Rescue and Recovery Hidden Partition

Hi all! I hold a TC A50 and there's issue with it regarding the RnR hidden partition!
The Hidden Partition is now not hidden in Windows even I selected to hide such drive in BIOS before building the partition by Recovery CDs.
I called PC HelpCentre previously and see if it is the problem with my set of CDs (I used this set of CDs several times before this issue appears). And they refused to send me another set. Anyway, I just want to know if some ppl that has insight into how Hidden Partition Works can help in turning my machine really back to the Original Factory Stage! Thanks!
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hi you the rescue partition is made automatically when you use your recovery cd's on the new HDD so no problem there!
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How to make the RESCUE AND RECOVERY hidden partition when changing the hard disk drive

I've got T61 and I'd like to know if is it possible (in case of changing the HDD) to make the RESCUE AND RECOVERY hidden partition on the new hard disk drive? If yes - please let me know how to do that.

hi you the rescue partition is made automatically when you use your recovery cd's on the new HDD so no problem there!
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ERROR occured when update the ""Rescue and Recovery 4.2""......

dear all, i'm a newbie with the TP notebook, and i'm a chinese , sorry for my POOR english !!
hope you all will understand what i explain now......
i just buy a T61 last nite, but when i try to "UPDATE" my system, two error message shown to me.........
Error 25013: Error obtaining the Rescue and Environment drive letter
Error 25012: Error accessing the Rescue and Recovery service partition
at last, i can't finish the "Rescue and Recovery UPdate" anyway !!
and i've try to download the "Rescue and Recovery 4.2" from the web manually, but got the same error occured !!
anyone try before ?
pls help me to solve the problem !!
P.S. because i just buy my T61 within 24 hrs, i'm so worry about this !!
thanks so much !!
Regards

Hi Mark,
Good idea! No luck though, although my R&R partition is still healthy and boots nicely. I'm wondering if the solution wasn't actually the removal of your second hard drive. Other threads discuss how getting rid of network shares helped similar problems, as R&R wanted to use drive letters that were already taken by network drives. Me, I've got an "F:" that's my swap partition and a "G:" that's my fat32 partition. If the R&R upgrade program is hardcoded to mount the hidden partition as "F:" (for example), rather than trying to dynamically grab the first available drive letter, I could understand what was going on.
I'd unmount my F and G partitions if I knew how to do so in windows, but don't know of an nondestructive way to do this.
With a specific idea like this my normal (linux) next step would be to go read the source and find out if that really is the problem. Can't do that in this case unfortunately, but if a Lenovite happens to be reading this forum and can direct me to the proper place to submit a real bug report, I'll do so. Can only find service call info on the website, which doesn't help to submit a bug.
Alec

