Rescue and Recovery -- How to Backup the Partition

Hi there, folks.
I'm trying to create a backup of the default factory image on a partition of my harddrive. I originally ran Windows 7 64 bit Professional. I tried out Windows 8 and just this past weekend returned to Windows 7 with a friend's copy of it. However, Rescue and Recovery doesn't seem to recognize that the partition contains the backup image.
Mainly, I'm confused because the current version of ThinkVantage and R&R is completely different than the software that, just a month ago, was constantly reminding me of the partition and that it needed to be restored. Any help?
Does anyone know how to backup JUST a partition? Thank you!

One work-around that I have used successfully when I had an Acronis image but no R&R image is to do a full restore to factory using the factory recovery media (from Lenovo or home made on the TP) and then restoring only the windows partition from the non-Lenovo image.  This should leave the service partition, the MBR, and track 0 in the Lenovo mystery mode, and let the think button work, and you get your cloned up-to-date OS.
I should add that in one of my experiments w/multi-booting and fiddling partitions, after using this procedure with Vista on my T400, vista wouldn't boot. It required a bootable vista DVD to run the vista boot repair procedure (twice).  After that, "think" and vista booted as expected.  I don't know of any way to do that with Lenovo install media.  If no MS Vista DVD is available, there are stripped down versions with the repair stuff only floating around the web.  The usual precautions re downloads apply.  There may be manual ways to repair the vista boot stuff that I haven't found yet.
I can't say with certainty that this will always be necessary.  I may have screwed something up during the two step restore process.
The magic "think" button is (potentially) pretty useful, but it and the "new improved" vista boot process are a little too fragile, IMNSHO.
Z.
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    00000084 12:03:25 πμ SFilter!SfFsControlMountVolume:              Mount volume success for          8A9E9848 "\Device\Harddisk1\DR3", status=00000000 
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    00000088 12:03:25 πμ SFilter!SfAttachToMountedDevice:             Attaching 8A1BF1F0 to volume      89CDA888 "\Device\Harddisk0\DR0" 
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    00000090 12:03:25 πμ SFilter!SfFsControlMountVolume:              Mount volume success for          8A9E9848 "\Device\Harddisk1\DR3", status=00000000 
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    00000092 12:03:25 πμ SFilter!SfFsControlMountVolume:              Mount volume - attached successfully to      8A9E9848 "\Device\Harddisk1\DR3", status=00000000 
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    Given all the problems I had with the service partition and R&R next time I'm going to buy a different make and model.
    Dominic Manchee

    Hi,
    I think your laptop is not set to boot from the DVD-rom. You have to 1st go to bios and set the 1st boot device to be the dvd-rom. After that, insert the recovery startup disc and it should take you to the recovery menu.
    BTW, you should be able to recover from the service partition as long as you have not deleted it, even if windows is screwed up. Make sure you press the blue Thinkvantage button  or the F11 key at startup and only then will it take you to the recovery menu.
    Hope it works.
    Message Edited by zachareth on 04-23-2009 11:08 AM

  • How to use the rescue and recovery, and the product recovery discs ?

    Hi everyone,
    I've just recently became a new owner of a T61, and really enjoying it. I haven't had a chance yet to test-drive the lenovo phone support, as I have not yet screwed anything up that bad that required their help. I did try a clean factory reinstall from the service partition and it worked great. I would like to find out, how does one use the rescue and recovery startup disc, and the product recovery discs that I created myself? From my previous experience with Dell and HP, I only had to insert the first one and restart the computer, and the rest followed. But with ThinkPads, if I ever wanted to bring it to a clean factory state using those discs, do I use rescue and recovery first, followed by the product recovery? I'm curious, what is the difference between the two? 
    T61 (7658CTO), T9300, 3GB, 250GB, XP Pro
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    blake_ibm wrote:
    Hi! I'm blake
    There is no diff between the two... One is on  the Hard Drive and the other on CD/DVD.
    Having the HDD version (pre-installed) is a good for trouble shooting.  It uses a whole diff O/S on a whole diff partition (not C.
    So if you are having problems and boot to RnR (via F11), and those problems go away. you know your issue is software related. If you still have the same problems probly Hardware related...  IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO TAKE WINDOWS OUT OF THE PROBLEM.
    Other then that. You can re-image another HDD from disks, you can't do that with the F11 version.
    dose all that make sense?
    Hi blake_ibm,
    Thanks. All this makes perfect sense to me, but that's not what I'm asking for. My question is this: if I wanted to bring my notebook to its factory shipped condition using my recovery cd's, how do I do that? Do I insert cd1 first and then restart the notebook, or do I just insert it without restarting it, or perhaps I should use first the rescue and recovery?
    You said that there is no difference between the two, but what two are you talking about man? I am not comparing cd recovery to partition recovery. I am talking about rescue and recovery cd, with system recovery cd's. These are the two things that I'm talking about.
    I'm really grateful for all replies, but please people, read the question first !!!
    I would really appreciate if someone could explain the steps involved in performing a clean factory recovery, using the cd's, and not the recovery partition. I just want to know for the future, in case one day I have to do it. That is all I'm asking.
    T61 (7658CTO), T9300, 3GB, 250GB, XP Pro

