Resizing in Photoshop, importing back to Aperture

Hey-
Thought I solved this, but alas I am humbled once again. I resize, not resample in Photoshop for a particular print, then when I save the changes and go back to Aperture and then reopen in Photoshop, I can't delete the crop action and retain my original file dimensions? In other words, I would like to reuse the work I did in Photoshop and then use a larger size for a different printing purpose.
Any ideas...? Thx!
Rob

You have a couple of options. I'll start with the preferred option:
1. Do all the editing in Photoshop that you need Photoshop to do but don't crop. Save the file and then crop it in Aperture where you can re-crop anytime. Or create multiple versions of the Photoshopped image in Aperture (Photos->Duplicate Version... menu or use the contextual menu) and make the different changes to each.
or
2. Do the initial editing in Photoshop and save back to Aperture. Then create multiple versions of this file in Aperture and re-open them in Photoshop to make the different changes.

Similar Messages

Aperture Export to Photoshop for PC and then Import Back to Aperture

Hi,
I need some advice: I have all my photos on Aperture 2. The person we hire to edit our photos works with Photoshop on Windows 7. What is the best approach so that I can export the aperture master files for him to enhance the pictures in Photoshop on his PC and then bring those edited photos back into our Aperture copy?
Thanks,
Aperture Learner

ApertureLearner wrote:
However, if you do it, what would be the most efficient way to do it?
Your best bet (if you are making adjustments in Aperture prior to sending) will be to export as PSD, 8-bit (to allow all filter compatibility), in the color space requested by your Windows 7 contract person. Note - Windows 7 has it's own ideas on handling color, so color space in this case is important.
If you are sending RAW files, then the person using Photoshop on Windows 7 will probably be using Adobe Camera Raw to process the RAW data. There is an obvious difference in the RAW processing theory used by Adobe when compared to the Apple RAW processing theory. The default in Adobe Camera Raw is very 'flat' when compared to Apple's. Note - I have significant experience using PS on Windows 7 at work.
Basically, you will be receiving from the Windows 7 user a re-interpreted image file. If this is what you intend, then you need to decide whether you want to wait to import into Aperture until after receiving the files back from him / her. As Allan inferred, you won't be able to keep any keywords or adjustments made in Aperture if you send the Master files. The best you could do is import to a project with the original and then the final file done in PS on Win 7.
Another issue that may or may not matter to you, is that you will not be able to utilize any layers that you receive in the returned file unless you resend the original received (Windows 7) Master file. This is because Aperture flattens all exported files and internally created versions (one layer without transparency).

In Aperture using the external photo editor Adobe photoshop elements 10 editor. My photo will not come back to aperture unless the photo is saved on the desktop and then imported back to Aperture. What am I doing wrong?

Using Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 Editor as external editor in Aperture. The issue is once i make the changes in Photoshop it request that I save (use tiff) and the photo is not update in Aperture. What am I doing wrong?

Marianne,
how do you save? Photoshop Elements can save either versions or overwrite the original file, afaik.
You need to set the save preferences, so that it will write to the original file and not write a version. Also the filename extension should be "tiff" and not the default "tif" (I think you did that already).
Regards
Léonie

Photoshop edited image not appearing back in Aperture!!

I'm a Lightroom user but thought I'd try out Aperture 3 for a new project to see if I prefer it.
I scanned in an old family photo album and imported them into Aperture. Some of the photos got torn as I removed them from the pages (they were glued!!) so I thought I'd repair them in Photoshop and also try to remove the paper texture that also got 'scanned' for some of the photos.
When I choose the option "Edit with Adobe Photoshop CS4", I can see a TIFF copy is created and it appears alongside the original image in the viewer. I can also see the physical file in Finder.
However, after I finish editing the image in Photoshop, and save and close it, switch back to Aperture, the TIFF image just disappears from the viewer.
I checked to see if a stack is created, but there isn't one. The physical file still exists in Finder though.
I tried manually importing the edited TIFF image back into the project, but it still doesn't appear!!!
The Aperture library file has increased though, so it seems like something has happened but I just can't seem to access my Photoshop edited image in Aperture.
I have tried this a few times, with different photos, but get the same results.
The other option I tried was regenerating thumbnails for the project but still nothing happens.
Anyone have any suggestions, what's going on??

How did you fix this? I'm having a similar problem!

File size growth fr Aperture to Photoshop and back. Why?

When i take a 15Mb file from Aperture to Photoshop, work on it in photoshop them save back into Aperture its grown to about 56MB back in Aperture, BUT why when i open the Adjustments HUD for this new file in Aperture does it make a new copy of the image and make it 150MB size in Aperture.

