Replacing tracks saving Metadata

I may have an ugly problem to solve. I ripped, split, imported, converted to MP3 and added metadata for about 100 old LPs before discovering a great little piece of software called ClickRepair. Fortunately, I still had a copy of my single long file from recording the LPs so I ran them through the cleaner, split and named the tracks, and am now ready to move the new clean files into iTunes. They will need converstion to MP3 somewhere along the line.
I am not at all sure of a work flow here other than to delete everything I have in iTunes, import the new AIFFs, convert to MP3, and add in all the metadata, album art etc. I am hoping there is a short cut... like converting everything to MP3 and simply copying in the new files over the old ones... file names would need to match.
Powerbook G4 and Mirror Door Mac OS X (10.4.6) Win 2K on generic box sad but true

A few scripts are available for (temporary) storing or copying tag info.
This one might be useful.
More scripts are available at that website.
Hope this helps.
M
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Il giorno 17/mar/2014, alle ore 13:19, Tony Jay <[email protected]> ha scritto:
Re: "not known error system" saving metadata
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Hi welcome.
Are you able to furnish information about which files metadata is being saved - RAW files (XMP sidecar files in reality), JPEG, TIFF, PSD etc?
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ChiefKRB a écrit:
When making changes to the metadata only in PSE editor, does saving the changes to the original jpg file result in any image degradation? Is there a better program you can recommend to modify metadata information, especially to multiple files?
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