REQUIREMENT TO STOP BALANCE SHEET ACCOUNTS FROM ACCEPTING PROJECT AT JOURNAL CREATION OR ANY FINANCIAL DOCUMENT CREATION.

Dear Gurus,
I have a requirement from my client to stop balance sheet account from accepting project at financial document creation or journal entry because this process distrupt the profit and loss account report or transaction report by project as balance sheet items are not expected to be part of this report.
Kindly advise on the way to achieve this to enable fulfill requirement and deliver excellence service.
Kind regards,

Hi Nagarajan,
Thank you for your response.
My sample is whenever an entry is raised to be posted to a balance sheet account such account should not allow user to post but only in revenue and expense account. E.g. A Stock account should not allow project assignment but a cost of sales, expenses or sales revenue accounts should only accept project assignment.
Only P&L items should allow project assignments.
I hope this is clear is enough.
Regards,

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Hello all,
at first sorry for my english.
SOS! I need help.
We make transfer dates from FI to PCA for customer/ vendor reconciliation accounts. We made 1KEK run in period 5 and everything was ok. But after the run for period 6 the calculated figures are summing up period 5 + 6. For example in FI GL period 5 - 1000 euro, period 6 - 400 euro. Test run 1kek for period 6 shows 1400. So we have difference between FI and PCA 1000 euro. For every next period the dates are summing up from first transfered period to current period.
May be anybody know such problem and can help me.
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Anna Grudinina

The following balance sheet items can be transferred online in realtime:
Material stocks
Assets
Work in process
Other balance sheet items (transaction-based only)
The system posts balance postings directly to Profit Center Accounting from online postings which directly affect the balances of assets, materials and work in process. If you have line items in Profit center Accounting, the system updates a profit center document for each reference document (e.g. MM or FI document).
We can transfer the following balance sheet items to Profit Center Accounting in the standard SAP system at end of period:
Payables and receivables

Transfer normal balance sheet accounts to PCA

Hi All,
Following 4 T-codes are available for transfer of balance sheet accounts from FI to PCA
1KEH                  EC-PCA: Transfer Material Stocks
1KEI                   EC-PCA: Transfer Assets
1KEJ                  EC-PCA: Transfer Work in Process
1KEK                 EC-PCA: Transfer Payables/Receivables
How do i transfer any other balance sheet account to PCA [other than through Default Profit Center (3keh)]
Regards,
Shridhar.

Hi Daniela, hi All, because this is my first posting I would like to introduce myself. I'm working with SAP since 1996, I'm certified FI and CO. I used to work as a consultant for six years and now I'm Inhouse SAP with Gerresheimer. http://www.gerresheimer.de/en/home.html
We are supporting our people around the world and also we are putting in new SAP systems in our organisation. Currently we have three different clients world wide, with different organizational levels. We are on SAP ECC 6.0 however not using the new GL yet.
So far so good ;-)..
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We are currently in the US trying to switch on balance sheet accounting for PCA due to business unit requirements.
We've got:
- Assets
- Material
- AP and AR
working! All with periodic transfer which we found more stable then online. When created the opening balances did match for AP and assets to FI and AR and material were just a little bit of, that was great.
Now we are running into the problem with all the other balance sheet accounts and still we are reading documentation, OSS Notes and all kind of stuff, but still we have problems. The issues are:
- Do we have to assign every account in 3KEH which is not covered by assets, ap/ar, and material? We tested it with a bank account and it is working, but the table in 3KEH only gives you the option of one PC, plus you can use derivation rule. Ok, there is a user exit but we are not sure about that...
- Why can't we use the profit center which is populated in the balance sheet account? Every BS account has the radio button 'profit center required' for example we have an accrual account in the PC is in there, we can see it, put when we move the FI document over with 1KE8 nothing happens.
- On the other hand we had an account and it was just working the way I described with 1KE8, the document was moved over to PCA.
We are really a little bit confused, since assets, AP/AR and material worked so well, we seem to be blocked on the other accounts and not sure what is the best way to go.
Any response is highly appreciated!
With best regards and all the best,
Thomas
Edited by: Thomas Sablonski on Jul 23, 2008 5:43 PM
Edited by: Thomas Sablonski on Jul 23, 2008 5:46 PM
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We have got it working 100% looks nice...
basically the answer :
'- Do we have to assign every account in 3KEH which is not covered by assets, ap/ar, and material? '
is YES.
Thanks and regards,
Thomas
Edited by: Thomas Sablonski on Jul 24, 2008 11:40 PM