This is because Aperture converts the file to a TIFF wrapped as a PSD file to import to photoshop, which gives you the initial size increase. When photoshop saves the file, it is also saving (in the PSD) any layers you have created, so several layers will increase the size of the file several times.
Nothing wrong with Aperture - just a fact of life when storing native Photoshop files (PSDs) to disk - they're huge!
Hope that helps.
Dave.

Externally edited Photoshop files are huge when saved back into Aperture 3

I start with an 8MB JPEG photo. I externally edit it in Photoshop Elements 6, and hit "Save". The edited image is saved back into Aperture, but it's now 34MB PSD. Ouch! My hard disk is big but this is over the top. The intent of me moving to Aperture from iPhoto had been to reduce file sizes (masters and versions), not to hugely increase them.
If I use "Save As" and convert it to a JPEG, the saved edited photo vanishes--it isn't in Aperture. I can't find it. If it is saved in some unknown location it is taking up hard disk space uselessly.
Can you help me do this better? I would be most grateful.
Message was edited by: shep222

shep222 wrote:>...even if I do zero Photoshop editing I still get this >3 times increase in file size.
Yup. That is how big such files are when not compressed and image data has not been discarded.
It's an Aperture vs. iPhoto thing: When I did Photoshop External Editing in iPhoto (before I switched to Aperture) the original JPEG stays a JPEG when exported to Photoshop. The file size problem does not occur in iPhoto.
That is correct, and is why few if any pros use iPhoto. iPhoto is by definition +low end,+ dumping image files into lossy JPEG by default. A RAW file imported into iPhoto is saved in JPEG unless the user takes special action to export it as TIFF or PSD.
Aperture won't allow it--it seems to insist on converting to PSD for external editing.
Also correct. Aperture is a professional app, and intentionally and repeatedly discarding image data would not be professional workflow.
My JPEG's are top-notch low-compression ones, using the least compression settings in my Olympus micro-4/3 camera (super fine, large image, with 1/2.7 compression). JPEG artefacts have not been an issue even after extensive Photoshop editing.
Agreed, top quality JPEGs can be very useful even though image information has been discarded. Back when RAW DSLR capture was unusably slow I shot many full-page magazine ads using JPEG Fine. But once the (fast) Nikon D2x came out I have always captured RAW and would no way ever again consider far inferior JPEG-only capture.
Perhaps Aperture is not for me, if we can't overcome this issue.
Perhaps. However IMO a far better approach is to shoot RAW and embrace a professional lossless workflow using Aperture. Mass storage is cheap and the benefits of RAW capture are very significant.
Already my Aperture Library is 70GB and I have barely started with it.
The issue of huge Library is due to using a Managed-Masters Library. Switch to RAW capture and a Referenced-Masters Library with the Library on an internal drive and the Masters referenced on external drives and the Library will no longer grow ridiculously large. IMO discarding image data via JPEG compression just to save hard drive space is inappropriate in 2011.
HTH
-Allen Wicks

I edit my photos in Photoshop, save as jpeg then import back into iPhoto. But if I add text to an image in Photoshop can't save as jpeg but as psd. Is there any way I can change to jpeg in iPhoto?

I edit my RAW photos in Photoschop CS3, save as jpeg then import back into iPhoto 11. If I add text in Photoshop I can't save as jpeg but as psd. Is there any way I can change to jpeg in iPhoto?

Terence Devlin wrote:
Yes you can. But you need to flatten it as jpeg doesn't support layers.
While the final JPEG can't have layers, it is not necessary to flatten the original Photoshop file to create a JPEG. There are two ways to make a JPEG while not losing the flexibility of preserving layers, and they both flatten on the fly while saving.
I just tried this in Photoshop CS3 myself. When I add a text layer, and choose Save, the Save As dialog box comes up and defaults to PSD as was described. But... that is just the default! Go ahead and choose JPEG from the Format pop-up menu down below the file list. JPEG is in there. So what happens to the layers? Notice when you choose JPEG, the Layers box grays out and the "As A Copy" box grays out and is checked (i.e. you cannot uncheck it). What is going on here is Photoshop will gladly make a JPEG of your layered file, but it will force the JPEG to be a copy, so as to not overwrite the original layered file. This is good, because your Photoshop file with its editable text layer is preserved, and you get a JPEG copy to put in iPhoto.
The second way is, instead of doing Save or Save As, choose File/Save for Web and Devices. This will also give you a JPEG choice, and also create an exported copy. Because this way makes files for the Web, they will be smaller than JPEGs from Save As because they will lack built-in previews (which you don't really need these days) and other extra metadata that take up space.
Either way you get a JPEG you can toss back into iPhoto.
Terence Devlin wrote:
Only by exporting.
The Export menu in Photoshop CS3 does not have any direct choices for JPEG.

