Replacing BO Enterprise XI 3.1 with SAP BO EDGE 3.1 standard

Hi
We need to migrate away from large enterprice environment to smaller business unit. BO Enterprise XI is too heavy and expensive to future needs so I am looking for a possible other versions of BO. My knowledge from BO limits to basics on Crystal Reports 2011 and Crystal Server 2011 so I need help.
This is the information I have from Enterprise
Data integrator
ETL tool for importing data to data warehouse
Design tool for import from different data sources
SSIS/BO repository
Repository database for Data integrator
Tasks for loading of SSIS packages are started from this server
Plan is to use the same format of data on data warehouse (MS SQL) as well existing universes
BO Data Integrator XI release 2 is used to create the data werehouse
I have asked suggestion from a licence dealer and got suggestion to use SAP BO EDGE 3.1 Standard.
This should have same functionalities. It lack the support for clustering and user amount is more limited.
New user amount is more or less 5 so it will not be a problem
Is the EDGE version able to work with already developed data warehouse and imports?

It's unclear from which exact deployment you're downsizing.
In the title you're saying Xi3.1 enterprise, but in the body you're talking about Data Integrator Xi R2.
Which are 2 different versions and 2 diferent products.
If you're downsizing from Xi3.1 enteprise, you can go to Xi3.1 Edge standard. and it should be relatively painless. If you have single server, you can probably simply change the license key and that's it.
If you're going from XIR2 DI, you need to migrate to Xi3.1 level Data Integrator first. Can't just switch.
Xi3.1 Edge has some versions which include Data Integraor as well, I think. Not sure if Edge standard has DI in it or not, you need to double check with the dealer.
I think there is a Data Services/Data Integrator space here in SCN, where you can get more details on that part of your change.

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>
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> through BC.
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>
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/people/paul.medaille/blog/2005/11/17/more-on-the-sap-conversion-agent-by-itemfield
http://www.stylusstudio.com/edi/XML_to_X12.html
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/b0b355ae-0501-0010-3b83-8f2bb566fa47
Seeburger EDI Adapter provides an EDI solution on internet via HTTP or AS2 to replace the expensive VAN. It provides some pre-built mappings for IDOC to ANSI X12(810,850,855,856 etc.,) and Idoc to EDIFACT(ORDERS,DESADV,INVOIC etc.,) and has the ability to build your own. These pre-defined mappings transform the IDOC-XML to EDI-XML format.
These transformed EDI-XML messages are then converted to EDI specific format using the Seeburger's BIC(Business Integration Converter)adapter. In addition, Seeburger provides adapters like AS2,FTP(EDI specific) and so on to route these EDI messages to external EDI Partners.
For more i would suggest you to go through these links:
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
Seeburger EDI Adapter leverages SAP XI's Adapter Framework. This Adapter is used to perform conversion between EDI and XML format. It also provides some canned EDI layouts and the ability to build your own. It is used to transfer the EDI message via HTTP or AS2 protocols.
The most direct way of using the Seeburger adapters is to configure the BIC as a module. There is a software component from seeburger called bicmapper which will allow you to do the following:
1. define or import the inbound message metadefinition in various formats ( edifact, xml,...)
2. using a mapping create an xml variant as the output metadefinition or edifact in the other direction.
3. create a one to one mapping between input en output.
4. export the metadata in xsd or sda format for import in XI.
5. generate an SDA which can be deployed in XI and used as a module.
Please go through the following links which clearly explains what you want and it also helps you in understanding the same in depth:
http://www.seeburger.com
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
There are also a few ways to use EDI with the ALE system of R3.
inbound EDI to R3
1.use a 3rd party adapter for the EDI protocol(eg.SEEBURDER) from the EDI system,send the produced XML to the XI ,map the xml message to a matching IDoc using the IDoc adapter.
outbound ALE message from R3 to EDI system
1. Configure the ALE system to point to the XI the relevant IDoc (SM59,WE21,WE20...)
2.use a file adapter3rd party EDI adapter and map the fields to the target structure.
have a look at this example:
http://www.ean.se/EANCOM%202000/iftmin/example.htm
Details on how to configure can be found on SDN
I hope this helps....
Regards,
Abhy

