Rescue and Recovery and Windows 8.1

Hi,
For the last 4 years I used Rescue and Recovery on the my ThinkPads to keep backups (really liked the incremental backup feature) and restore single files when needed.
I now just got a new X1 Carbon gen3 coming with Windows 8.1 installed by default and lot of the classic ThinkVantage tools are missing. I understood many of these tools doesn't exist anymore or are replaced by "apps".
But what about Rescue and Recovery? Can't find it anywhere for Windows 8.1 and it's really an important tool.
Any idea? Did I just miss the link somewhere? It's official and this tools isn't supported (and will never be) on Windows 8.1? Any workaround? (like installing the one of Windows 7 and cross my fingers?)
Thanks for your input on that (I'm already hating Windows 8.1, luckily Windows 10 will be better ...)
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Thanks to confirm it doesn't exist (for now I hope) for win8/8.1. I will have a look at Windows backup and in the same time think about the downgrade to Windows 7 (also for some other reasons).

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When I got my G41 ThinkPad in November 2004 it had a Hidden Service Partition
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Hi,
I think your laptop is not set to boot from the DVD-rom. You have to 1st go to bios and set the 1st boot device to be the dvd-rom. After that, insert the recovery startup disc and it should take you to the recovery menu.
BTW, you should be able to recover from the service partition as long as you have not deleted it, even if windows is screwed up. Make sure you press the blue Thinkvantage button or the F11 key at startup and only then will it take you to the recovery menu.
Hope it works.
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"rescue and recovery" and "swshare" log question

I am currently analzying logs from "rescue and recovery" and "swshare" program and notice SMA.log and capture.sma in particular. I want to verifiy what do each of those 2 logs mean. does one mean the data that was successfully backed up and the other one means what was restored to the machine? the restore.log contains a specific date, was that the date the data was restored to the machine?
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Rescue and Recovery AND Create Recover Media crash

Hi,
I need some guidance on my problems with Think Vantage. I am new to this forum and overwhelmed by the volume of information.
My problem. "Rescue and Recovery" AND "Create Recover Media" crash when I attempt to use them.
I have a Lenovo N100 0768A27 running XP. Everything is up-to-date. I have no other problems!
I have downloaded the System Tool Box but that does not want to work either.
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hey Thegazzman00,
welcome to the forums and for this, was there any error when it crash or when you were trying to upgrade to version 4.2 ?
If yes, could you provide a screenshot for us ? Many thanks for that.
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How to use the rescue and recovery, and the product recovery discs ?

