Replace SONET/SDH over ATM cards

SONET circuit prices are a deal that we can't refuse. Looking to replace ATM-oc3/CES modules in the 7206VXR with the PA-POS-OC3SMI and t1 cards. Has anyone done this before? Order a noncatenated STM1 for 3 voice t1's and the rest IP data?
Thanks

Brad,
You'll be stranding 25/28 of the STS-1 you use for voice T1's. You could benefit from a low-end SONET platform that features Low Order Virtual Concatenation. This will allow transport of several T1's while using the rest of that STS, and the other empty STS's, for data transport. The Cisco ONS 15310 does this nicely. It has just begun shipping, and its ethernet card will be available in April.
Hope this helps.

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I have done some reading around SONET, DWDM, Metro ethernet etc. but i am still struggling to understand a few basics i think.
I appreciate that Sonet/SDH can run over DWDM but i believe you can also run ethernet natively over DWDM.
If you were building a new optical network from scratch would you consider utilising SONET/SDH and if so what would be the reasoning behind it.
I guess where my confusion comes from is there is Ethernet over Sonet, Packet over Sonet etc. but are these technologies there simply because there is such a large installed base of Sonet/SDH or is there another reason eg. Sonet/SDH provide far more reliability for packet transfer with the ability to guarantee delays etc.
Any insights would be much appreciated
Jon

1. Yes, take a deep dive into the ONS15454 documentation. We have been running gig/e over dwdm for about 5 years.
2. Yes, but for very specific uses. For example a metro based environment is well suited to sonet/dwdm topologies, Data center to data center links that require high capacity and recoverability (see the stuff on APS in sonet).
3. IMHO SONET provides the basis for branching into Ethernet over sonet etc...given the frame size, error correction, in band management its a great technology for High availability/Bandwidth. the ability to run ethernet keeps you from having to buy very expensive POS line cards.

Welcome to the MPLS over ATM Discussion

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This is easily done with dial peer statements . The dial peer in your originating router must route the calls to the terminating router first. That would look like :
dial-peer voice xxxxx voip ( the xxxxx is just a tag)
destination-pattern 45... (that would route any 5-digit calls beginning with 45)
session-target ipv4:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (ip address of the terminating router)
If digitones are to be dialed after the connection is established, use the statement:
dtmf-relay-h.245-alphanumeric
You could also use a statement to specify the codec to be used:
codec g711ulaw
You would need multiple voip dial peers if the calls were going to different routers based on the dialed digits. If all calls are sent to the same terminating router, use all wild cards in the dest-pattern statement.
At the terminating router configure pots dial peers:
dial-peer voice xxxxx pots
dest-pattern 45...
port x/x (whichever port the call is to be terminated on)
prefix 45 (this re-inserts matched digits which are stripped off by the pots dp)
Repeat for other ports which will receive calls.
Paul

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Your credit or debit card credentials must be associated with the same country where you reside.
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I want to write a java program interacting with IP over ATM network, please can I use URL the same to API for IP, example : openConnection().
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Abdeltif.

If your code only needs to manipulate IP functions, then the ATM layer should be transparent. The URL class, Socket class, etc. shouldn't care whether the IP is over Frame Relay, ATM, etc. Some ISPs buy ATM connections so your Internet connectivity might be riding over ATM.

MPLS VPNs alongwith T1 and sub-rate SONET/SDH connections

Hi,
I know this question might seem out of place in this particular forum, I apologize for that.
We currently offer MPLS VPN services on my Cisco 7600 platform with supported FE/GE modules.
Coming to my question, can I offer DS0/T1 services without adding a new optical (SONET/SDH) box and on the same 7600 (I have enough slots available)
I was thinking of this particular module for delivering the required additional services:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/install_config/12.2SX_OSM_config/Prtn.html
and
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/install_config/12.2SX_OSM_config/crns.html
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I would request for some inputs w.r.t. stability and/or other factors I should consider before I start to seriously think of them as an alternative option instead of going for separate Optical devices.
P.S.: This is not MPLS VPNs on subrate interfaces but subrate/T1 'IPLC' service by itself.
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~sultan

No, you will need to put an additional module to support DS0/T1 services on your 7600. Following link may help you
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I try to use a atm card but I cant get the CC membership, can I pay by phone_

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TS3297 Itunes wont except new ATM card. Eventhough its works on other sites. Dont get it.