How to use CMS Users with SAP BOPC NW 7.5

Hello,
I have problems importing and using CMS Users with BO PC 7.5 NW.
I am trying two types of CMS-users
1. CMS Enterprise Users created in CMS and using "Enterprise" authentication
2. SAP BW Users imported into CMS using their SAP authentication "secSAPR3")
but both don't work:
In the BOPC Admin Client, I can succesfully select Security->Users->"Add new Users". Both CMS "Enterprise Users" and CMS Users that use SAP authentication are displayed in the "Everyone" Group.
The CMS Enterprise Users are displayed as <username>, e.g. "Miller".
The CMS users with sap authentication are displayed as <SAPSystem><Client>/<SAPusername>, e.g. "KBE100/Smith".
Now If I try to import a user...
1. CMS Enterprise Users
If can successfully import CMS Enterprise Users and add them to the ADMIN Team, e.g. "Miller".
The problem is they can't be used to log in to the Admin Client and Excel Client:
E.g. I enterUser-ID "Miller" and his CMS-Enterprise-password under password after starting Excel Client, an error message shows up: "The UserID, Password or Domain cannot be authenticated. Go back and make sure you entered valid credentials" ... (same error message as if the user wouldn't exist/wrong pw.).
Seems the user wasn't added as BO PC user. Or do I need to use any prefix before the "user ID" for CMS Enterprise users in the User_ID field instead of just "Miller"?!
2. CMS Users which use SAP-authentication (users imported into CMS from BW and use SAP-authentication)
In the BO PC Admin Client, I can't import them: I go through "1. User Setup" select "KBE~100/Smith", "2. User Detail", "3. Assignments", but if I am in "4. Finish" and click on "Apply", the following error shows up:
"Failed to create directory \root\Webfolders\<AppSetName>\<Appname>" for "KBE~100/Smith".
My guess is that the operating system doesn't like the "/" in the Username - but I guess this can't be changed bc. these Users from CMS and are already displayed with the "/" between SAPSystemID~ClientNummer and username in the User-list in BOPC Admin Client!
side remark: if I create a SAP CMS Enterprise user which contains a "/" in the username (on pupose ), I am getting the same error message.
Any help, explanations and workarounds are greatly appreciated - Any solution will be awarded with maximum points!
Best Regards and thanks a lot for your help!

Hi Florian,
The problem seems indeed the file system on the bw not being able to handle "/". The automatic user import from the bw role into the CMC does not give you an option to replace the "/" character with anything else.
This should solve it:
- Go to the CMC double click the user. Delete the server part "KBE100/" and click save. Make sure the default system is set to "KBE100". The user should now be able to login from BPC with the user Smith.
Good luck,
Martin

Log on to Infoview with SAP authentication

Hi Gurus ,
Please can some one provide me documentation , to configure , Infoview with SAP authentication .
I have R/3 system where i have a datasource and then one Remote cube in BW . On the cube developed a BEx Query . I want to log into Infoview using SAP authentication .Now, i am able to login into Infoview using Enterprise as authentication .
Thanks ,
Madhu .

Hi Madhu,
You can go to help SAP and download the BusinessObjects SAP Kit manual, here is the link for SAP BusinessObjects products. [http://help.sap.com/content/bobj/bobj/index.htm]
Link for BusinessObjects XI Integration for SAP Installation Guide (XI3.1SP2) [https://websmp105.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000843912009E/xi31_sp2_bip_sap_install.pdf]
Link for BusinessObjects XI Integration for SAP User's Guide (XI3.1SP2) [http://help.sap.com/businessobject/product_guides/boexir31SP2/en/xi31_sp2_bip_sap_user_en.pdf]
I hope this help you.
Best regards,
Fede