  • Rescue and Recovery 4 and X31 HPA Restore Your Backups

    Good morning!
    Installed a new hard drive on my X31. I used a purchased set of official restore media to do a clean install of Windows XP with the HPA Predesktop Area in place.
    Two weeks later all of my Windows and ThinkPad updates are complete and I am ready for a clean backup.
    I installed Rescue and Recovery 4.23 and after a false start, I successfully made a backup to a USB Hard Drive that will boot into ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery. The Windows software seems to be fully functional.
    On normal bootup, however, if I use F11 or the Access IBM button, I am taken to the original Predesktop HPA interface -- so the partition is really there. The Factory Restore appears to now be functioning if I ever wanted to use it.
    My problem (or questions) relates to the "Restore Your Backups" icon. When I select it, I get the message: "IBM Rapid Restore PC is not installed. Press the enter key to reboot to Windows and install IBM Rapid Restore PC."
    Therefore, that portion of the HPA is not accessible.
    And, therefore, other than a factory restore, there is no way to run restore from the HPA.
    So, here are my questions:
    1. Is there anyway to put the Rescue and Recovery 4 predesktop area in this HPA?
    2. If so, would it wipe out the Factory Restore option?
    3. Should I have made at least one backup with "IBM Rapid Restore PC" before the "Rescue and Recovery 4" installer removed it?
    4. Is there any space on the HPA I can recover?
    5. Is there a tool or method to delete the "Restore Your Backups" icon if it is non-functional?
    This may all seem not that important but I do care about this awesome X31 and I really would like to know how all of these competing technologies interface with each other.
    Thanks for any help.,
    Charlie

    > ... it does not support X30 or X31, this could be part of the problem.
    It also says that it *** may *** work on other systems. My experience is that if the IBM/Lenovo software supports the X32 (and RNR4 does), then it will work just fine on the X31 (example: Access Connections; exceptions: drivers that are specific to the very few hardware differences like CDC daughter cards -- Bluetooth).
    The existing version was uninstalled and it was "way older" than what is covered in those special instructions (thanks, I did check it out -- no directory or utility present).
    This is probably the end point for me -- good advice: "If that does not work, and if R&R under Windows works, you might create Recovery media and then boot from that if you want to restore from backups."
    So, here is one new idea and one new confusion:
    The last "official" RNR that supports the X31 was version 3.1 but it contains this somewhat cryptic (to me) caveat:
    Consideration 12 
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    to as PARTIES, and have the Rescue and Recovery program installed
    will not be able to boot into either the PARTIES or Rescue and
    Recovery workspace after recovering the original factory contents.
    To enable the PARTIES area again, restore a backup using either the
    Rescue and Recovery program in the Windows environment or by booting
    from rescue media and then uninstall the Rescue and Recovery program.
    My thought: Should I uninstall RNR4, install RNR3.1, and then upgrade to RNR4?
    My confusion: There are apparently two types of predesktop areas: HPA and Type 12.
    Do RNR3 and RNR4 only use Type 12? If so, can it coexist with the HPA, can it replace the HPA on its own, or do RNR3 and RNR4 not install the Type 12 space nor update the HPA if the installer finds an intact HPA?
    To recap, what I have now is an HPA as it would have existed in 2004. I have a working RNR4 in Windows. The Access IBM button and F11 boot to the HPA. What I would like is an RNR4 predesktop area that can do a factory restore.
    Any more help would be greatly appreciated!
    Thanks,
    Charlie