Am I correct that Photos does not support external editors? i.e., in Aperture, I click Photos Edit with.... and can open in Photoshop or various plug-ins. Changes are then automatically saved back to Aperture. Nonexistent in Photos?

Am I correct that Photos does not support external editors? i.e., in Aperture, I click Photos > Edit with.... and can open in Photoshop or various plug-ins. Changes are then automatically saved back to Aperture. Nonexistent in Photos?

Thanks Larry. That certainly gives me some understanding. Can't imagine I'm the only Aperture user with that concern, so I certainly hope Adobe and others will fill the void. Without that feature, Photos is pretty much a non-started for me.

Editing with Photoshop from Aperture - getting it back into Aperture

I have Aperture 3, and Photoshop Elements 9 & 10, but for some time now, when I send a photo from Aperture to Photoshop I have problems. The photo opens in Photoshop fine (set as default in Preferences), but when I save the file in Photoshop, it simply opens a 'save as' dialogue, and expects me to save the file on my hard drive somewhere. Even doing this doesn't 'send the edited photo' back to Aperture as it should.
I'm sure I'm missing something obvious! Can anyone help?
Thanks...

I got the same "save as" window the OP did when I pressed Cmd-S (save). I even cancelled out the first time, thinking I'd accidentally pressed Cmd-Shift-S (save as), and went up to the menu to select Save to be sure. The dialogue box still came up.
You can see the file (a PSD in my case) along with with the masters listed in the folder that the dialogue box defaults to, so it's not an issue with the file not being saved upon creation by Aperture. The file does already exist. Trying to save it prompts a "save as" style dialogue box though, as if it wants you to save it as another version. It's weird.
I'm pretty new to Aperture, so I don't know for sure that this pop-up save window behaviour is new, but it sounds like it is (the manual doesn't mention it). Until someone states they are experiencing this with Snow Leopard, my guess is that it's a Lion/versions thing.
Doug

Importing Photoshop RAW images into Aperture

When I import Photoshop RAW images that I have made adjustments to, into my Aperture library, they show up as the original RAW files and not with my adjustments. Is there a way to get the RAW adjustments imported as well.
The only reason I need to import them into Aperture is to post them in a web gallery. Or is there a way to create a ME web gallery directly from Photoshop files? How about creating a ME web gallery directly from Lightroom? Anybody have a clue?)
(Btw, in attemtpting to research this topic, I find I am totally unable to do a search of the discussions. Even with a search word like "Aperture", I get no messages. Not matter what search word I enter I get no messages found. ???)
Thanks!
Jim

Thanks for the reply Allen.
I am saving them all as TIFFS now. I was just trying to avoid that time-consuming step. I do not really need them as TIFFS right now. It is to show edited RAW files to a client. Later, when selections are made, I would save that much smaller number of images as TIFFS. But it seems that there is no other way to import the RAW files with the edits into Aperture.
I used to create all of my web albums for clients in PS. But once I got a .mac account, I love and prefer the look of the .mac web galleries. But of course that necessitated importing all my PS files into either iPhoto (not an option) or Aperture. But can these PS web galleries be exported to a .mac web gallery?
Thanks!
Jim Cox

Images retouched in Photoshop are missing from Aperture browser

Hi! I'm new here! I'm panicked because: my hard drive died (power outage), I replaced the hard drive, I restored my Time Machine backup, and it did not restore all my images; in each of the 5 most recent project folders, the only images missing are the ones that were retouched in Photoshop and brought back into Aperture (the "finals"). The browser displays these stacks with the master on the left, and a white dotted-line outline with nothing in it where the retouched image used to be. When I double click on the empty image, I get the notorious dark red field with "Unsupported Image Format" in the main viewer area. (This used to happen occasionally and was solved by quitting Aperture and restarting, but doesn't correct this problem.) I am using Aperture 2.1.4. An Apple tech instructed me to do a "restore library", and this process eliminated the white outline so that now there is no indication that any files are missing at all. But two weeks of hard earned work is lost. I never used the vault but Time Machine should have done a thorough backup, no? Any thoughts? Suggestions?

