Reporting on ods

Hi,
I have two questions:
1> If reporting is done on an ODS then which table of ODS is used to get data?
I guess data is retrived from "ACTIVE" table.
2> If ODS is used as an infosource then for updating takes place from which table?
I think it is "Change Log".
So can any one inform me wether i am right or not?
Regards,
Rahul.

Hi Rahul
Please find the answers as below:-
1> If reporting is done on an ODS then which table of ODS is used to get data? - For ODS reporting purpose data from active table is used.
2> If ODS is used as an infosource then for updating takes place from which table?
For init/full update data is taken from active table of ODS and loaded to cube
For delta updates, data is taken from change log table of ODS and loaded to cube.
Hope it helps.
Regards
Pradip

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See here:
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Thanks voodi,
I guess that tells me exactly what I was looking for. Its just that we are running reports in production for first time so we have some performance issues which doing jump so was wondering.
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