  • Ideas to improve the Rescue and Recovery System

    Hi,
    some weeks ago I ned to restore my system, while this process there was some difficulties with the Rescue and Recovery. But First my configuration:
    I'm using a T61p with Windows Vista Ultimate installed.
    On the System there are 5 Partitions
    1. Rescue and Recovery
    2. Windows Bootstrap
    3. BitLocker Encrypted Windows Partition
    4. Linux /boot
    5. Encrypted Linux LVM
    So, one morning I tried to start my ThinkPad and nothing worked anymore. After a Short time I found out that the boot sector of the windows bootstrap partition was corrupted. The Linux Partition worked fine and was startable with a GRUB CD-Rom.
    Ich checked out the Rescue and Recovery system and was sad that I isn't possible to recover the boot sector of the bootstrap partition. The only way to rescue my system was to reinstall windows at all!
    Thats a bad solution, because you can recover the boot sector with every OEM-DVD of Windows Vista, but this DVD is not available for a ThinkPad user.
    So I backuped my files and reinstalled the system. While the reinstallation process rescue and recovery gives the option to install windows on C:. But on such a multiboot configuration it is not very clear what drive C: is. After some experiment I think he is taking the first parition after Rescue and Recovery or the first free space after it. At this place it would be much better if I can choose a parition for the installation.
    So, if a Lenovo engineer is reading this, please think about to:
    - Include some tools like boot sector recovering in the Rescue and  Recovery system
    - Adding a mode where you can choose the parition to install Windows.
    Over and above that I'm really happy with my ThinkPad.
    Thanks for reading.