Hi everyone,
I've just recently became a new owner of a T61, and really enjoying it. I haven't had a chance yet to test-drive the lenovo phone support, as I have not yet screwed anything up that bad that required their help. I did try a clean factory reinstall from the service partition and it worked great. I would like to find out, how does one use the rescue and recovery startup disc, and the product recovery discs that I created myself? From my previous experience with Dell and HP, I only had to insert the first one and restart the computer, and the rest followed. But with ThinkPads, if I ever wanted to bring it to a clean factory state using those discs, do I use rescue and recovery first, followed by the product recovery? I'm curious, what is the difference between the two?
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blake_ibm wrote:
Hi! I'm blake
There is no diff between the two... One is on the Hard Drive and the other on CD/DVD.
Having the HDD version (pre-installed) is a good for trouble shooting. It uses a whole diff O/S on a whole diff partition (not C.
So if you are having problems and boot to RnR (via F11), and those problems go away. you know your issue is software related. If you still have the same problems probly Hardware related... IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO TAKE WINDOWS OUT OF THE PROBLEM.
Other then that. You can re-image another HDD from disks, you can't do that with the F11 version.
dose all that make sense?
Hi blake_ibm,
Thanks. All this makes perfect sense to me, but that's not what I'm asking for. My question is this: if I wanted to bring my notebook to its factory shipped condition using my recovery cd's, how do I do that? Do I insert cd1 first and then restart the notebook, or do I just insert it without restarting it, or perhaps I should use first the rescue and recovery?
You said that there is no difference between the two, but what two are you talking about man? I am not comparing cd recovery to partition recovery. I am talking about rescue and recovery cd, with system recovery cd's. These are the two things that I'm talking about.
I'm really grateful for all replies, but please people, read the question first !!!
I would really appreciate if someone could explain the steps involved in performing a clean factory recovery, using the cd's, and not the recovery partition. I just want to know for the future, in case one day I have to do it. That is all I'm asking.
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frontleft wrote:
Haven't tried this but it sounds promising:
RRUtil.exe > "RRUtil.exe is an administrator tool which can be used to customize parts of the Rescue and Recovery PreDesktop Area"
URL: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/TVAN-ADMIN.html
Alternatively*, you can delete the hidden system folder C:\RRBackups in Safe mode, but do rebuild another backup after this...
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* I had 70% of my 160GB hard drive utilised by the R&R backups, so I deleted all my backups instead.
*I have to do a backup now...
Be extremely careful if you do this. The backups are tracked in other places than just the folder location on the hard drive and simply deleting them from the folder (which is not expected behavior) can cause problems. If you opt to do this, I recommend "deleting" them again via the RnR UI to clean up references in the registry, etc.
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Based on your description I don't think Rescue & Recovery or Client Security Solution have any value for you.

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Create Recovery Media crashes on Windows 7 SP1 and Rescue and Recovery 4.51.0045.00

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How to install Rescue and Recovery 4.21 on Windows 2003

There should be a good amount of users running Windows 2003 on their thinkpad for various reasons. As much as I tried, I could not get Rescue and Recovery's MSI to install on my X61 running Win2003 R2 SP2, despite attempts to modify the Setup.ini file.
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Message Edited by Xseriesfanboy on 08-31-2008 08:30 PM
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Alrighty..I've manage to google a hack to this problem of getting Rescue and Recovery to install on Windows 2003. So let this post be a guide to how to get this done:
Getting the tools to modify Rescue and Recovery MSI (Windows Installer)
Download and install Orca MSI editor from http://astebner.sts.winisp.net/Tools/Orca.zip
Review http://ravi1337.blogspot.com/2007/05/orca-msi-editor-make-any-software.html, this guide should give you a good idea what you'll be doing with this tool.
Download Rescue and Recovery™ 4.21 from Lenovo
Download Rescue and Recovery™ 4.21 for Windows XP (32-bit) or Windows 2000 from http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/license.do?filename=thinkvantage_en/z652_setup_rnr42_016c...
Ensure you are downloading full install with all language pack to avoid any missing installation file due to regional settings
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Modification of Rescue and Recovery Installer
Delete all files in C:\Documents and Settings\(User Account Name)\Local Settings\Temp\ this will prevent confusion on which files are unpacked and created by RR installer
Extract z652_setup_rnr42_016c.exe into a folder named z652_setup_rnr42_016c.
Execute tvtrnr42.exe
The MSI installer is then unpacked to the following default directory: C:\Documents and Settings\(User Account Name)\Local Settings\Temp\. Note that the installer creates two directories for installation of RR, that are {F151F2B3-0C32-44D3-90E2-E639B8024622} and _isXXXX <--- 4 randomly generated digits
The folder _isXXXX contain Rescue and Recovery.msi
On the first run of the installer, the following error will be shown "The current operating system is not supported for running Rescue and Recovery. Supported operating systems includes Microsoft Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 or Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or later". DO NOT CLICK OK! This is cause the installer to purge all installation files and related directories in the temp directory. Just leave the error window as it is without clicking the OK button!
Copy all TVT files from folder z652_setup_rnr42_016c into both directories
Modify setup.ini entry for Win2003Server with notepad and save changes:
[Win2003Server]
MajorVer=5
MinorVer=2
MinorVerMax=3
BuildNo=3790
PlatformId=2
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Drop the following rows and save changes:
(((VersionNT=501 AND ServicePackLevel>=1)OR (VersionNT=500 AND ServicePackLevel>=3)) AND WINSERVER=0) OR Installed- The current operating system is not supported for running [ProductName]. Supported operating systems include Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 2000 with Service Pack 3 or later and Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or later.
IEEXISTS=1 OR Installed - [ProductName] requires Microsoft(R) Internet Explorer version 5.5 or higher. You cannot install the Rescue and Recovery program without this version of Internet Explorer.
INCOMPAPPNAME=0 OR Installed - [INCOMPAPPNAME] is installed and is incompatible with this version of [ProductName]. This application cannot be installed. To install [ProductName], uninstall [INCOMPAPPNAME] and then restart this setup.
Not SGEWRONGVERSION OR Installed - [INCOMPAPPNAME] is installed and is incompatible with this version of [ProductName]. This application cannot be installed. To install [ProductName], uninstall [INCOMPAPPNAME] and then restart this setup.
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Where is Rescue and Recovery 4.50 for Windows 7 and why was it removed from the support site?