Balance Sheet Account saved as Profit and Loss Account now wants to rectify

Dear All,
Balance Sheet account wrongly created as profit and loss account, and it contains some entries in previous year and current year as well.
Now we want to rectify that error i.e. we would like to change the profit and loss account as balance sheet account (which is to be as Balance Sheet A/c.).
There is a program which is exclusively available for the same which converts profit and loss account to balance sheet account. If you know pl. let me know.
Waiting for your early response and thanks in advance.
Regards
anand.inguva

Hi ,
earliar also i have given same quation replay, possiblity is there for change GL account type.
When you tray to can change to Balance sheet account from FS00 screen u can get following error message
"Cannot change control of Profit and lossaccount (primary cost elements exist)
"The data contains error, you cannot save"
and if u open that message u can get the following message no.
"The data contains error, you cannot save
Message no. FH511"
it can not be save. so u comeback from fs00 screen
go to OBA5 and give the application are FH and enter, after that select new entries, select the drop down button select your message 511, in online column select W for warning and save.
then u can get the change.
please ensure that if you have not completed the year ending closing procedure the above shoul do..
but your case last year also some entries thre in that particular GL account, so u can not do the above method.
You cannot change the account type.
you need to block that gl account and crete a new GL
pass journals entries to transfer from old p&l gl account to new b/s account
please try it and come back me
assign points if it is useful,
If u find the solution close the issue and assign points.
thanks
sai Krishna

Change GL Account Type from Balance Sheet Account to P&L Statmt Account

Hi Experts's
We have mistakenly defined the GL account as type Balance Sheet Account type and Some postings are done on this GL, we need to change it to P&L Statmt Account, When we do that it's throwing message FH602, as below.
Change balance sheet control in spite of account balance
     Message no. FH602
Diagnosis
     You have changed the G/L account from a "balance sheet account" to a
     "P&L account" or conversely.
     The balance of the account is, however, not zero.
Procedure
     Check your entries.
     If the G/L account was already posted in the previous year, execute the
     balance carryforward again for the current fiscal year. (program
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Please let me know the procedure to do this change, or do i have to run any report.
Thanks

HI
If you are mid-year please try this:
Balance sheet having 10000 credit balace
try to post like this manually
Balance sheet account dr 10000
to Profit and loss account 10000
now tick the Profit and loss account and reverse the entry
try this in test environment first
Thanks & Regards
Phaneendra

Post balance sheet account to profit center accouting

Hi.experts.
I want to post some blance sheet accounts to profit center accounting,these account include material stock,wip. what should I do?
thanks in advance.
Fannt

Hello
Balance sheet items can be transferred periodically or online in realtime
You can transfer the following balance sheet items to Profit Center Accounting in the standard SAP system at end of period:
    Payables and receivables
   Material stocks
   Assets
   Work in process
This can be done in period closing activities for AR/AP
The assignment of payables and receivables to various profit centers is basically derived from the offsetting entry line of the FI document to which they belong. It is not possible to make structural changes to them within Profit Center Accounting. If, for example, you assign a new profit center to a material, or change the derivation rules when creating sales orders, these actions do not affect the assignments of documents which have already been posted.
The payables and receivables to be divided are calculated in FI at the end of the period. To do so, call up the SAP Easy Access screen and choose Accounting ® Financial Accounting ® General Ledger ® Periodic Tasks ® Closing ® Regroup ® Debit Balance Sheet Account Subsequently.
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You access the transfer function by choosing the following path from the Customizing menu for Profit Center Accounting: Actual postings ® Transferring selected balance sheet items ® Generate opening balance for work in process.
The selection screen provides you with the choice of all company codes within the active controlling area. You also enter the period and fiscal year.
You generally work with the standard results analysis version 0. Should you wish to use a different results analysis version, note that this must be set up in CO Customizing for updating in Financial Accounting, as the corresponding account determination is required.
The program transfers all changes in work in process within a single period. When running this function for the first time with a given controlling area, please select the field Create opening balance. The system then posts the opening balance to the start period. You can also post the opening balance to period 01 at fiscal year change, so avoiding having to carry the balance forward.
You access the transfer program by selecting Actual postings ® Transferring selected balance sheet items ® Generate opening balance for assets in Customizing for Profit Center Accounting.
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Reg
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Balance sheet account