    Greetings,
    This isn't so much a reply to Cobelius, or a solution, but a commiseration of sorts.  Or at least an "I hear ya, buddy, I wish they'd improve some things about Rescue and Recovery, too."
    I notice that no one else has replied to this thread.  I hope at least that someone will read these posts, and pass 'em on to the appropriate developers.
    Here's my story:
    I am, overall, extremely happy with my brand, spanking new T500.  So far, I'm only running a single OS, Vista Business 64.
    However, I did make the following 'tweaks' to my setup, which brings out the flaws in the Rescue and Recovery software:
    1) I used Truecrypt 6.1a to encrypt my system partition (leaving the original rescue partition intact)
    (Side Note:  Where my original drive C came with tons of empty space, I used DISKPART to shrink it a bit an created another primary partition as drive D.  Hey, why the heck not?  Originally, I wanted TrueCrypt to encrypt the entire drive, but this failed.  Truecrypt said this was due to a hardware failure, but 20 hours of my life wasted scanning the drive with HDD Regenerator 1.51 revealed no bad sectors.  So now Drive D is encrypted as an ordinary TrueCrypt container and mounted upon login. I'm okay with this solution,  but if anyone wants to research why TrueCrypt couldn't do the whole disk, you have my thanks in advance.)
    2) I bought a Maxtor BlackArmor(tm) hardware-encrypted USB external drive to use for my backups.  I successfully used the Lenovo Rescue and Recovery tool to both create specific file backups as well as to image my entire drive C onto the BlackArmor device, once I mounted it (by running a built-in executable and supplying it with my secret password)
    3) I set a Lenovo BIOS password for unlocking the boot hard drive.
    So far, so good.  I type the BIOS drive password, then theTrueCrypt password, and Vista takes over 12 minutes to become usable and, well, that's a Microsoft issue, isn't it?
    But, here's the deal: WHAT IF I CAN'T BOOT FROM THE HARD DRIVE ANYMORE?  Well, TrueCrypt made me create a bootable rescue CD which can restore my encrypted boot sector or permanently decrypt my hard drive.  What it can also do is let me press the ESC key to boot without providing a password, which does a supposedly wonderful thing -- since it fails to boot my drive C, it takes me straight into the Lenovo Rescue And Recovery session.
    The problem is, the Lenovo boot (version 4) takes me AUTOMATICALLY into a self-repair utility which wastes another 10 minutes of my time to finally tell me --d'uh-- that my boot sector is 'corrupted'  (it isn't; it's merely ENCRYPTED by TrueCrypt.  As it should be).
    FLAW NUMBER 1:  Rescue and Recovery should provide a default menu where automatic diagnosis is a CHOICE the user can elect not to make, or abort if it has begun.
    FLAW NUMBER 2: You guys should enhance what appears to be a Vista PE environment (or BartPE, or whatever) with a few utilities, including an Explorer-like browser to examine the disk (which would snow nothing in my case, as my drives are encrypted),  and a command prompt, and the ability to launch executables.  The environment should also recognize USB drives.
    As it happens,  I used a third-party Vista PE rescue CD, Active@ Partition Recovery, to boot an environment having the utilities I needed.  Using this tool, I was able to recognize a USB key that had TrueCrypt installed in 'traveller' mode (no windows registry keys needed).  Running this app and providing my truecrypt password enabled me to unlock my Drive C, albeit by mounting it as another drive letter.  This made it possible to read and write to my disk.
     The encrypted Maxtor drive is visible, too, from this boot environment,  but it appears as a CD-ROM drive, and yields no secrets until you run an executable file on it and enter the drive's password. And that worked, too.  So I could find files to copy over to my hard drive, if I needed to.
    However, in order to RESTORE files to my drive, I'd still need to be able to run Rescue and Recovery, or at least the Recovery portion.  Which  brings me to:
    FUNDAMENTAL FLAW NUMBER 3:  You need to create a Recovery tool that can run from within an external USB drive, without requiring shared .DLLs in various subfolders or windows registry entries.  Lord knows, I certainly tried to copy  RestoreNow.exe from C:\Program Files (x86)\Lenovo\Rescue and Recovery onto my Maxtor drive, along with whatever DLLs it called for, but it was hopeless.  The damned thing just wouldn't run from the USB drive on the PE environment.
    The way I see it, then, is that there really is no way to restore my hard drive should I suffer a catastrophic failure.  Major bummer.
    FUNDAMENTAL FLAW NUMBER 4: When I got my laptop, I created a series of recovery disks using the Lenovo supplied software. Booting with the first CD, however, only proved depressing, as I had to agree that the ONLY purpose for this CD was to recover my PC to factory-shipped condition.  Which meant erasing my drive and restoring it with the contents of the other DVDs.  But I want to restore what I backed up with Rescue and Recovery!  My life SINCE the laptop shipped from the factory!   Geez, Louise, why not let me choose to do THAT, too?
    (Of course, the boot CD would need to allow me to execute the Maxtor program that unlocks my encrypted USB drive, and also let me execute TrueCrypt to unlock my hard drive.)
    I sure hope someone forwards this to a developer who'll take it seriously, after s/he stops chuckling.  You guys should just ship a usable Vista PE rescue CD with every laptop, I think.  And a recovery-only tool that doesn't need DLLs or Registry Entries to run. It would help in so many ways.
    In the meantime, I guess I'd better do all I can to ensure my laptop's hard drive doesn't die on me.
    Again, other than for this teeny problem that "don't amount to a hill o' beans in this crazy world," I'm really happy with my T500.
    Thanks for reading this, too.  And happy holidays.

  • ERROR occured when update the ""Rescue and Recovery 4.2"".....​.

    dear all, i'm a newbie with the TP notebook, and i'm a chinese , sorry for my POOR english !!
    hope you all will understand what i explain now......
    i just buy a T61 last nite, but when i try to "UPDATE" my system, two error message shown to me.........
    Error 25013: Error obtaining the Rescue and Environment drive letter
    Error 25012: Error accessing the Rescue and Recovery service partition
    at last, i can't finish the "Rescue and Recovery UPdate" anyway !!
    and i've try to download the "Rescue and Recovery 4.2" from the web manually, but got the same error occured !!
    anyone try before ?
    pls help me to solve the problem !!
    P.S. because i just buy my T61 within 24 hrs, i'm so worry about this !!
    thanks so much !!
    Regards

