Repeat Delta bringing previous delta too

Hi BIs,
SAP system sometimes acting strangely by bringing Current days delta + previous days delta when Delta Info package was requested again.In Monitor it is displaying as Repeat delta only.
This strange behavior is occuring once in a while and not evry time
Could any one tell me why it is behaving like this,if so any possible ways to avoid this
Thanks and regards
Bala

HI ,
generally if you make the delta request red and then repeat it that only will set your init pointer ..
but i think there is some problem with the init pointer setting .. so can try one thing run once init without data transfer that will set you init flag .. and run your deltas... this might solve your problem ..
Regards,
shikha

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Hi,
We have got all delta datasources, during last month-end, we found some delta records are missing. What could be the best approach to bring back those missed records. but those records are huge.
What is the best solution? Is Re-initialization with out data transfer? or full load for those dates by undeleting the current requests after those dates?
Thanks in Advance,
Suman

Hi ,
You can delete the setup table and re-fill it , then If you know the document numbers of those records or creation date , etc , you can give those in the selection and load the repair full load for those missed records.
If the V3 job is active then it will fill the delta queue with the recent data , so that the previous delta cannot be pulled.
regards,
karthik.

Is it mandatory to delte all the previous delta request.

Hi Gurus,
I got strucked up with the following issue. Please help
We have two infocubes called regional and global cubes.
We are loading data from regional infocube in to global info cube through delta update.
But the values did not tied up. so I ran the INIT and loaded the data succesfully. Now Is it mandatory to delte all the previous delta request which are already loaded in to the global infocube.

Hi,
You need to delete the data from cube and need to do init accrodingly load the data.
Thanks & Regards,
Ramnaresh.

Which field changes will bring the delta into BW

Hi,
On which field changes the delta will bring data into SAP BW. let us say if you bring the data from 2LIS_13_VDITM, any key figure changes in VF02 will bring the data? Only few characterstic changes it will bring the delta data. What and all those characterstics for delta identifies?
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i am new to OWB , please help me in
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Direct delta and Qued delta.............

Hi Gurus !
Both Direct delta and Qued delta in LO are independent of the success of the V2 Update process( Roberto Negro too mentioned this in his weblog).This means that V2 update Exists both in Direct and qued delta( Am I correct?).
As the data is written in the Delta que within V1 Update
for the case of direct delta, in Extraction que in Qued delta , where does the V2 Update come into the Picture?
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Durai

Hi !
I am very eager to know the answer.
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Delta Initialization vs Delta Update

We're having some issues with performance when loading our GL cube. What I would like to do is perform many delta initializations, each delta inititialization containing one month/period.
My confusion is in the fact that the last time I attempted this, when I subsequently went to run my delta UPDATE the same selection criteria was automatically inserted into my delta update.
So for example my INIT may look like this;
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REQUEST2: Selection = 002.2005
etc........etc...
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Next the UPDATE info package seems to inherit the same criteria... doesn't this mean it will not update anything beyond that criteria??
I'm just wondering if it is possible to do an incremental initialization and still be able to enable delta updates for future periods?
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Hi Patrick,
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/80/1a65dce07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/content.htm
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R/3 extraction.{direct delta and queued delta and V3}

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I am new to BW.Can anyone explain me about R/3 extraction in detail and steps to extract from R/3 to BW.
I understood direct delta.But i couldn't understand queued delta.Can anyone please explain queued delta and also V3.Are queued delta and V3 same?
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Sunny.

Hi Sunny,
Procurement - MM :
MM is a part of SCM. There are several section in this, say Procurement, manufacturing, vendor evaluation etc... All can be found under follwoing link.
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LO'S Procedure:
Go to transaction code RSA3 and see if any data is available related to your DataSource. If data is there in RSA3 then go to transaction code LBWG (Delete Setup data) and delete the data by entering the application name.
Go to transaction SBIW --> Settings for Application Specific Datasource --> Logistics --> Managing extract structures --> Initialization --> Filling the Setup table --> Application specific setup of statistical data --> perform setup (relevant application)
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Re: LO-Cockpit V1 and V2 update
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328
Also Refer this link:
http://www.sap-img.com/business/lo-cockpit-step-by-step.htm
Inventory.. dwload go thru it
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328
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1st delet the septup table----lbwg(for application 3)(need to cleanup the setup tables in r/3 side by using (LBWG for AC:03)
1) Fill setup table (fill up the set up tables BX, BF and UM by using (MCNB,OLI1BW and OLIZBW).
for BX(Open stock)-tcode--MCNB,
for BF Tcode(oli1bw)
for UM tcode(olizbw)
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/29/79eb3cad744026e10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/c5/a26f37eb997866e10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
SD - Enterprise Sales and Distribution
SD comes under CRM application component (ERP Analytics).
sd flow
salesorder:
VBRK - header
VBAP - item
VBEP - scheduling
delivery:
LIKP - header
LIPS - item
billing:
VBRK - header
VBRP - item
shipement
VTTK - header
VTTP - item
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salesarea data general data companycode data
knvp kna1 knb1
material master data
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A goodsissue updating MKPF & MSEG.
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save + activate....
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transactional data
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/c5/bbe737a294946fe10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/17/cd5e407aa4c44ce10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
Check these links,
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http://www.sapbrain.com/TUTORIALS/FUNCTIONAL/SD_tutorial.html
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/MYSAP/SR_MM.pdf
http://sap-img.com/materials/what-is-the-dataflow-of-mm.htm
http://www.erpgenie.com/abap/tables_sd.htm
http://www.erpgenie.com/abap/tables_mm.htm
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/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/23/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-two-v3-update-when-some-problems-can-occur
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/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/02/14/logistic-cockpit--when-you-need-more--first-option-enhance-it
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http://www.sap-img.com/business/lo-cockpit-step-by-step.htm
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I'm developing a FM to extract data from R3. I wonder if anybody knows how to catch when i'm making a delta initialization and a delta update in my FM, because i have different parameters and routines from each one.
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Points for helpfull answers.

Hi,
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Hi,
Direct delta :extraction data is directly loading into BW Delta queue.
Does this deltas will be loading BW delta queue or SMQ1?
In BW where it will be loading as first step and how abt Queue delta mechanism?

hi,
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