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Configuring CE-PE link on Frame Relay over ATM

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Need you guys expert opinion on how to configure configuring CE-PE link on Frame Relay over ATM. I am stump by this one because I never done it before. The CE is a Cisco 7206 with ATM PA and the parameters given to us is DLCI number in x/y format...isn't that the format for PVC. When asked, my SP contact says that it is indeed FR over ATM. Any of you guys who have experience to guide on this or point me in the right direction is most welcome. Thanks
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Helme

Hello Helme,
ask your provider if they are doing FR to ATM service interworking.
In that case one side is configured for Frame-Relay and the other side for ATM
Service interworking is done by provider.
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enc aal5snap
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SONET/SDH network monitoring

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We are starting to deploy a new SONET/SDH network, but we haven't realy thought about deploying monitoring until now. The problem is that we don't have too much experience either, so we don't quite know what we should start monitoring and what is mandatory to monitor.
Can anybody with a bit of experience in SONET/SDH tell me what they are monitoring, or what the big operators are monitoring ussualy to ensure a good SLA to their customers.
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Keep an eye on the ES, CV-L and the CV-P. Of course the CV-L will show a whole facility in trouble and a CV-P will show a particular STS in trouble. However the Path alarms can be deceiving if provisioned between optical interfaces and the signal has not been applied (channalized OC-x).
The ES (errored seconds) can give you an indication of the health of a link, normally it should always be zeros; as a problem starts to creep in you will notice an error just every now and then, and as the days go by they will increase. So if you can watch for patterens it is possible to catch a trouble before it becoms too bad.
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Mpls over atm ppp over aal5

Hi,
Does cisco support mpls over atm-ppp-llc
per RFC 2354(PPP over AAL5).
Something like a scenario if Cisco acts as a PE and it gets frames with mpls over atm-ppp-llc from a connected CE ,is it supported in cisco , or it will drop the frames ?
Running mpls over ce-pe link is mandatory for the specific scenario.
Thanks
Thanks in advance

Hello,
The MPLS should be supported also on PPP over AAL5. Simply use the "mpls ip" command on the Virtual-Template or the Dialer interface you are using on top of the ATM VC to set up the PPP interface.
The 3640 with proper IOS can support the PE functions. The Enterprise feature sets should be equipped with all features necessary to provide a PE router functionality - basically, the VRF, MPLS, LDP, MPLS VPN support, BGP, BGP VPNv4 support, IGP protocols with VRF support and that should be sufficient.
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Peter

MPLS over ATM - VP Tunnel (cell) or VC (frame)?

Does anybody use the MPLS over VP tunnel with the Cisco 8540 ATM MPLS core? Is it a stable solution or one should better leave the ATM MPLS cell mode and convert to frame mode over ATM?

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MPLS over ATM encapsulation

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During I was doing an MPLS interoperability test between our ATM-LER and Cisco 7204 router, I found an implementation difference wrt MPLS over ATM encapsulation between two systems. Our system encapsulates an MPLS packet with null shim label(=0), while Cisco router does it with non-null shim label(!= 0), I guest it may be a VCD value that is internally used in Cisco system. I think that an MPLS over ATM packet should be encapsulated with null label value in the top shim header in accordance with RFC 3035 described below.
"If the packet has a label stack with n entries, it MUST carry a shim with n entries. The actual value of the top label is encoded in the VPI/VCI field. The label value of the top entry in the shim (which is just a "placeholder" entry) MUST be set to 0 upon transmission, and MUST be ignored upon reception. The packet's outgoing TTL, and its CoS, are carried in the TTL and CoS fields respectively of the top stack entry in the shim."
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Best regards,
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No, I'm NOT requesting a new feature, but talking about compliance with
the MPLS standard, RFC 3035, "MPLS using LDP and ATM VC Switching". What I'm saying is that Cisco router sends an MPLS packet on LC-ATM interface with a VCD (some sort of connection identifer in Cisco router) value set on the top-of-stack label, while the standard specifies the top-of-stack label should be used only for a placeholder and thus MUST be set to '0'. To my best knowledge, most of edge ATM-LSR systems set the top label value to '0' in accordance with RFC 3035. If the ingress edge ATM-LSR (Cisco) forwards an MPLS packet with non-zero label on the top-of-stack, then the egress ATM-LSR has two choices, one is just to ignore the non-zero label value, (causing no problem), the other is to discard the MPLS packet because the top-of-stack label should have been zero and non-zero is invalid. If any implementation selects the latter option, it may not be possible to interoperate with Cisco system through LC-ATM interface.
Regards,
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Replace SONET/SDH over ATM cards

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