    Hi Mark,
    Good idea!  No luck though, although my R&R partition is still healthy and boots nicely.  I'm wondering if the solution wasn't actually the removal of your second hard drive.  Other threads discuss how getting rid of network shares helped similar problems, as R&R wanted to use drive letters that were already taken by network drives.  Me, I've got an "F:" that's my swap partition and a "G:" that's my fat32 partition.  If the R&R upgrade program is hardcoded to mount the hidden partition as "F:" (for example), rather than trying to dynamically grab the first available drive letter, I could understand what was going on.
    I'd unmount my F and G partitions if I knew how to do so in windows, but don't know of an nondestructive way to do this.
    With a specific idea like this my normal (linux) next step would be to go read the source and find out if that really is the problem.  Can't do that in this case unfortunately, but if a Lenovite happens to be reading this forum and can direct me to the proper place to submit a real bug report, I'll do so.  Can only find service call info on the website, which doesn't help to submit a bug.
       Alec

  • Service Partition - Rescue and Recovery installati​on fails (not enough free space)

    Im am aware about  former posts to this subject  on this forum, but they didn't answer all my questions, so I reopened  the subject. 
    I tried to install "Rescue and Recovery" on T60 with win XP  Pro and got the following message:
    'There is not enough free space in the boot sector to install the Rescue and Recovery boot manager'
    I followed the   solution in "Rescue and Recovery installation fails") from 08-09-2008 03:03 AM
    and  created a hidden partition with Parted Magic but the rescue and recovery still fails with the same message.
    Somewhere in the forum I read that the original service partition has a special format and not ntfs. 
    Could somebody tell me is it true or not ?
    How can I rebuild this service partition ?
    Do I need special setting, flags there ?
    Is it possible  to rebuild this partition without recovery CDs at all ?
    Actually I'm wondering to,  about the error message. It is saying '"..There is not enough free space in the boot sector ..." . 
    Is it possible  that the boot sector is the problem and not the service partition ?
    How can I fix that ?
    Thanks in advance if somebody helps.

    I have a 4-year-old ThinkPad R51. Because I was getting intermittent boot-up error messages--"Rescue and Recovery has encountered a problem and needs to close"--with ver. 4.0, I tried to upgrade to ver. 4.2.  Per instructions, I first removed ver. 4.0 using Windows Control Panel.  Then each attempt to install 4.2 failed with the message: "Error 25025. There is not enough free space on the computer to install or upgrade the Rescue and Recovery environment."  Just before that error message popped up in center-screen, I got a Windows message at lower right saying "You are running out of space on SERVICEV001 (Z:}"  Of course, there was no way I could view partition Z (that I knew of).
    Thanks to the helpful messages above, I downloaded Parted Magic (http://partedmagic.com), burned a boot CD per its instructions, and re-booted with that CD.  Using GParted, I saw that my SERVICEV001 partition was merely 590 MB, and 587 MB was in use.  So I reduced my C partition by 500 MB and added 500 MB to the Z partition, raising it to 1090 MB.  Then I was able to re-boot into Windows and the installation of Rescue and Recovery 4.2 was error-free.
    Out of curiosity, I again re-booted with the Parted Magic CD to see how much space on the Z partition was taken by the RnR ver. 4.2 installation.  To my surprise, it showed that still only 587 MB was in use, and 503 MB remained unused.
    I thank those in this forum whose messages gave me the needed guidance.  And I thanked the author of Parted Magic with a $10 donation, as I hope other users of his open source program will do.
    Message Edited by DougSchafer on 08-08-2008 06:06 PM
    Message Edited by DougSchafer on 08-08-2008 06:12 PM

