Rescue and recovery on T60

I cannot install rescue and recovery from SWtools.
An error message comes up: not enough space on boot sector to install the boot manager of rNr.
Any idea what happend or what to do?
thx in advanced

Hi migi66,
First I recommend downloading and installing the latest version of RnR:- http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-4Q2QAK.html
If that doesn't solve the issue, try proceeding solutions:-
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T61-and-prior-T-series-ThinkPad/Rescue-And-Recovery-On-Clean-Install-Of-...
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkVantage-Technologies/Rescue-and-Recovery-installation-fails-not-eno...
Hope it helps.
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Service Partition - Rescue and Recovery installation fails (not enough free space)

Im am aware about former posts to this subject on this forum, but they didn't answer all my questions, so I reopened the subject.
I tried to install "Rescue and Recovery" on T60 with win XP Pro and got the following message:
'There is not enough free space in the boot sector to install the Rescue and Recovery boot manager'
I followed the solution in "Rescue and Recovery installation fails") from 08-09-2008 03:03 AM
and created a hidden partition with Parted Magic but the rescue and recovery still fails with the same message.
Somewhere in the forum I read that the original service partition has a special format and not ntfs.
Could somebody tell me is it true or not ?
How can I rebuild this service partition ?
Do I need special setting, flags there ?
Is it possible to rebuild this partition without recovery CDs at all ?
Actually I'm wondering to, about the error message. It is saying '"..There is not enough free space in the boot sector ..." .
Is it possible that the boot sector is the problem and not the service partition ?
How can I fix that ?
Thanks in advance if somebody helps.

I have a 4-year-old ThinkPad R51. Because I was getting intermittent boot-up error messages--"Rescue and Recovery has encountered a problem and needs to close"--with ver. 4.0, I tried to upgrade to ver. 4.2. Per instructions, I first removed ver. 4.0 using Windows Control Panel. Then each attempt to install 4.2 failed with the message: "Error 25025. There is not enough free space on the computer to install or upgrade the Rescue and Recovery environment." Just before that error message popped up in center-screen, I got a Windows message at lower right saying "You are running out of space on SERVICEV001 (Z:}" Of course, there was no way I could view partition Z (that I knew of).
Thanks to the helpful messages above, I downloaded Parted Magic (http://partedmagic.com), burned a boot CD per its instructions, and re-booted with that CD. Using GParted, I saw that my SERVICEV001 partition was merely 590 MB, and 587 MB was in use. So I reduced my C partition by 500 MB and added 500 MB to the Z partition, raising it to 1090 MB. Then I was able to re-boot into Windows and the installation of Rescue and Recovery 4.2 was error-free.
Out of curiosity, I again re-booted with the Parted Magic CD to see how much space on the Z partition was taken by the RnR ver. 4.2 installation. To my surprise, it showed that still only 587 MB was in use, and 503 MB remained unused.
I thank those in this forum whose messages gave me the needed guidance. And I thanked the author of Parted Magic with a $10 donation, as I hope other users of his open source program will do.
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How to install "Rescue and recovery" on a new harddisk (T60)

My T60 has a 60gb harddisk and I want to upgrade to a 160gb.
I need to know how to install this rescue and recovery on the new disk.
Can some one help me out here
I can imagine for example to create this (hidden) partition with Partition Magic, but how to continue ?

Hello,
Have you considered either cloning your old 60GB hard disk drive to the new 160GB model, or using your recovery discs to install a fresh copy of the operating system plus ThinkVantage utilities to the new hard disk drive?
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T60-hassle with Rescue and Recovery -- but, still in Boot or Start-up

Hi, using an Undelete-program I finally managed to remove a failing Rescue and Recovery (RnR) 3.01.x. Now, trying to install RnR 4.21.x, it says that it's 'not enough space in Startup'.
Q: How do I ensure a correct reset of either smb or whatever further space used by RnR, making space available for RnR 4.21 boot routines?
Running a T60 -- Type 1951-45G.
Anyone, like Herik or such having an answer?
//bopper

Hi,
maybe one of the below links may help you out:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-73630#3
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-73630#10
Although based on your description, it might be, that none of it will fit you.
OK, so in case you uninstalled older verison of RnR, then please check whether this previous version of RnR was using a physical Recovery partition. If it does, then this error might indicate, that this partition is too small for the new files that should be copied to this location from the new version of RnR.
I have also seen this kind of error by installation on Win7, where the RnR application tried to place the preboot files into the 100MB partiiton, that is by default created by Win7 installation disk. As you mentioned, that you have been using 3.x version, then I assume, that you are on XP as the OS, Is that right?
One of the other options might be, that your antivir might be blocking the functionality/installation of RnR as RnR is accessing protected system files.
Also please make sure, that all the files from the older RnR version are deleted and you have the latest version of CSS (Client Security Solution) also installed on your system.
Any additional info is appreciated, as I can try to repro this situation in our lab.
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I installed Win 7 Pro 64 on my T400, ran TVSU and installed R&R 4.3. Fortunately, I didn't read those instructions first, or I might not have done it
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How to install Rescue and Recovery CD to my T42

