Reporting point backflush and milestone confirmation
hello pp experts,
if we have the option of milestone confirmation then why do we use reporting point backflush, actually what's the difference between them?
Dear,
If u do confirmation without RP it is like order level confirmation co15 in discrt all teh opeation is confirmed at once.Here u canot use operation wise.
So in REM we use MFBF reporting point back flush like CO11n which carried out on operation basis as milestone operation is confirm previous also get confirm.
To see the RP overview after confiramtion at each RP u can use MF26, this will give WIP qty to be conformed at each reporting point.
Hope clear to you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar
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Gurus,
Pl. Let me know, where to insert Reporting Points in the Product Cost Collectors?.
I have got a message that, either i should indicate reporting point in the routing or in the product cost collectors. (Routing i belive it is milestone control Key...).
Exact messge what i got is " Recreate the report points by recosting the product cost collector ....."
Regards,
K.Kumar.Dear Kumaran,
Regarding reporting point backflush, you have to make RP backflush mandatory in REM Profile and also
for automatic GR posting at last RP when back flushing.
And also whatever the control key thatu2019s used in the rate routing must be having the setting for
milestone confirmation,Say suppose if you are using PP01 control key for 3 operations in the rate
routing, then in T code OP67 for control key PP01 set value 1 for operation.
Assign this REM profile in the material master.
In MFBF,after entering the quantity,material,plant,select the check box for RP backflush and now enter
the first operation say 0010 and post ,at this point only activities and components gets posted.
Next you have to confirm operation 0020 and then while doing for 0030 GR and activities will get posted.
You can use MF26 for reporting point overview.
As far I know there's no relation between reporting points and product Cost collector.
Check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
Hi experts,
Could anyone please let me know that in case of reporting point backflushing how i can set reporting points
What are the diff. reporting point types?
What are the mandatory config. settings required for that?
thnx in advnceDear Madhur Nigam,
Reporting Point backflush:
1.Individual operations which are having the control key for the milestone confirmation will be confirmed in MFBF.Check in OP67
the control key is having the value 1 for confirmation.
2.In the REM profile,in OSP2 check box for RP backflush must be included and automatic GR posting at last RP when
backflushing.So the operation's GI and activities will get posted in MFBF and during last operation confirmation only GR happens.
3.This reporting point backflush will be applicable for make to stock production and not to make to order production.
4.This will be suitable for the products which has a longer lead time.
Check this link to explore more,
https://forums.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=28211317&messageID=7453795
Check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
The reporting point backflush is not possible for make-to-stock repetitive
Hi All,
we are using the assembly backflush in the MTS REM process. we are need to do the reporting point backflush
if we tick against the RP backflush. what will be the effect in the process while confirmation.
i read the sap library . it say like
The reporting point backflush is not possible for make-to-stock repetitive manufacturing.
is it correct.
Thanks
VRajHi mangal,
i did all the setting as you said. but when click on the reporting point.
system thru error
Error reading reporting point information
Message no. RM111
Diagnosis
The repetitive manufacturing profile is set for the reporting point procedure. However, either no reporting points exist for the material or they are incorrect. Two common reasons for this are:
The repetitive manufacturing profile has been changed in the current session.
You have not defined any milestone operations in the routing.
When creating the product cost collector, no reporting points were created.
Procedure
Two alternative solutions are possible:
Assign a repetitive manufacturing profile with no reporting point procedure to the material in the material master record.
Recreate the reporting points by recosting the product cost collector. To do this, the following prerequisites must be met:
In the material master record, in the production version, you must enter a routing under either detailed planning (first priority) or under rate-based planning (second priority).
Milestone operations must exist in this routing. The system ususally automatically creates the reporting points from these milestones when creating a product cost collector or when creating a production version.
how to create the REPORTING POINT -
Missing reporting point backflushes...
Hi,
Can anybody tell,
How to carry out the missing reporting point backflushes?
As i am backflushing the header material but the system give me the error message that ''GR quantity > RP quantities: Temporary reqmts inconsistency possible''
When i am clicking ''post with correction'', the child materials are not copied to component list.