Integrating with SAP SRM 4.0

Hi all,
I'm currently involved in an e-procurement project that will have to integrate SAP SRM 4.0 with the EAI solution of our company (webMethods).
As I don't know much about SRM 4.0 technology, I'd like to know the standard way of integration with SRM 4.0:
- Is SRM 4.0 capable of exposing IDocs?
- Is SRM 4.0 capable of invoking BAPIs?
- If so, how can a Purchase Order put into the arguments of the BAPI?
- Is SRM 4.0 compelled to talk with XML messages (particularly SOAP XI) or are IDocs and BAPIs a suitable solution?
- Is SRM 4.0 standard output xCBL?
- Can SRM 4.0 expose and invoke Web Services natively?
In other words, I'd like to know whether we are obliged to use the XI Content of SRM 4.0 in order to integrate with webMethods. We have already done integration with R/3 4.6 and we used IDocs with the SAP Adapter. We would like to capitalize on our previous experience and save us from having to assess the feasibility of an integration with SRM via XI.
Thank you in advance for all your answers.
Regards,
/ML

Hi Marcel,
Underlying technology is WAS (Web Application Server) which is an enhanced version of the middleware BASIS technology used by 46C. XI is a replacement for messaging platforms like webmethods, so if you are using webmethods with SAP adaptor you don't need to use XI because you are already using a messaging platform. Only reason you may want to use XI would be if you can build upon the XI content available to you. If you are not interested in the XI content then go ahead and use webmethods using SAP adaptor to connect to SRM. I don't see any problem in that.
Regards,
Sanjeev

Problem in CMC login with SAP authentication type

Hi,
We have installed the SAP Integration kit successfully for BO XI R2 & when I logon to CMC i am able to enable the SAP authentication and import the roles from the SAP BW system as well. But when I try to login into CMC using the 'Authentication type' as SAP it doesn't display the textboxes for entering System ID and Client details. Can you please tell me how to fix this?
Also I see that the CMC & Infoview authentication type drop down list are not the same. The CMC has the authentication types available as 'SAP,LDAP & Enterprise' where as Infoview has 'Enterprise, LDAP & AD'.
Is this an issue with the Plugins? do i need to do some settings on the Tomcat ?
Please help me out in this..
Thanks in advance!
Phani.

Thanks for your update Jac...yes thats correct. Also I had to include authPlugExt.properties file in the tomcat/shared/classes, which i did not include previously. The SAP infoview is working fine now.
Just one more question, in CMC login doesn't the SAP authentication require sap system & client id as its inputs? (in XI R2). I noticed that I was able to login with SAP user id's (without mentioning system details) , that have been added when I have imported the SAP roles to BO.

