicesd[45] ThrottleProcessIO: throttling disk i/o
    1/30/11 3:53:20 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[90] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[109]) Exited with exit code: 1
    1/30/11 4:00:53 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[90] (com.apple.AirPortBaseStationAgent[111]) Exited: Killed
    1/30/11 4:12:07 PM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
    1/30/11 4:12:56 PM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[81] ALF error: cannot find useragent 1102
    1/30/11 4:12:56 PM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[81] plugin.UserEventAgentFactory: called with typeID=FC86416D-6164-2070-726F-70735C216EC0
    1/30/11 4:12:56 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    1/30/11 4:12:59 PM fontd[101] Database content version mismatch (stored(15) != expected(14))
    1/30/11 4:12:59 PM fontd[101] Failed to open read-only database, regenerating DB
    1/30/11 4:13:06 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[111]) Exited with exit code: 1
    1/30/11 4:13:15 PM com.apple.fontd[101] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 4:13:21 PM com.apple.fontd[101] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/30/11 4:13:21 PM [0x0-0x9009].com.skype.skype[116] Main starting with pid 116 parent pid 89
    1/30/11 4:13:23 PM Skype[116] SkypeApplication::init called
    1/30/11 5:12:33 PM com.apple.WindowServer[69] Sun Jan 30 17:12:33 Troy-Lindstroms-MacBook.local WindowServer[69] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
    1/30/11 5:12:34 PM com.apple.RemoteUI[169] CoreAnimation: rendering error 501
    1/30/11 5:12:46 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] ([0x0-0x9009].com.skype.skype[116]) Exited: Terminated
    1/30/11 5:12:49 PM com.apple.RemoteUI[169] HTTP2 Streaming Reads ON
    1/30/11 5:13:12 PM System Preferences[175] .scriptSuite warning for result type of command 'timedLoad' in suite 'SystemPreferences': the type NSNumber ('long') doesn't match the result Apple event code ('doub').
    1/31/11 12:17:59 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.aslmanager) Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    1/31/11 12:54:05 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] ([0x0-0x18018].com.apple.Safari[180]) Exited: Terminated
    1/31/11 1:31:00 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[89] (com.apple.AirPortBaseStationAgent[113]) Exited: Killed
    1/31/11 1:31:24 AM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
    1/31/11 1:33:28 AM com.apple.fontd[66] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/31/11 1:33:29 AM com.apple.WindowServer[67] Mon Jan 31 01:33:29 Troy-Lindstroms-MacBook.local WindowServer[67] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
    1/31/11 1:33:31 AM com.apple.fontd[66] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/31/11 1:33:48 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[76] ALF error: cannot find useragent 1102
    1/31/11 1:33:48 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[76] plugin.UserEventAgentFactory: called with typeID=FC86416D-6164-2070-726F-70735C216EC0
    1/31/11 1:33:48 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    1/31/11 1:33:50 AM fontd[96] Database content version mismatch (stored(15) != expected(14))
    1/31/11 1:33:54 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[105]) Exited with exit code: 1
    1/31/11 1:34:13 AM com.apple.coreservicesd[44] ThrottleProcessIO: throttling disk i/o
    1/31/11 1:34:13 AM com.apple.coreservicesd[44] ThrottleProcessIO: throttling disk i/o
    1/31/11 1:44:00 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.AirPortBaseStationAgent[107]) Exited: Killed
    1/31/11 1:44:10 AM com.apple.launchd[1] * launchd[1] has started up. *
    1/31/11 1:44:43 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    1/31/11 1:44:43 AM fontd[95] Database content version mismatch (stored(15) != expected(14))
    1/31/11 1:44:43 AM fontd[95] Failed to open read-only database, regenerating DB
    1/31/11 1:44:44 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[79] ALF error: cannot find useragent 1102
    1/31/11 1:44:44 AM com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[79] plugin.UserEventAgentFactory: called with typeID=FC86416D-6164-2070-726F-70735C216EC0
    1/31/11 1:44:45 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[86] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[108]) Exited with exit code: 1
    1/31/11 1:44:45 AM com.apple.fontd[95] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/31/11 1:44:57 AM com.apple.fontd[95] FODBCheck: foRec->annexNumber != kInvalidAnnexNumber (0)
    1/31/11 1:44:58 AM [0x0-0x8008].com.skype.skype[112] Main starting with pid 112 parent pid 86
    1/31/11 1:45:00 AM Skype[112] SkypeApplication::init called
    1/31/11 2:00:28 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.suhelperd[141]) Exited with exit code: 2
    Can anyone see the issue or tell me what I need to do to fix this thing???

    Which MacBook model? Did it come with OSX 10.6 or did you upgrade it?

  • Need advice on Repairing Disk Permissions...

    I need some input from those who know how to Repair Disk Permissions (under Disk Utility, for those who don't know).
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    Hi phasmatrope!
    TO REPAIR PERMISSIONS ON THE STARTUP DISK
    1.Open Disk Utility, located in Applications/Utilities, and select the startup disk HAL, in the left column.
    2.Click First Aid.
    3.Click Verify Disk Permissions to test permissions or Repair Disk Permissions to test and repair permissions. (I never "Verify". Just run "Repair".)
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    There may be others that you can ignore. Complete lists at link below.
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    ali b

  • Apple: Repair "Repair Disk Permissions"

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    Message was edited by: Peter Inova1
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  • Rationale for Repairing Disk Permissions

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    cornelius
    Message was edited by: cornelius

    Hi cornelius,
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    mac.column.ted: Unravelling the Repair Disk Permissions controversy
    "Ted Landau
    May 2006
    Repairing Disk Permissions. Not exactly a topic that you would expect to spark much controversy. Yet, surprisingly, it is the focal point of a rather heated debate.
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  • Constantly repairing disk permissions for Spotlight to work

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    whiskey sour wrote:
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    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1634

  • Verifying/Repairing Disk Permissions

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    Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
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  • Problem repairing disk permissions

    Hey all, I'm trying to help a friend with a sick macbook I think it's a pro, but I definitely know he's running OS 10.5.
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