Regards,
DevenI think the Plant might not be Activated for "Negative Stocks",
Activate the Plant and storage location for Negative Stock, it might work
Get the help of MM consultant, this setting comes in SPRO MM
Do the trial in sandbox or IDES then try in Production server
thanks
K.Prabakaran -
Reporting Point Backflush in REM
Dear all,
Consider the following scenario for RP backflushing in REM:
Total quantity produced on the line : 2 pc
There is one intermediate reporting point and one final reporting point.
REM profile <b>0004:Report. points with activities</b> is being used.
Now, at the intermediate RP i confirmed 1 pc.
At the final RP the system allows me to confirm 2 pc with a warning.
How do i prevent this? I want the system to only allow as much quantity to be confirmed as has been confirmed at the previous RP.
Kindly advice.
Regards,
SumeetDear Sumeet Vaidya,
Please give a try with this user exit <b>XMRM0001</b>.We used for a different
purpose during backflushing.
I'm not sure whether this user Exit works for this reason.
Please check with your ABAP consultant for more details.
Please check & confirm
Regards
Mangal -
Reporting Point Backflush Error
Hi Friends,
I have a specific question. I am using a material in which Batch Mangement is active. Now when I use MF42N as collective backflush, I enter following data
Scene 1: Input Data in MF42N Screen
Plant
Posting Data & Document Date (Current Date)
Material
backflush Qty
Version
Reporting Point
When I enter this data System posts it without asking me Batch Number though Batch Management is active in Material Master.
Scene 2: Input Data in MF42N Screen
Plant
Posting Data & Document Date (Current Date)
Material
backflush Qty
Version
When I enter this data (No Reporting Point), then System gives me error as Enter Batch (Which is correct as Batch Management is Active in Material Master)
Please tell me why system is not giving error in Scene 1 where I am not entering Batch details.
Please let me know if you want any more details on this.Dear Nilesh,
In this case I feel may be by debugging we may be able to identify why the system is allowing you to post the material along
with batch without mentioning the reporting point without error.
Logically it should look for both the objects like reporting point as well as batch number(provided if you have assigned a REM
profile with reporting point and activated the batch management for the product).Is the REM profile containing the reporting point
as mandatory or optional?
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
Phantom Assembly Reporting Point Backflush - Not able to backflush
We are unable to generate a backflush of the assembly components of a phantom assembly. The backflush indicator in the operation have been activated and the components involved are production relevant.
In the material master, i believe the REM Profile has been set correctly to allow for backflushing of the asseblies.
Am I overlooking something to have this work properly?
Any thoughts are much appreciated!
Thanks All!Dear suntevea,
Generally Production confirmation is not made for phantom assemblies either in Discrete or REM scenario.
So once when you do the confirmation for the upper level assembly where this phantom assembly is used
as a component,then at this point the good's issue(backflush) will be happening for the component's of the
phantom assembly.
Eg : Material A is a phantom assembly which is made up of components say B & C.
Again material A is a component for making another assembly say X,so when you do the backflushing in
MFBF for material X,you can see the components B & C are getting issued,which means Good's issue will
be happening for B & C,261 movement.
I hope you will be clear with the concept.
Revert back if you need any further assistance.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
Backflush and confirmation.
Reaspected sir,
we are practising backflush,and milestone confirmation.
que-1) Is there any relation between confirmtion and backfush,ie for backflush only some type of confirmation is suggested,reason.
que 2) since one of our authorative person suggested that we can use collective confirmation instead of milestone,I cannot figure it out the reason behind it.
hence i want to know is there any relation between backflush and milestone conf.
please correct me if I am going wrong abt something.....
Thanks
rahul.Hi,
que-1) Is there any relation between confirmtion and backfush,ie for backflush only some type of confirmation is suggested,reason.
NO Relation between them. Confirmation: where you will post actual quantities with activities. Backflush: Automatic posting of goods.
que 2) since one of our authorative person suggested that we can use collective confirmation instead of milestone,I cannot figure it out the reason behind it.
Collective confirmation means its used to confirm several operations at a time. Mile stone confirmation is used to confirm all its preceeding operations and also its used for any specific operation that all components of that operation are issued for production and after confirmation of that operation then system will allow us to confirm next operation. For Mile stone confirmation we have to maintain For confirmation set 1 as Milestone confirmation in Control key TC: OPJ8.