I ordered Rescue and Recovery CD to install my T42, and I got 8 CDs, one is independant, and other 7 CDs are for T42, so I just wonder how do install it, I mean use which CD, or which is used firstly, anyway, could someone tell me step-by-step to rescue my laptop.
Thanks a bunch.

Well, you should wipe the entire drive before using the recovery disks, including the original recovery partition if it's corrupted.
The disks will create a new recovery partition.
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T42 Rescue and Recovery V4.0

I reinstalled my entire system from disk, then downloaded all the most up to date drivers and downloads for my model type. When I start rescue and recovery to back up my system it kicks me out. I exit at that time and then go back in and it says a backup is in progress do not power off. Why would it kick me off and still run? Is the Version 4.0 the right one for a T42 2378DTU?

ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery v4.2 is available to enterprises at this moment only, you can buy it from IBM parts for $75 + state tax + shipping though.
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How to manage Rescue and Recovery Backups

Hi I've been using disk image backup solutions since the days of powerquests Drive Image. And have had my days with Ghost and Acronis Trueimage. I recently built a clean Vista image on my T400, and I'd like to take advantage of the Lenovo Rescue and Recovery 4.21 tool since it the recovery technology is already part of my system and I have tested it once.
I'm used to the idea that a backup tool will produce an image file, which I can manage myself, moving to various media....hiding under my bed etc. With RnR, I've noticed it prefers to control the directory's where backups are placed (this is a bit annoying to me, but I can live with it, as long as it's isolated to the RRBackup directory - which it appears may not be the case). I do appreciate it's ability to specify various backup media locations (network, CD, 2nd HDD, USB) and recognize that it's a simple approach for basic usage.
Recently I've backed up my image to USB drive, and also to the local disk. I'd like to take that back up and split it up into DVD's and burn it to disk. I know there is a built in RnR feature which lets us copy backups from the local drive (why only local drive ??) to USB/Network/CD, but unfortunately the CD copy feature burns directly to my thinkpad burner...which is a CDR device, not a DVDR device. I'd like to use the DVDR device on my desktop...
Anyway, I'd like to know if there is more resources on how to manage RnR Backups. I found the following guide http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-70344.html (which is hard to get on Lenovo's site...google finds it better), I'm still reading it, but so far it appears more focused on the pre-desktop area than backup management.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Hi Danielle,
Consider this allegory; factory settings will make your thinkpad like a never driven 0 meter car [with reference to software]. Hence it will be far-flung from it's previous state. Apart from what you have already saved on memory stick, all settings and the software you have installed on the notebook will be lost.
I hope this helps.
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How to use Rescue and Recovery on a T43

Hello All-
Ok, this is probably a lame question, so please bear with me...
I have become infected with a nasty virus that has left me unable to load Windows. I am able to access Rescue and Recovery.
If I "rescue all the files that have been created or changed from my last backup", will that include the virus?
All I really need is "My Documents", but it sure would be convenient to have everything else, too.
I am embarrased to say that I have never fully backed up my system.
What's the best way to recover my system?
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Hi Danielle,
Consider this allegory; factory settings will make your thinkpad like a never driven 0 meter car [with reference to software]. Hence it will be far-flung from it's previous state. Apart from what you have already saved on memory stick, all settings and the software you have installed on the notebook will be lost.
I hope this helps.
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Rescue and Recovery will not open

I wanted to back up my system to an external hard drive after finding out that it hasn't been backed up in over 200 days even though when prompted periodically , I select the option to "back up now." However, it seems that neved did back up. When I tried to run Rescue and Recovery (4.21) from Start - All Programs - ThinkVantage - Rescue and Recovery, nothing happenend. I restarted my computer and this message came up when it rebooted :
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
"Runtime Error!
C:\Program Files\Lenovo\Rescue and Recovery\rrpservice.exe
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
Does anyone know how to fix this?