Using Rescue and Recovery to make backups from 3 different machines

Hello, I have three Thinkpad laptops, T400, X61 and R61i. I want to back up them using one external HD. The HD is divided into three partitions, the smallest for X61, the medium for R61i and the largest - for T400. I backed up all my laptops into the proper partitions (base backups), but now, then I want to make partial backups, they all are going to the largest partition (intended for T400). Is it possible (and how) to cause R&R to always use the same partition for each laptop while backing up it?
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Please read the following post:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkVantage-Technologies/Rescue-and-Recovery-backup-partition-second-ha...
From this post:
(1) Learn how to change security/options to peak inside the RRbackups folder
(2) The conclusion
outside of an existing RNR folder, For a NEW create RRbackups folder, it will choose the partition with the MOST FREE space.
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I will offer some commentary and match it to what you are seeing.
(1) What release of RNR are on the 3 machines? same release? The newer RNR (been like this for a while), uses the UUID to separate backups within the SAME backup folder.
(2) for the C drive hdd, you CAN select another partition on the C drive hdd to hold the rrbackups folder, from the Advanced menu parms. This option is NOT available for second HDD.
(3) You will always have a RRbackups folder on the C drive. If you uninstall RNR, the C drive RRbackups is deleted. ***** Any RRbackups on external hdd will remain***
(4) What you want to do will not work. RNR is expecting one RNR backups folder on the external hdd, thus implying only one backups folder. From RNR windows, view backups will ONLY show backups that match the UUID of the machine RNR is running on. If you run RNR standalone, you can go to the restore panel and check the "show all backups from all machines" options. This should show all 3 of your machines backups. There is no advantage to have 3 partitiions for 3 backup folder. Sounds nice, wont work.
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I will walk you thru a basic how it works on your end. Correct me if you see something else.
(1) external HDD
part 1. small.
part 2. medium
part 3. large
All new partitions. All empty. Back up large machine, it will chose part 3, create RNR backups folder, Take a FULL base backup. It will store the backup location in the C \RRbackups and the registry. This entry in the folder is named 0. It should be roughly 1/2 the size of the Large machine C drive. Lets say 39 GB. Run the next run. This is an incremental backup (your term = partial). This entry is named 1, and will be 2 GB., etc.
You uninstall RNR. Reinstall, change location to Second. Run a backup. This will be an incremental backup (2) and will continue where it left off. (ie, it should find the old folder with uuid inside).
(2) the mess
You backup medium computer. It will find the part3 RNR backups but no matching UUID. humm.. Will it use folder on part3 or choose a largest free space partition, like part 2. You will have to test. I would vote for part 3.
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In summary:
I believe RNR is designed for only 1 rrbackups folder on an external HDD, regardless of the number of partitions. You seem to indicate you have 3 RRbackups folders on 3 partitions. Look inside each folder. It might be just using part3 for all your backups and you just dont see it. (ie, were you using part 1 for small machine, took a backup, then added part 2 and part 3, etc). This might work. Small machine is locked in on small part 1. Large is locked in on part3. But if you uninstall RNR on small machine, reinstall, take backup. hum. It will probably switch over to part 3. or find part 1.
This is risk and time you do not need to take. You want a solid plan that works. Based on this mess, I think RNR folks decided to design only 1 RNR backups folder on external.

Rescue and Recovery Drive letters - error message

Trying to run Rescue and recovery after partitioning my hard drive results in the following error message:
"The last backup of this system included the following drive letters:
C:
Your system is currently backing up the following drive letters:
C:
E:
Please set the letters as they were previously and retry the backup. You may need to exclude partitions created since the last backup"
NOw I have changed the options to exclude E: but I was wondering is there any way to include it in backups - would I have to back up to a USB hard drive without any previous backups on it? And is it a good idea to use R&R to backup partitions?
Any advice much appreciated!
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Sorted - needed a formatted backup USB disk and that worked fine.

Rescue and Recovery and the Hidden Service Partition

When I got my G41 ThinkPad in November 2004 it had a Hidden Service Partition
of size 693 Mb. I'm a fan of Rescue and Recovery and upgraded it successfully
up through version 4.0, but when I tried to upgrade to 4.1 and later to 4.2 I got
an error that said there was not enough free space. After I learned that the error
was referring to free space in the Hidden Service Partition I had my hard drive
repartitioned so the Service Partition was 4 Gb. R & R 4.2 then installed, and I'm
now on version 4.21.0016.00.
The other day I noticed that my free space on C:\ had dramatically increased, and
on further investigation I found that my Hidden Service Partition was again 693 Mb.
I don't know how this happened, unless it was the result of my starting to rejuvinate
my system and then later cancelling out of that processs and doing a full restore. I
still get the 4.2 Rescure and Recovery menu on hitting the blue Access IBM button
when I boot, and it seems to work as expected.
My question is: Should I have my HDD repartitioned again to make a 4 GB Hidden
Partition?
Bob Stockler
G41 - 2886-5TU - Mobile Pentium 4 532 - 3.06 Gh
2 Gb RAM - 80 Gb Toshiba 5400rpm HDD - Win XP Pro