Dear Guru's
Could anyone explain how the balance sheet account is set to the customers in SD. I was setting up the revenue accounts in VKOA and then I wondered how to assigned the balance sheet accounts. Some details much appreciated.. thanks
Regards,
Jin

hello, friend.
actually, the G/L accounts are given to SD by FI. FI configures these accounts. we coordinate with FI with the following account requirements:
1. revenue
2. discounts (customer, material, customer/material, etc.)
3. surcharges (e.g. freight, pallet, etc.)
4. other sales deductions and returns
5. rebate accrual accounts
6. other settlement accounts
7. other reconciliation accounts
we assign these in VKOA. but sometimes, special situations require other assignments (such as recon accounts assignments in billing types).
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hope this helped you.
regards.

Balance sheet accounts not updating in GLPCA / GLPCT

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I am working on MySAP 6.0 version and posting FI document giving profit center as an account assignment.
When I check the table entries in GLPCA and GLPCT I could see only P&L accounts updated in these tables but not the balance sheet accounts viz Bank Account.
To be more elaborate if my entry is as under
Dr Expense Account (PCA1) GLPCA / GLPCT (It is updated)
Cr Bank Account (PCA2) GLPCA / GLPCT (ignoring this line item)
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Would anybody have any reasoning for this?

HI
Originally till 4.7 SAP had only month end transaction to push many of balance sheet items to PCA only from the new versions it is having this online transfer usinf assignment of PCA to Gl accounts and then deriving PCA through splitting rules. Thats is why P7L items automatically flow however for balance sheet items especially creditors and debtors, bank and others it requires proper derivation.
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Dear SAP Guru,
We're currently in 4.7. We've implemented PCA for Profit and Loss Accounting. There's business requirement to produce Full Balance Sheet Accounting in PCA, i.e. the one similar to Business Area. Can the standard PCA module (in 4.7) support Full Balance Sheet Accounting? If can, what are the settings and steps that need to be configured in the system? Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Hello,
you can get the full balance sheet from PCA.
The steps are:
1. You must make sure that you have completed financial statement version (OB58).
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3. See the available reports in KE80. One of the report must suit your requirement.
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Hi folks,
Is it possible to create a cost element for a balance sheet account? If yes, what are the scenerios we would need it and how is it done?
thanks in advance

Hello
Please review the below information regarding cost elements category 90 : Financial Accounting Balance Sheet Accounts
Category 90 is automatically assigned when you create cost elements in CO whose   general ledger accounts in FI are asset reconciliation accounts
(special balance sheet accounts), not income statement accounts. You
cannot change this category in CO master data maintenance.
FI does not require CO account assignments to cost elements of
category 90. However, if you enter an account assignment, it is only
recorded statistically for real objects.
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in the corresponding field in the asset master. The Asset Management
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control.
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Profit center charge to balance sheet account

Hi SAP experts,
I would like to seeking for professional advice on is below business process require to use MM module?
Currently my customer is using MB1B (material transfer) to make an posting to balance sheet account (100) and in MB1B screen there was a column to assign profit center (P1).
So the accounting document will be DR 100(g/l) & CR 110(g/l) and charge to P1(profit center)
When customer go to view on KE80, will show the amount transfer charge to cost element 400
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Thanks
regards,
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hope this will help you.
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nagini

Hi,
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