An issue using the COM components supplied with SAP GUI 6.2 or 6.4

We are having an issue using the COM components supplied with SAP GUI 6.2 or 6.4. We used to have SAP 4.6c and now we have 5.0. When we were on 4.6c, we used these COM components to logon and execute RFC calls and we had much success. Now that we are on 5.0, we cant seem to instance any SAP functions that have something to do with SAP Workflow. We have experienced this problem when using VB6 or .NET, but our existing code that always worked is in VB 6.0.
SAP Components used:
o     SAP Logon Control
o     SAP Function Control
o     Librfc32.dll
o     Other supporting C DLLs and/or COM object supplied with the SAP GUI installation.
For example, if we want to call the RFC ARCHIV_CONNECTION_INSERT, this code fails in VB6 when the Set objworkflow = objFuncCtrl.Add(strFunction) line of code executes. Instead of returning an instance of the object ARCHIV_CONNECTION_INSERT function, no object is created. In 6.2, SAP raises no errors, but the object we are trying to create is still Nothing. If we use 6.4, SAP raises an error SAP data type not supported via a message box and then the object is still = Nothing. Interestingly enough, the 6.2 GUI COM controls dont display the error dialog. The message box that is shown comes from the SAP Function COM Object "SAP.Functions" (wdtfuncs.ocx).
Now, what is interesting is if we use the same code to call a standard function or custom function that doesnt have anything to do with SAP Workflow, then the code works fine. Again, all of our code used to work just fine on an SAP 4.6 system.
Here is the code that fails:
    'SAP Logon control - object for creating connections to an SAP system
    Dim objSAPLogonCtrl As Object
    'SAP connection object
    Dim objConnection As Object
    'Object that will represent the SAP function called
    Dim objSAP As Object
    'SAP function control object - object factory for creating other SAP function objects
    Dim objFuncCtrl As Object
    'Create instance of an SAP logon conrol
    Set objSAPLogonCtrl = CreateObject("SAP.Logoncontrol.1")
    'Create a connection object
    Set objConnection = objSAPLogonCtrl.NewConnection
    'Define connecion parameters
    objConnection.ApplicationServer = "sapvm"
    objConnection.SystemNumber = "00"
    objConnection.Client = "800"
    objConnection.User = "iissap"
    objConnection.Password = "tstadm"
    objConnection.Language = "E"
    objConnection.TraceLevel = 10
    'call the logon method of the connection object
    If objConnection.Logon(0, True) = False Then
        MsgBox Error
        Exit Sub
    End If
    'Create an instance of the SAP Function control object
    Set objFuncCtrl = CreateObject("SAP.Functions")
    'Set the function control connection object
    Set objFuncCtrl.Connection = objConnection
    'Function name to be generated and called
    Dim strFunction As String
    strFunction = <b>"ARCHIV_PROCESS_RFCINPUT"</b>
    'Create an instance of the function defined in strFunction
    Set objworkflow = objFuncCtrl.Add(strFunction)
    If objworkflow Is Nothing Then
        MsgBox "Could not create object " & strFunction
    Else
        MsgBox strFunction & " object created."
    End If
If anyone has seen anything like this or has any ideas, please help!
Mike and Hameed
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Hi,
documentation on the Scripting API is available at ftp://ftp.sap.com/pub/sapgui/win/640/scripting/docs/
This API is a replacement of the existing, obsolete COM interfaces.
Best regards,
Christian

Crystal Reports access to SAP/CRM 6.0 with Integration with SAP Solutions

Hello,
we are running Crystal Reports 2008 with SAP CRM 6.0.
To boost productivity or Report writeing we need especially access to:
- Function Modules
- the CRM Business Objects Repository (Transaction SW01).
What kind of SAP/CRM ( or SAP / ERP ) Objects can be accessed with the Integration for
SAP Solutions ?
The BO Documentation [BusinessObjects XI Integration for SAP Solutions User's Guide|http://help.sap.com/businessobject/product_guides/boexir31SP2/en/xi31_sp2_bip_sap_user_en.pdf] does not give a clue if this is possible.
However, Ingo Hilgefort stated in his book that it is at least possible to access ABAP Functions, SAP Querries and SAP InfoSets.
What is the minimum product portfolio and the necessary Version - Can I install the following products stand alone ?
Crystal Reports 2008
Integration for SAP Solutions
Tomcat / Jaco
or
Must I need at minimum BO Edge and must install the CMS Server ?
Thank You
Martin

HI,
What kind of SAP/CRM ( or SAP / ERP ) Objects can be accessed with the Integration for
SAP Solutions ?
here is also a blog about this:
/people/ingo.hilgefort/blog/2008/03/23/businessobjects-and-sap-part-4
However, Ingo Hilgefort stated in his book that it is at least possible to access ABAP Functions, SAP Querries and SAP InfoSets.
>> correct. It is also in the Installation Guide / User Guide for the SAP Integration kit. You can use ABAP Functions, ABAP / SAP Queries, InfoSets, Tables
What is the minimum product portfolio and the necessary Version - Can I install the following products stand alone ?
Crystal Reports 2008
BusinessObjects Integration for SAP Solutions
BusinessObjects Edge or BusinessObjects Enterprise
Ingo

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