Hi,
I think your laptop is not set to boot from the DVD-rom. You have to 1st go to bios and set the 1st boot device to be the dvd-rom. After that, insert the recovery startup disc and it should take you to the recovery menu.
BTW, you should be able to recover from the service partition as long as you have not deleted it, even if windows is screwed up. Make sure you press the blue Thinkvantage button or the F11 key at startup and only then will it take you to the recovery menu.
Hope it works.
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Hidden Partition for Rescue and Recovery suddenly appeared on My Computer

Hello to everyone viewing this forum. I'm from the Philippines, and this is my first time posting in the forums. I bought my Lenovo 3000 N100 Notebook from Singapore, and it's over a year old now.
Well, we all know that the built-in ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery program gives us a last resort when our laptops fail, and we all know that the hard drive partition where it resides is in a partition that is hidden, right? Well here's my problem..
I encountered a Windows problem which made me use a borrowed Windows operating system disk to repair it (via Windows startup repair), as although I have created recovery media already, I still want to back-up my data before that. Now after I have gone through the Windows Startup Repair service, and when I logged on, I was surprised to see the supposed to be hidden partition now appearing in My Computer! And as if that's not enough, when I try to boot Rescue and Recovery via the Lenovo Care button, it doesn't work anymore! Neither can I make Rescue and Recovery medium (Create Rescue Media on the Internal Hard drive) as it gives the following error:
"The Files required for creating the rescue media cannot be found."
And when I try to make Rescue Media on a CD/DVD:
"An internal error has caused this process to fail."
I would like to ask all you kind people here for your help with this issue.
I'm considering backing up all files I need via the Rescue and Recovery workspace, but since I can't access R&R I'm considering manually backing up the files I need via external storage devices, and my another question is that would my Product Recovery disks still work even though I can't access the R&R partition? This is my reserve plan in case I won't be able to fix the issue about the not-so-hidden partition, and I wouldn't want to lose my factory install reserves in that case...
Hope for your prompt reply!
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Service Partition - Rescue and Recovery installation fails (not enough free space)

Im am aware about former posts to this subject on this forum, but they didn't answer all my questions, so I reopened the subject.
I tried to install "Rescue and Recovery" on T60 with win XP Pro and got the following message:
'There is not enough free space in the boot sector to install the Rescue and Recovery boot manager'
I followed the solution in "Rescue and Recovery installation fails") from 08-09-2008 03:03 AM
and created a hidden partition with Parted Magic but the rescue and recovery still fails with the same message.
Somewhere in the forum I read that the original service partition has a special format and not ntfs.
Could somebody tell me is it true or not ?
How can I rebuild this service partition ?
Do I need special setting, flags there ?
Is it possible to rebuild this partition without recovery CDs at all ?
Actually I'm wondering to, about the error message. It is saying '"..There is not enough free space in the boot sector ..." .
Is it possible that the boot sector is the problem and not the service partition ?
How can I fix that ?
Thanks in advance if somebody helps.

I have a 4-year-old ThinkPad R51. Because I was getting intermittent boot-up error messages--"Rescue and Recovery has encountered a problem and needs to close"--with ver. 4.0, I tried to upgrade to ver. 4.2. Per instructions, I first removed ver. 4.0 using Windows Control Panel. Then each attempt to install 4.2 failed with the message: "Error 25025. There is not enough free space on the computer to install or upgrade the Rescue and Recovery environment." Just before that error message popped up in center-screen, I got a Windows message at lower right saying "You are running out of space on SERVICEV001 (Z:}" Of course, there was no way I could view partition Z (that I knew of).
Thanks to the helpful messages above, I downloaded Parted Magic (http://partedmagic.com), burned a boot CD per its instructions, and re-booted with that CD. Using GParted, I saw that my SERVICEV001 partition was merely 590 MB, and 587 MB was in use. So I reduced my C partition by 500 MB and added 500 MB to the Z partition, raising it to 1090 MB. Then I was able to re-boot into Windows and the installation of Rescue and Recovery 4.2 was error-free.
Out of curiosity, I again re-booted with the Parted Magic CD to see how much space on the Z partition was taken by the RnR ver. 4.2 installation. To my surprise, it showed that still only 587 MB was in use, and 503 MB remained unused.
I thank those in this forum whose messages gave me the needed guidance. And I thanked the author of Parted Magic with a $10 donation, as I hope other users of his open source program will do.
Message Edited by DougSchafer on 08-08-2008 06:06 PM
Message Edited by DougSchafer on 08-08-2008 06:12 PM

