RESOLUTION: GNB MAX and Radeon 9700 Crashes

I had various lock-ups, crashes and "Windows detected and recovered from a device failure" error messages with my GNB MAX motherboard and Radeon 9700 and they are now fixed.
I was able to receive a beta version of an upcoming set of drivers from ATI and they did the trick!!
Just wanted to give you all some hope.
Hang in there!

Oops, I spoke too soon. I think FastWrites is on (I remember turning it off before on previous drivers and noticing a big slow down that is not present now) but there isn't a SmartGart tab appearing in my ATI control panel any more. I checked Advanced - Options - Details and yes, 8X is on.
How can I verify that FastWrites is on without the SmartGart tab?

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MSI K7T266PRO2-RU and Radeon 9700 (non-pro)

Hi!
I'm thinking of upgrading to a Radeon 9700 non-pro,
and just thought I'd check this forum to see
if there are any compatibility issues between
my K7T266PRO2-RU and Radeon 9700 (like
there were between GF4mx).
If someone has a similar setup (k7t266pro2 w. 9700PRO/non-pro)
I would like to hear of your experience with this.
I appreciate your help.

Hi,
I can't remember any problems with it, as long as you make sure the powersupply can handle it.

MOVED: Re: K8T Neo2 F (6702E) and Radeon 9700

This topic has been moved to Linux/Unix.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=127833.0

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Originally posted by dondada
OK, lets clear this up. What is happening is that the computer is randomly freezing/shutting down. Now it doesnt matter what i am doing, its just random. I've done the burn-in test for about 15 hrs with no problem, but then when i stopped it, i tried to open IE, and the comp crashed, so its not a load problem. the rig always POSTs, thats not a problem. I have not run MEMTEST, but i've tried other ram, with the same problem. I've also tried different vid cards, such as a Radeon 7000, a 9600 pro, and a nVidia mx440, all of which worked flawlessly. Now in the bios, i have the AGP Fast write set to Off, the aperature set to 256mb, and the VLink 8x support is disabled (therefore set to 4x). The primary graphics adapter is set to AGP. The AGP Frequency is set to the default, and so is the voltage. ALSO, when i was talkin with MSI, then sent me an updated bios. the bios file says 3.36, but in the actual bios, it says 3.31. is this anything to worry about? I have not done driver clean, or used the Omega drivers yet, but i will do that now. Please reply if you can help or if you need more information.
1) why set fast write to off? mine is on.
2) why set the aperature so much higher than the available onboard ram on the 9700?

MSI GNB MAX and RICOH R5C476II PCI to Cardbus bridge not working! Help

Why my PCMCIA & CARDBUS Card Reader based on RICOH R5C476II Chipset not
working on MSI GNB MAX BOARD (with newer bios 2.3)???
My Card reader is fine and working properly on many ithers motherboards like: ABIT BD7-II based
on Intel 845E Chipset, or ASUS TUSIM, ASUS TUSL, and ASUS PIIIB-F
Why ??
Please help me.

Yes, sure. I'm trying to use all of five PCI slots, and after slot chnge I,m setting Reset Configuration data in BIOS.
result is the same in all Card positions. Card is detected, but not working corectly.
I'm trying to resolve any hardware conflicts by disabling all od internal mothebrord components like IEE1394 Audio, Serial Ata and others - no cahnges, no solutions ....

KT4 Ultra and Radeon 9700 Pro

Ok I have a question. So it seems there is an issue with this particular card and the KT4 Ultra. So what in the $#%@ brand and model 8x agp card did MSI use to test the 8x function of this board? I thought the 9700 pro was the only 8x card out right now? If its not why wasn't it tested by them??? I hope this will be fixed by a bios update, but not for me, for the others out there, as for me, I am taking this back and I'm getting an Epox board, I heard Asus has similair problems but Epox 8x board works. Very sad that I had to spend hours trying to figure this out and it wasn't even my error.

ATI has already stated (about 2 weeks ago) that a problem does exist with the Radeon 9700 and certain 8x AGP boards. You can RMA the board and it will either be replaced or the BIOS will be flashed at no charge to you. Go to http://www.ati.com and send them an email.

648Max and Radeon 9700 - Im confused

I just installed a Radeon 9700 pro. I was getting a beep sequence when booting and it would go no further. I would just restart the computer and it would come up fine.
Everying appears to work fine after that but I do not like things to work any other way than perfect.
I looked into these boards and have been reading alot about this issue and so I checked my versions.
I seem to have A revision 1.0 Motherboard and a revision 1.1 Radeon 9700pro(D33011).
Should I talk to MSI and ATI about replacing them?

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Originally posted by AMaskedMan
I just installed a Radeon 9700 pro. I was getting a beep sequence when booting and it would go no further. I would just restart the computer and it would come up fine.
Everying appears to work fine after that but I do not like things to work any other way than perfect.
I looked into these boards and have been reading alot about this issue and so I checked my versions.
I seem to have A revision 1.0 Motherboard and a revision 1.1 Radeon 9700pro(D33011).
Should I talk to MSI and ATI about replacing them?
i had boot problems with this combo when i first bought them. msi asked me when i purchased the MB and asked for a number on the box tht shows what month it was made. if it was made last september they had a issue with 9700 and the board and they rma''d the board and everything works fine now.
dont know if that would be your fix though but i would suggest talking to them.
other than that make sure your using bios 1.1 or 1.3 (heard 1.2 was problematic for 9700) and that your power supply is adequet.
Edit:
just saw you had rev 1.1 of the 9700. that rev has had boot issues with agp 8 MB's. so if the problem i described doesnt fit yours(not made in sept) you might talk to ati about getting a rev 1.3 or higher. i had to get the 1.3 when i was using a via agp8 board and people on Rage3d had problems with the same issues on the sis 648 boards also.