  • How to install Rescue and Recovery 4.21 on Windows 2003

    There should be a good amount of users running Windows 2003 on their thinkpad for various reasons. As much as I tried, I could not get Rescue and Recovery's MSI to install on my X61 running Win2003 R2 SP2, despite attempts to modify the Setup.ini file.
    the changes made in setup.ini:
    [Win2003Server]
    MajorVer=5
    MinorVer=2
    MinorVerMax=3
    BuildNo=3790
    PlatformId=2
    The returned installer error is "The current operating system is not supported for running Rescue and Recovery. Supported operating systems includes Microsoft Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 or Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or later".
    This is such a shame as I'm pretty sure RR would run just fine on win2003 as both WinXP and win2003 are based on the same underlying technologies and code. Please advice if there's any method such as a command switch for MSI installer to suppress OS detection error or any modification that can be made to setup.ini to get it to install on win2003 or any utility that can be used to modify MSI files and database? Thanks!
    Message Edited by Xseriesfanboy on 08-31-2008 08:26 PM
    Message Edited by Xseriesfanboy on 08-31-2008 08:30 PM
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Alrighty..I've manage to google a hack to this problem of getting Rescue and Recovery to install on Windows 2003. So let this post be a guide to how to get this done:
    Getting the tools to modify Rescue and Recovery MSI (Windows Installer)
    Download and install Orca MSI editor from http://astebner.sts.winisp.net/Tools/Orca.zip
    Review http://ravi1337.blogspot.com/2007/05/orca-msi-editor-make-any-software.html, this guide should give you a good idea what you'll be doing with this tool.
    Download Rescue and Recovery™ 4.21 from Lenovo
     Download Rescue and Recovery™ 4.21 for Windows XP (32-bit) or Windows 2000  from http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/license.do?filename=thinkvantage_en/z652_setup_rnr42_016c...
    Ensure you are downloading full install with all language pack to avoid any missing installation file due to regional settings
    Run the installer and see that all files are extracted accordingly.
    Modification of Rescue and Recovery Installer
    Delete all files in C:\Documents and Settings\(User Account Name)\Local Settings\Temp\ this will prevent confusion on which files are unpacked and created by RR installer
    Extract z652_setup_rnr42_016c.exe into a folder named z652_setup_rnr42_016c.
    Execute tvtrnr42.exe
    The MSI installer is then unpacked to the following default directory: C:\Documents and Settings\(User Account Name)\Local Settings\Temp\. Note that the installer creates two directories for installation of RR, that are {F151F2B3-0C32-44D3-90E2-E639B8024622} and _isXXXX <--- 4 randomly generated digits
    The folder _isXXXX contain Rescue and Recovery.msi
    On the first run of the installer, the following error will be shown "The current operating system is not supported for running Rescue and Recovery. Supported operating systems includes Microsoft Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 or Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or later". DO NOT CLICK OK! This is cause the installer to purge all installation files and related directories in the temp directory. Just leave the error window as it is without clicking the OK button!
    Copy all TVT files from folder z652_setup_rnr42_016c into both directories
    Modify setup.ini entry for Win2003Server with notepad and save changes:
    [Win2003Server]
    MajorVer=5
    MinorVer=2
    MinorVerMax=3
    BuildNo=3790
    PlatformId=2
    Right-click on Rescue and Recovery.msi and edit with Orca
    Go to LaunchCondition Table
    Drop the following rows and save changes:
    (((VersionNT=501 AND ServicePackLevel>=1)OR (VersionNT=500 AND ServicePackLevel>=3)) AND WINSERVER=0) OR Installed- The current operating system is not supported for running [ProductName].  Supported operating systems include Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 2000 with Service Pack 3 or later and Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or later.
    IEEXISTS=1 OR Installed - [ProductName] requires Microsoft(R) Internet Explorer version 5.5 or higher. You cannot install the Rescue and Recovery program without this version of Internet Explorer.
    INCOMPAPPNAME=0 OR Installed - [INCOMPAPPNAME] is installed and is incompatible with this version of [ProductName].  This application cannot be installed.  To install [ProductName], uninstall [INCOMPAPPNAME] and then restart this setup.
    Not SGEWRONGVERSION OR Installed - [INCOMPAPPNAME] is installed and is incompatible with this version of [ProductName].  This application cannot be installed.  To install [ProductName], uninstall [INCOMPAPPNAME] and then restart this setup.
    When you're done with these modification, re-run Rescue and Recovery.msi without closing the previous error window. Rescue and Recovery should now install without any glitch! Good Luck!
    Message Edited by Xseriesfanboy on 09-01-2008 06:37 AM
    Message Edited by Xseriesfanboy on 09-01-2008 06:38 AM

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