Replacing Fans on MEGA PC 865 PRO

Hey, i'm a bit of a newbie to building and modding PCs, i built my mega 865 pro about 8 months ago and i've decided i want it to be quieter as it is right next to my monitor.
i've looked into which fans to buy, and at all of the topics on this forum about this, but i'm still a bit confused.
Can i replace the heatsink fan? If so what size do i need and what connections i.e. 3-pin...?
Also there are 2 fans at the back of my pc, one seems to be connected to the PSU the other is a case fan of size 80mm x 25mm. Again what type of plug would i need for this?
Is it possible to replace the PSU fan? As it seems to me to be pretty well secured inside its own little box thing.
Any help would be appreciated
Timmo

I'd go water cooling if you want silence....

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