How to create rescue and recovery partition for my thinkpad edge 11

Hi,
I'm using thinkpad edge 11 with win 7 home Premium 32 bit.
Before, i tried to restore to factory setting, there is a drive partition of rescue and recovery in my thinkpad.
But, when I was trying to restore to factory setting, I missed the steps and made the drive partition of rescue and recovery formatted.
So, now, I don't have it again in my thinkpad.
Then, after that, appeared another drive partition in my thinkpad with name S: Sytem, beside C: WIndow7 and D: Data.
So, I need the solution from you all as knowing more about thinkpad edge in this forum.
1. How I remove the unkwon drive, S: System from my thinkpad?
2. How I can create again the rescue and recovery partition on my thinkpad(wih Win 7 Home premium 32bit installer inside plus all the drivers)?
Thanks...

Hello mate,
To restore the Q: partition you have to use the Lenovo Recovery Discs. Hope you burn them before erasing the partition, otherwise you have to order them from Lenovo.
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Rescue and Recovery -- How to Backup the Partition

Hi there, folks.
I'm trying to create a backup of the default factory image on a partition of my harddrive. I originally ran Windows 7 64 bit Professional. I tried out Windows 8 and just this past weekend returned to Windows 7 with a friend's copy of it. However, Rescue and Recovery doesn't seem to recognize that the partition contains the backup image.
Mainly, I'm confused because the current version of ThinkVantage and R&R is completely different than the software that, just a month ago, was constantly reminding me of the partition and that it needed to be restored. Any help?
Does anyone know how to backup JUST a partition? Thank you!

One work-around that I have used successfully when I had an Acronis image but no R&R image is to do a full restore to factory using the factory recovery media (from Lenovo or home made on the TP) and then restoring only the windows partition from the non-Lenovo image. This should leave the service partition, the MBR, and track 0 in the Lenovo mystery mode, and let the think button work, and you get your cloned up-to-date OS.
I should add that in one of my experiments w/multi-booting and fiddling partitions, after using this procedure with Vista on my T400, vista wouldn't boot. It required a bootable vista DVD to run the vista boot repair procedure (twice). After that, "think" and vista booted as expected. I don't know of any way to do that with Lenovo install media. If no MS Vista DVD is available, there are stripped down versions with the repair stuff only floating around the web. The usual precautions re downloads apply. There may be manual ways to repair the vista boot stuff that I haven't found yet.
I can't say with certainty that this will always be necessary. I may have screwed something up during the two step restore process.
The magic "think" button is (potentially) pretty useful, but it and the "new improved" vista boot process are a little too fragile, IMNSHO.
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Difference between the Q partition recoverable Boot and the Rescue and Recovery??

Hi,
What is the difference between the two?? Sorry if this is a stupid question lol Can I still back up from previous state using rescue and recovery if i do not have the Q partition?? b/c i do not think I will ever bring this laptop to the factory state again.

someotherguy wrote:
One tip: make sure your external HDD is bootable by pressing F12 at Lenovo BIOS screen and choosing the USB HDD. If it's not bootable, then use the "create rescue media" function of Rescue & Recovery to make it bootable.
If you do this, look very carefully for a check box that says something like "preserve existing data" or your drive will be formatted before being made bootable. You backup will be lost. You can always make another one, but sure as bread falls butter-side down, your HD will fail between formatting and the next backup...
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How to partition HD in order to load the rescue and recovery backup