When Rescue and Recovery 4.51 was released a few weeks ago, all references to the previous version were replaced. Unfortunately, the new release is not supported on the R series machines nor on the earlier T series machines, so for those machines, the only version of Rescue and Recovery for Windows 7 that is available is version 4.30.0027 which was released in September 2009.
This makes no sense.
Please re-instate the documentation and download links for Rescue and Recovery 4.50 for all machines which were supported on that release but are not on version 4.51.
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Thank you for your response.
The R61 and the R500 that I own, that are currently running Windows XP are staying there until Microsoft stops supporting Windows XP, at which point I will decide what to do with them, so trying 4.51 on them is not currently an option.
As an IT professional, I tend to be the support guy for all the Lenovo computers in my family. My son also has an R500, which was purchased used, and it came with Windows 7. When I set it up for him, I installed Rescue and Recovery 4.5 over 4.3 before taking the original full system image backups. He would loose the capability to use those backups if I were to try to downgrade that machine to Rescue and recovery 4.3. My own R500 came with Rescue and Recovery 4.30.0025, (for which there is no documentation nor download links available, to my knowledge), and I have never upgraded it, because I am concerned that all my backups would become unreadable if I did. I don’t think it is worth the effort to make all the external bootable backups that upgrading the software would require. I would upgrade if I was assured that version 4.30.0027 could read the backups taken by version 4.30.0025.
There were 2 more versions of Rescue and Recovery. There was version 4.31.007 released on 2010/09/28 and version 4.31.011 released on 2011/03/04. The document ID’s for release 4.51 are the same as those for the 4.31 releases, so I should assume that Lenovo considers the 4.31 releases a major advance over the 4.30 release, and thus not a valid fallback option but why not?
The download links for Rescue and Recovery 4.31.007 are:
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/thinkvantage_en/tvtvrnr431_007en.txt
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/thinkvantage_en/tvtvrnr431_007en.exe
The download links for Rescue and Recovery 4.31.011 are:
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/thinkvantage_en/tvtvrnr431_011en.exe
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I used the Rescue And Recovery disks (7 disks plus actually recovery cd) on my T42. I received the cd set direct from IBM. I've used the CDs in the past with no issues. This time after following the instructions and completing the restore, I cannot get the computer to boot to windows. It keeps going back to the Rescue And Recovery program. What can I do?

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"Also, if you get stuck after step 9 with Rescue and Recovery keeps on booting in a loop and not entering Windows then all you need to do is: GomJabbar wrote: While in Rescue and Recovery (with all CD's removed from your optical drive) you need to tell it to Restore Factory Contents. All the CD's really do is install Rescue and Recovery and the files needed to Restore Windows and the original Factory software."
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