Repair permissions always via install dvd?

Seems that always when I repair permissions (I do it once a week and with every major install) there are the same permissions that are "wrong" every time. And the list seems to get longer.
I always repair just by starting Disk Utility and repairing - without booting from the install dvd. Is that wrong? Should I really do the repair permissions always from the dvd? (Like the app seems to suggest.)
Is there any use doing the task just from the active system or is it really useless?
Please tell me the "most pro way of cleaning up my system".
And as former PC Windows user - why is there no "Find disk errors" type of app? Does Repair Permissions repair disk errors as well?
Thanks for advice!

Hello-
I don't claim to be a 'tech expert' but my understandings seem to work for me. If I'm wrong, I'd be just as interested in other opinions as yourself, so FWIW;
Seems that always when I repair permissions (I do it
once a week and with every major install) there are
the same permissions that are "wrong" every time. And
the list seems to get longer.
The list you see doesn't mean that anything was wrong, just set to something other than what the original permissions called for. If there is a problem you will usually get a red listing indicating a failure of some sort. Although the value of arbitrarily repairing once a week if no OS/app installs or upgrades is questioned by many, the consenus opinion seems to be "it can't hurt".
I always repair just by starting Disk Utility and
repairing - without booting from the install dvd. Is
that wrong? Should I really do the repair permissions
always from the dvd? (Like the app seems to
suggest.)
As I understand it, you are doing the right thing. Some rather knowledgeable folks actually say this is the 'better' way because your version of the OS has most likely been updated to something newer than what's on the Install CD. IOW, you should Repair Disk Permissions based on the same OS version you are repairing.
Please tell me the "most pro way of cleaning up my
system".
There really isn't that much that needs to be done other than following the suggested 'proactive' approach pertaining to perm. repair, standard cache maintenance (if you run your system 24/7 it's automatic, or you can run the routines manually if your comfortable with Terminal. Otherwise, a utility like OnyX -free- is readily available.)
As long as you aren't constantly downloading, installing & removing every piece of junk you can get your mouse on you should be OK.
And as former PC Windows user - why is there no "Find
disk errors" type of app? Does Repair Permissions
repair disk errors as well?
Repair Perms doesn't, but the OS does a much better job than Windows, which needs such a utility because it creates the errors in the first place. Disk Utility does include a Repair Disk function which requires starting up from a different boot disk, but it doesn't need to be used as a matter of 'routine' maintenance.
In the event you do run into problems, these Discussions are one of the most invaluable resources available to you. Don't hesitate to ask & you'll get some excellent advice & guidance on any situation you may encounter. Just wait for considered responses before taking any response at face value.
Regards |:>)

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Maybe this is dumb, but what do you mean by don't believe the hype on permissions repair.
are you talking about the posting I read about not being able to continuously update and boot from the original OS disks, or that repairing permissions is overated as far as system maintanence.
I get a lot of conflicting advise on system maintanence. Thats why I ask this. I'm fairly new to macs and how to keep them going problem free.
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he's already paid. (And is Disk Utility so hard to
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function?)
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Bryan:
Don
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Mrs H wrote:
Each time I do a Repair Permissions after doing an installation (in this case Security 008 update for Intel on my MBP) the same permissions always are repaired and ONLY these. Here's the report I always get:
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Thanks,
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When I run Disk Utility and Repair Disk permission, there is always something to repair. No matter if I run twice, is this normal?
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Hi Bob,
Those aren't changes, those are just informational messages. You'll noticed that it does not say "Permissions are wrong" or "Permissions have been changed," which it what you'll get when there is an actual permissions problem.
Here's a Knowledge Base article that explains it:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107298
At one time there was a sticky post that said, in huge bold letters, "'We are using special permissions' message can be ignored" (or something to that effect). Personally, I wish they'd remove the informational message from the repair permissions routine, just for all the confusion it causes....
HTH!

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