Regards
Jagadeesh K -
What is reporting point in REM mfg ?
Hi PP expertise,
Can someone explain what is reporting point in routing/backflush ?
how to know the routing use reporting point ?
ThanksDear,
Reporting Point Backflush is used when working with Longer Lead Times.
Reporting point backflush
Controls whether you can carry out reporting point backfushes when backflushing in make-to-stock repetitive manufacturing.
Use
Using the reporting point backflush:
You can withdraw the components close to the operation for which they are required which is very useful when working with longer lead times.
You can calculate the number of incomplete products (work in process).
You can post scrap quantities directly at the appropriate operation.
You can carry out a reporting point backflush at every operation defined as a milestone in the routing. In the repetitive manufacturing profile, you can also decide whether you want to make the reporting point backflush mandatory or optional.
Dependencies
The reporting point backflush is carried out in the same way as the milestone confirmation.
Steps to be follw:-
1)You must assign a suitable repetitive manufacturing profile in the material master record to be able to backflush a material using either the mandatory or the optional reporting point backflush function.
2)You must set the optional or the mandatory reporting point backflush in the repetitive manufacturing profile.
3)This type of backflushing corresponds to the milestone confirmation in make-to-order production. Therefore, in the routing, you must select a control key which has indicator 1 (= milestone confirmation) in the confirmation field.
4)You must enter the routing in the production version of the material. The system first looks for the routing entered in the detailed planning section. If no entry exists here, the system then uses the routing from the rate-based planning section.
5)You must carry out a version-specific or a standard cost estimate.
6.You are recommended to use the version-specific cost estimate which can be carried out in shorter intervals than the standard cost estimate.
7In MFBF screen you can flag the "RP Backflush " check box which means reporting point backflush and enter the Reporting point that is the operation #.
Hope clear to you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
REM - Reporting Point error during Backflushing
Hai PP Gurus,
When i am backflushing in REM (MFBF), System shows following error..
Error reading reporting point information
Message no. RM111
And then system suggests the following reasons...
The repetitive manufacturing profile has been changed in the current session.
You have not defined any milestone operations in the routing.
When creating the product cost collector, no reporting points were created.
But i checked all those things. But the system shows the same error.I could not found anything wrong what the system shows.What would be the reason beyond these.
(Actually first system reads the RP correctly.After that i changed one of the UOM in the BOM component.That particular material is purchased with EA & issued by using Meters.So first i used EA & then chamged to M.For this i maintained unit of issue in material master for that material.Now i changed all those things that means Unit of issue & UOM for the BOM component.So the position comes like prevoius. But the system shows the above mentioned error...)
Expecting your answers...
Thanks & Regards,
S.GaneshrajaDear Ganesh,
this is the help given by the SAP, while " Error reading reporting point information" is coming
Two alternative solutions are possible:
1.Assign a repetitive manufacturing profile with no reporting point procedure to the material in the material master record. or
2. Recreate the reporting points by recosting the product cost collector. To do this, the following prerequisites must be met:
In the material master record, in the production version, you must enter a routing under either detailed planning (first priority) or under rate-based planning (second priority).
Milestone operations must exist in this routing. The system ususally automatically creates the reporting points from these milestones when creating a product cost collector or when creating a production version.
To recoast the PCC Goto KKF6N -> select material Number -> select active production version -> select change icon-> select COST.
After getting message , use Goto option select dispaly cost estimate then select itemization from COST menu.
here u can, whwther the required operations have been selected or not.
then goto MFBF now you can do reporting backflush.
please try, if any error comes letus know..
regards
pradeep -
REM Reporting point confirmation- shiftwise
Hi All,
We have a requirement to use REM reporting point backflush for each shift. Presently confirmation is done in a non SAP system and transferred to SAP as Idocs for REM reporting point backflush.We need to configure this to do reporting point backflush shift wise in SAP. There were some suggestion in this forum to use user exit XMRM0001/ FM EXIT_SAPLBARM_001.
