Repetitive Manufacturing Profiles
Hi Experts,
i have a question about REM profile:
in the repetitive manufacturing profile (REM profile) that we want to post activities,
what was the difference beetwen standard cost estimate for material and preliminary cost estimate for the product cost collector in sales order related production,
what is the result of each selection in sales order related production and which setting is recommended for this case,
I would be highly appriciated if you can respond in detail.
Your help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Azam
Dear Azam,
1. If in the REM profile if the radio button is selected against standard cost estimate,then while doing
backflushing the system picks up the standard cost estimate of the material from the material master and
confirmations are made & variances are calculated.That's CK40N is to be carried out periodically.
If there's no standard cost estimate for a material means then you cant do the confirmation in MFBF.
2. If in the REM profile if the radio button is selected against preliminary cost estimate means while creating
the product cost collector for a material and saving means then based on this cost itself confirmations can
be made in MFBF,no need to carryout the costing run in CK40N.You can see any standard cost of the
material in the material master in costing 2 view.
3. In the case of Make to Order scenario as per to my knowledge based on preliminary cost estimate it self
we can do the confirmation.
4. Please check these links [Standard Price with Valuated Sales Order Stocks |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/90/ba63e7446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]
[Example for Valuated Sales Order Stock Without Product Cost by Sales Order: Quantity and Value Flow |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/90/ba63e7446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]
[Product Cost Collectors in Sales-Order-Related Production |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/90/ba63e7446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]
Regards
Mangalraj.S
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Steps are as,
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