I do not recall 100% but I think I got a very similar error message, only worst situation. I had to replace HDD because the original HDD crashed. I installed a new HDD and when I went to re-store with the ORGINAL IBM LENOVO RnR + Product CD's, 7 in all, I got something like you got. I called Lenovo and someone in the service department told me that because my T60 was out of warrantly I needed to buy a new set of CD's ! Interesting hey, I told him that the Original CD's that came with the T60 had corrupted files and this from day 1. Anyway, long story short NO WIN XP as of yet. Good thing there is UBUNTU Linux. Good luck with issue.
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Rescue and Recovery restore does not work because of incorrect display size

I am unable to restore my system when booting Rescue and Recovery from the Service Partition or DVD. R&R configures my monitor resolution as 640x480x16 but displays as if there we many more pixels available. The result is that only a portion of the screen is visible and crucial commands are cut off and unusable.
I have read elsewhere that this might be corrected by updating the DisplayResolution parameter in the WINBOM.INI files found in the \MININT and \MININT\SYSTEM32 directories. I have tried this, setting DisplayResolution=1024x768x16, resetting to the default 640x480x16 and even removing the parameter altogether, all to no effect. My monitor always comes up at 640x480 and screens are always cut off.
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Hi hgirard,
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=341939#p341939
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Cannot Boot To Windows After Rescue And Recovery

I used the Rescue And Recovery disks (7 disks plus actually recovery cd) on my T42. I received the cd set direct from IBM. I've used the CDs in the past with no issues. This time after following the instructions and completing the restore, I cannot get the computer to boot to windows. It keeps going back to the Rescue And Recovery program. What can I do?

Refer to the following guide:
FAQ "How to use Recovery CD Disc Set".
"Also, if you get stuck after step 9 with Rescue and Recovery keeps on booting in a loop and not entering Windows then all you need to do is: GomJabbar wrote: While in Rescue and Recovery (with all CD's removed from your optical drive) you need to tell it to Restore Factory Contents. All the CD's really do is install Rescue and Recovery and the files needed to Restore Windows and the original Factory software."
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Rescue and Recovery -- Error 25011. A file required to install could not be located.

I have 2613CTO T60 with WinXP Pro SP3 and IE8.
RnR v4.21 is installed on my system.
I have downloaded this RnR v4.23 installation package -
tvtrnr423_017en.exe 227,523,448 (English) Rescue and Recovery 4.23 for Windows XP
but when trying to install an error occured with the following message:
Product: Rescue and Recovery -- Error 25011.A file required to install the Rescue and Recovery environment could not be located. This setup cannot proceed. Make sure that the correct .tvt file is located in the same folder as this setup package and restart this setup.
I also wanted to download this file to try installation again, but it missed indeed!
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Download the full install file including all supported languages (449MB) instead of files by language. It worked for me.
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Difficulty installing Rescue and Recovery 4.2 patch for Windows Vista

Which between System Update Installation History and Post-Installation Status Report should I believe, when they tell a different story?
When I run thinkVantage System Update, the post-intallation status report indicates that the following fails to install:
* Rescue and Recovery 4.2 patch for Windows Vista
* ThinkVantage Client Security Solution for Vista SP1
* Lenovo Wireless WAN Activation Patch
However, when I open the ThinkVantage System Update History Log, I read that the above updates have been installed.
Which one should I believe?
I'm willing to believe that the update has been installed, but whenever I run System Update, I keep getting the same message that the above three need to be installed.
Should I keep ignoring the message? If not, what else could I try?
I have a T60 running Vista with SP1 installed.

Hi privard,
Thanks for your feedback. Anyhow, let me see how i could help to sort this out for you.
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Rescue and Recovery after update from Windows Vista to 7

I've updated my 2 years old Lenovo T60 from the preinstalled Windows Vista to Windows 7. For short: I like it.
I kept the recovery partition but now want to update it, to keep it in sync with the current windows and Rescue and Recovery versions. By the way, due to earlier problems the system in this versions is not functional anymore. I tied to read the manual of Rescue and Recovery, but didn't get it...
Is their an "easy" way (or documentation) to accomplish that?
Thanks and Greetings

T60-user wrote:
I've updated my 2 years old Lenovo T60 from the preinstalled Windows Vista to Windows 7. For short: I like it.
I kept the recovery partition but now want to update it, to keep it in sync with the current windows and Rescue and Recovery versions. By the way, due to earlier problems the system in this versions is not functional anymore. I tied to read the manual of Rescue and Recovery, but didn't get it...
Is their an "easy" way (or documentation) to accomplish that?
Thanks and Greetings
The factory partition can't be updated - it is your recovery for what came out of the box with the system. You can create factory recovery CD's/DVD's and store them somewhere just in case, and then you should be able to remove that partition and reclaim the space. At that point, Rescue and Recovery for Win7 becomes your sole recovery option.
There is a lot of new architecture in the Win7 version of R&R so you can't "upgrade" it from Vista - you'll need to install the new version in Win7. It would probably be a good idea to burn your Vista Rescue and Recovery backups to CD/DVD before you upgrade, too.

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