Can I know how this user exit can be used to popup for filling shift data? Our technical consultant had explored this user exit but they say it will validate/check header text but they are unable to create popup with this user exit as suggested in thread REM - Shiftwise Confirmation (Oct 1/2007). It will be helpful if some one can give more details from implementation or share the coding which will help us in adopting for our use.
My mail Id is [email protected] and [email protected]
Thanks & regardsRajesha,
Thank you very much for the valuable information you gave.It was really helpful in solving the issue
Thanks & regards
Ganeshan -
"Error reading reporting point information" message no. RM111
Hello friends,
I am doing the Reporting point backflush for a material and getting the error "Error reading reporting point information", message no. RM111.
i have given the milestone confirmation for the last operation in the rate routing for that material.
Even in REM Profile, Mandatory Reporting time backflush is activated.
In the production version of that material i have given the group of rate routing created for that material in Rate Routing field.
I have created the product cost collector for that material and production version. With costing lot size 1, even i have calculated the cost for that product cost collector. Though regarding costing couple of errors came, than also i saved it.
I am not sure whether system has created the reporting point while creating the product cost collector.How to check it?
Now for that material we have created the planned order.
Now when i am doing the backflush in MFBF t.c by giving the material code,plant and production version, system is throwing the error " Error reading reporting point information.
Thanks and Regards,
JitendraHello siva,
i executed the transaction MF30 as suggested by you, there system displayed following costing errors:
"No control record for Activity type PLVD/1301/ASBY in version 000 / 2010 activity planning/qty planning
Message no. KL023
Diagnosis
No activity planning or quantity planning has been carried out for Activity type PLVD/1301/ASBY in version 000 and fiscal year 2010.
Procedure
Activity Type Planning for cost centers or
Planning Quantities and Prices for business processes.
Even system is not picking the component prices, system throwing the error NO price could be determined for the material and batch so and so.
We are using the Preliminary cost estinmate.
is because of this system is not able to create reporting point in product cost collector?
Please Replay -
Dear Gurus,
I am facing problem in resetting of reporting points .
We have created product cost collector with production version but at that time REM allowed indicator is not ticked and control key is with out milestone confirmation
Transaction are done with reporting point 10 & reporting point 20 i have checked in table S028 & CEZP,CPZP all entries are available but in Tcode MF12 all entries are not available
we iam try set reporting points in MF4R The production version is not available for this i have ticked REM allowed indicator & Mile stone confirmation in control key it shows in MF4R But both the reporting points with O quantity.
As per S028 table my quantity differs in Reporting point 10 & 20
i have backflush some qty for reporting points 10 & 20 but it consider NEW QTY for resetting OLD QTY.
we have upgrade from 4.6 to 6.0 two years back.
we are using Period end closing process now.
i want to reset alI WIP of old PCC to REL Scrap by using MF4R.
I Have RE set all PCC by MF4R but this is my old PCC it creates me problem in restting
There is any way to reduce WIP to zero in old PCC Cost collectors with out resetting reporting points
Already we run report KKAO
I have checked all below notes
SAP Note 756186 - RM402 No reporting points when creating
production version - available
MFBF: Reporting point backflush
terminates with error RM111
Any program, Any note for to reset WIP TO zero
Regards
Avinashhi experts,
Any one can resolve my problem
please revert back for any clarification required
Regards
Avinash -
Please explain the basis of the reporting point in REM.
And what's the advantage of using reporting points?
Thanks.Dear Omar,
Reporting Point Backflush is used when working with Longer Lead Times.
Reporting point backflush
Controls whether you can carry out reporting point backfushes when backflushing in make-to-stock repetitive manufacturing.
Use
Using the reporting point backflush:
You can withdraw the components close to the operation for which they are required which is very useful when working with longer lead times.
You can calculate the number of incomplete products (work in process).
You can post scrap quantities directly at the appropriate operation.
You can carry out a reporting point backflush at every operation defined as a milestone in the routing. In the repetitive manufacturing profile, you can also decide whether you want to make the reporting point backflush mandatory or optional.
Dependencies
The reporting point backflush is carried out in the same way as the milestone confirmation.
For this in the REM Profile RP Backflush settings must be included.
Regards
Mangalraj.S
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