The raw fine tuning controls are camera specific. For some sensors not all controls are available, see this document: http://support.apple.com/kb/PH7481
Note: Some controls in the RAW Fine Tuning area of the Adjustments inspector and the Adjustments pane of the Inspector HUD appear dimmed if these settings are not available for use with images derived from a particular RAW file format. Some camera models can create multiple types of RAW file formats, and different controls may be available for each of these RAW file formats.
Using these controls, you can fine-tune your RAW decoding settings on an image-by-image basis. Aperture also enables you to save your customized RAW decoding settings as effects or as the default settings always used with a specific camera, so they are easily applied to newly imported images. For more information about saving your custom RAW Fine Tuning settings as the default for a specific camera, see Setting the Camera Default.
If the RAW Fine Tuning controls do not appear, the selected photo is from a previous version of Aperture. You must first reprocess the image using the most current RAW image processing. For more information, see An Overview of Reprocessing Photos.
For example, I am seeing all Raw Fne uning controls for my dng-files from the Lumix FZ28, but not for the Canon EOS 5D Mk II:
-- Léonie

Photoshop CS5, Photoshop CS5 ex, Photoshop Elements 9, iPhoto, Aperture????

Okay.... so I am a bit overwhelmed with trying to decide if I should be upgrading from iPhoto or not.
iPhoto has been great for making my photobooks. But, on occasion, it has been a bit frustrating trying to get the right number of vertical vs. horizontal photos on a page. Sometimes when adding, if you add in the right order, configurations can change, usually in size (not necessarily orientation unless it is the fewer photos per page layouts 2-3 or 4). But, it makes it go really quickly to do albums as there isn't much engineering going on as you go from page to page (on occasion, I make a separate dummy album that has a different theme that I think manages my horizontal v. vertical issue or perhaps the number of photos allowed on a page (as some themes only have up to 4 or 6 photos per page and on occasion, I like to have more 9, for example)).
Primarily, I have used iPhoto to do personal albums. I intend on possibly starting to offer my services to get albums done for people and/or do slideshow videos for them. With that, I do end up, even with my own, photos from years past or current that have coloring issues or rips/tears/fading.
As it is right now, I have used iPhoto to work on the highlights, shadows, etc, which for me right now, is by trial and error.... I don't really know what I am doing and iPhoto doesn't seem to care. Fortunately, whatever I do, I can go back to the original, which I think is true in Aperture as well... However, I think I might have heard differently with Photoshop (CS5 or Elements)?
I have not installed any plug-ins for the other printer services in iPhoto (eg. Leather Craftsmen), but, I know it is possible a client may want a 12x12 album or some of those other shapes, sizes, cover options out there.... e.g. Shutterfly, even.
One other bit of information is that I am not just a candid completely amateur photographer either. I do take quite a bit of photos with my Canon Rebel Xsi. Not top of the line.... but, although I can should in raw, have chose to always just go with jpeg as this is a hobby of mine and I really don't have loads of time to just adjust all my photos... nor necessarily the space on my computer to put everything at raw. But, I could be persuaded otherwise, if I really knew how to use and really know what the benefits of it are (again, I know I should take classes or something, just don't know where to focus my attention).
So, what am I asking? Well, a few things:
1. If my primary goal is to make Photobooks, which program(s) should I have?
2. I understand you could have iPhoto or Aperture and then edit photos in PhotoShop.... Does that save the file back to Aperture/iPhoto or does it make a separate file in Photoshop?
3. Which books, classes, etc would you suggest to learn the uses of such program(s)?
4. Does the program you mention in #1 strong enough to handle typical adjustments on jpegs-aging, color casts, lack of proper lighting, red-eye (iPhoto seems to do okay on this even in the auto function, but on occasion, it sometimes replaces with too dark of a correction, or not fully complete.)
5. Does Shutterfly have a print plug-in so I could make photobooks on either Aperture or iPhoto and have Shutterfly print? Or is that just available on Photoshop (unless I print to jpegs and then upload to Shutterfly using the Shutterfly uploader)?
6. Is it really beneficial to shoot in raw over jpeg?
7. If Photoshop is even part of your answer in #1, is it worth it to have CS5 or CS5 Extended with the 3D option?