HI All,
Can anyone tell me how to properly partition the HD in order for the Blue Button(thinkVantage) to work again?
Does it matter in the order how you create the partition...? (I create one partition then separate them via Partition Manager)
I load the image back via Norton Ghost v10... but the Rescue and Recovery section is not responding... I remember the section is created as (EISA system) as it is reported by Disk Manger (not extended or logical type)
Please help here...
thanks

One work-around that I have used successfully when I had an Acronis image but no R&R image is to do a full restore to factory using the factory recovery media (from Lenovo or home made on the TP) and then restoring only the windows partition from the non-Lenovo image. This should leave the service partition, the MBR, and track 0 in the Lenovo mystery mode, and let the think button work, and you get your cloned up-to-date OS.
I should add that in one of my experiments w/multi-booting and fiddling partitions, after using this procedure with Vista on my T400, vista wouldn't boot. It required a bootable vista DVD to run the vista boot repair procedure (twice). After that, "think" and vista booted as expected. I don't know of any way to do that with Lenovo install media. If no MS Vista DVD is available, there are stripped down versions with the repair stuff only floating around the web. The usual precautions re downloads apply. There may be manual ways to repair the vista boot stuff that I haven't found yet.
I can't say with certainty that this will always be necessary. I may have screwed something up during the two step restore process.
The magic "think" button is (potentially) pretty useful, but it and the "new improved" vista boot process are a little too fragile, IMNSHO.
Z.
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Rescue and Recovery with only one partition, what will happen? Thanks!

Hello, everyone! This is my question: If I do a clean installing of Windows 7 with only one partition(the C and I install the Rescue and Recovery tool, when I make a backup of the system by using the Rescue and Recovery then the backup file will be stored in the partition C:. So when I restore the system with the backup file later, if I can succeed and what will happen? Thanks.
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Backups and restores will still work. The risk is if something happens to your hard drive, then you would lose the backups as well. For this reason it's a much better idea to store your backups somewhere else, such as USB hard drive or network.

Rescue and Recovery PARTITION not accessible

Hi,
I just wanted to reset my Thinkpad R52 (1846-CG) back to factory settings and therefore attempted to enter the RnR partion. After I selected the appropriate option in the boot menu, I got the following error:
Inf file txtsetup.sif is corrupt or missing, status 18.
Setup cannot continue. Press any key to exit.
I googled this error message, but all I could find was help concerning Bart PE and windows installation from USB-drives.... However this isn't my Problem...
Can anyone please help me on fixing this?
Every Idea, hint and/or suggestion will be very much appriciated, THANK YOU !

Hi,
the file "txtsetup.sif" is a so called "load file". This means, that this file usually contains informations on the load process , when you are starting into a Windows Pre Desktop area. This file hase always his specific loaction and in your case, what the error message want to tell you is that this file is missing and therefore the system has no imput on how to load all the files and library files, so that it can load the GUI <Graphical user interface> so that you can use your mouse, etc.
So in this situation I assume following:
You get this message, when you start the system and press F11, or the blue ThinkVantage button and after a short while it just shows you this error.
So here is what I would do:
- if possible start into Windows
- start the repair Rescue and Recovery => this should trigger RnR to "recheck" if all the files and folders are on the correct loaction and should basicaly repair also this file.
Please note, that you must use the same RnR version, so that nothing will go wrong. I would advice to check localy on your system or user Add/Remove programs to reinstall RnR.
Let me know, how it went.
Unforatunatelly I have not experienced such situation with RnR, but I did experienced it during my multiple Image deployments, where I have used WINPE.
Cheers

How to install "Rescue and recovery" on a new harddisk (T60)

My T60 has a 60gb harddisk and I want to upgrade to a 160gb.
I need to know how to install this rescue and recovery on the new disk.
Can some one help me out here
I can imagine for example to create this (hidden) partition with Partition Magic, but how to continue ?

Hello,
Have you considered either cloning your old 60GB hard disk drive to the new 160GB model, or using your recovery discs to install a fresh copy of the operating system plus ThinkVantage utilities to the new hard disk drive?
Regards,
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