1. If my primary goal is to make Photobooks, which program(s) should I have?
iPhoto is entirely template driven, Aperture's books are very customisable and there are losts of online options too. Google a bit and see what's out there.
2. I understand you could have iPhoto or Aperture and then edit photos in PhotoShop.... Does that save the file back to Aperture/iPhoto or does it make a separate file in Photoshop?
Yes and Yes. In iPhoto: You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
Note that iPhoto sends a copy+ of the file to Photoshop, so when you save be sure to use the Save command, not Save As... If you use Save As then you're creating a new file and iPhoto has no way of knowing about this new file. iPhoto is preserving your original anyway.
In Aperture, Preferences _. Export and set your external editor there. WHen you send a pic to PS with Aperture it makes a tiif or psd and sends it over. Saving in Photoshop brings it back.
4. Does the program you mention in #1 strong enough to handle typical adjustments on jpegs-aging, color casts, lack of proper lighting, red-eye (iPhoto seems to do okay on this even in the auto function, but on occasion, it sometimes replaces with too dark of a correction, or not fully complete.)
Photoshop Elements is a good compromise between the cost of full photoshop and the features you'll need.
5. Does Shutterfly have a print plug-in so I could make photobooks on either Aperture or iPhoto and have Shutterfly print? Or is that just available on Photoshop (unless I print to jpegs and then upload to Shutterfly using the Shutterfly uploader)?
You could look that one up at Shutterfly yourself, no?
6. Is it really beneficial to shoot in raw over jpeg?
Depends on what you want to do... Really that's a massively basic question. I would check out some o the online Photo forums and see what advice you can find there tom get you started. You could do worse than look here
http://www.digital-photography-school.com/
7. If Photoshop is even part of your answer in #1, is it worth it to have CS5 or CS5 Extended with the 3D option?
Given the amount of your experience, rather than diving in and spending a whole lot of money, start with iPhoto and Photoshop Elements. Explore. IF you want to upgrade, when you're ready, migrate to Aperture and Elements. I think you're a good way from facing CS5 yet.
Regards
TD

Aperture 1.5: External editor not bringing image back into Aperture?

Hi,
I am running Aperture 1.5 and have Noise Ninja installed as my external editor. I can successfully send an image from my Aperture library to NN and edit it there, but when I save the image, it is not brought back into Aperture. Further, if I try to send another image from Aperture to NN while NN is open, a new TIFF version is created in Aperture, but nothing opens up in NN.
I've been using Aperture and NN for about a year, and it has always acted like this, so I've basically given up on trying to use the External Editing feature in Aperture, but after some research it seemed like this shouldn't be as difficult as it has been for me.
Has anyone else had a problem like this and been able to resolve it? And does it matter that my files are referenced, and not stored in the Aperture library?
Thanks all
Burt

Burt,
Did you ever find a solution? I'm having the same problem with Photoshop files not saving back into Aperture. I haven't been able to figure it out.

Confused about import iPhoto Libraries Aperture 3.2

When I first purchase Aperture 3.2.3 back in May I had many iPhoto librarys split out by year. I wanted an integrated view so when I imported them to Aperture I chose the "leave iPhoto library in place" option. That may not be the exact wording. I was under the impression that this meant that Aperture would point to those libraries, but not duplicate them. I'm not so sure of that now. My Aperture library is around 25GB. My iPhoto libraries add up to at least 120GB.
I have upgraded to Aperture 3.4.2. I know about the library switching option, but I still want an integrated look at all my photos in one place. I got Aperture so I didn't have to do the iPhoto library switching I was doing.
Yesterday I spent a good amount of time deleting a bunch of extraneous photos I had from a project I did throughout 2011. My Aperture library shrunk 1GB. The iPhoto library didn't change size. That makes me think that the import actually put the files in the Aperture Library.
So, now I'm not sure what's going on. Is there a way to see which libraries are pointed to the original iPhoto libraries?

Is there a way to see which libraries are pointed to the original iPhoto libraries?
When you select an image in the Aperture library and use the command "File > Show in Finder" you can see the location of the original image file. If this points into a folder inside an iPhoto Library, you are really referencing the iPhoto Library. But if the command "Show in Finder" is disabled for an image, it is managed inside the Aperture library.
But frankly, I do not think it is a good idea to use Aperture to delete images inside your iPhoto libraries. Ypur iPhoto Libraries may be corrupted this way.

Bring back to Aperture from Adobe Elements 12

Ok I didn't have a problem bringing the photo back with Adobe Photoshop Elements 11 back to Aperture. I am having a problem with Adobe photoshop Elements 12 bring the photo back to Aperture. In Aperture preferences I am pointed to the Adobe Photoshop elements 12 app in the Support file.

What are your pref settings in Aperture e.g. what type of file are you sending to the Elements Editor Application? When you finish in PSE are you using Cmd+S or File >> Save to ensure the same file is overwritten and comes back into Aperture? If you incorrectly use File >> Save As it is more likely Elements will default to PSD. Effectively you would be creating a brand new file which never originated in Aperture and hence will not come back to Aperture.

Resizing in Photoshop, importing back to Aperture

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for