GNB Max and firewire

When I plug a firewire device into the GNB Max, nothing happens. The firwire controller shows up in the device manager and doesn't have any conflicts, also I double checked to make sure that firewire is enabled in the bios. I followed the instructions for connecting the firewire bracket to the mainboard.

It is a Digital VHS Recorder. With my old mobo, I had a pci firewire card, and all I had to do was plug it in, then I could choose the drivers.

845e max and radeon 7500

ok my problem is that i just bought this video card(ati radeon 7500) and on my mobo it says only use agp 4x 1.5v only but this card is a 4x/2x. it also says in my mobo manuel to use a 2x/4x card switch to 4x in the jumpers. my problem is that there is no jumpers on the card so what do i do. i dont want to distroy my mobo so what do i do.

I am pretty sure that ATI Radeon 7500 is a 1.5V 4X-compliant card. Just put it in and try it out. The motherboard has this routing thing that won't boot the computer if you have a 3.3V AGP card installed anyway, so you are safe. 8)

MSI 648 Max and Radeon 7900 pro

I have big troubles trying to setup my video card ATI Radeon 7900 pro. I try several drivers from ATI, I've tried Radeonator to downclock the video card, but the system is still very instable, hanging in every games (AoM, WC3) after few seconds, and even hanging while doing elementary stuff with the PC.
Anyone know something about this pb ?
Is it specific to the video card (i ca see a lot of pb with this card) ?
Is there a compatibility issue between video card and this mother board ?
Thanks in advance.

You can try going back through the earlier posts. I know there were quite a few dealing with the Radeon9700 and the 648Max. I don't have the Radeon so I can't help much if the problem is really related to that card. One thing you might check right off are the voltage readings in the BIOS. I know you need a pretty good power supply with that combination of motherboard and graphics card. I also know that there were some other issues as well.

MEGA 180 and Radeon 9700 Pro

i was reading and people sticked in an 9800pro and it worked fine so i took a gamble and got a 9700pro
ok took me 2hrs yesterday to stick the 9700pro in the mega and i had to take the psu, heatsink and cdrw out to do so and it booted fine the 1st time... then i installed the drivers and restarted the kb wasnt working so i thought it wasnt plugged in, checked it and it was plugged in so turned off the comp and turned it back on and the monitor was blank but i can hear it like loading so i reset the cmos and all i hear was beepings sound when i turned it on and nothing on the screen.... so turned it off again and waited a while and turn it back on and all i get is a black screen..... took out the 9700 pro and went back to onboard graphics and everything works fine again.... so i guess there is no way that i can get the 9700 pro to work on this right?
any help is apperciated thanks in advanced

Quote from: Dr Stu on 24-December-05, 20:31:08
where did you get the 9700pro from?
these are no longer manufactured, so i guess you have bought this "used" from somewhere (ebay perhaps?)
try it in another computer system, and see if it does the same in there. if it does then you have bought a duff card
yes i got it off someone used and no there is nothing wrong with it cuz i just tired it on my bro's desktop (p4 1.8ghz) and it works fine... and i just noticed that his psu is 250watts also and it works fine so then shouldnt it run on the mega also if it works on his comp with 250watts psu? or i guess its just differeent psu's??

KT4 and Radeon 9700 Pro......

Ok I found that all my 3d games lock up with any driver version, with all the via 4 in 1, trust me there is nothing I haven't checked. Another thing I found is the card works great on my other pc which is not an 8x AGP motherboard. So I hear everywhere on many other forums, "turn it to 4x agp on your board and try", oh boy I sure would if that section WASN'T GREYED OUT AT AUTO!!!!!!!!!!! Please MSI, what is the point of not letting us lower the AGP speed, especially if people are reporting problems with this card and your motherboards. I figured one time, just once, I would stray from Asus and Epox and buy an MSI since it advertised 8X agp ( god knows if they tested a real 8x agp card with the board ), this has been a major mistake, and since I have to live with it, all I ask is that you put out a bios update so we can lower the agp speed. thanks

4esth,
There is no way to allow the user to manually set AGP4x on an AGP8x card on MSI KT4 Ultra.
Did you come across any other VIA KT400 boards that allow user to manually set AGP4x on an AGP8x card, please let us know. Until now I haven't found one. Or else it would serve as a good point to request MSI. But I doubt there is any at the moment.
Other than that, I would suggest you to check for the heatsink condition on the card itself. Apply some Arctic Silver III if you have, lap the core if you dare as some core GPU is not FLAT and does not have good contact with the heatsink.

MSI KT400 and RADEON 9700 PRO

I'm having many problems with this combination: some games don't work.
I've read there are problems with agp 8x, any advice?
I can't play:
mechwarrior mercenaries
arx fatalis
platoon
thanx!

Since the KT400 is a VIA Chipset based motherboard and this is an Nvidia/AMD/SiS SocketA forum I am moving it to the VIA based forum.
Perhaps you can elaborate on exact problems and provide a complete hardware listing, including your power supply's combined wattage across the +5v and +3v rails.

MSI GNB Max and P4 3.06 with 56C Idle (Bios)

is that ok or to high, i know about some bugs with the Temp Sensor so there are my 2 cents ! :D
Please give me some feedback thx. !

I had the exact same problem. I bought a Cooler Master IHC-H71 CPU cooler and it brought me down to 40-44 at idle. Ordered it from http://www.phamcomputer.com

KT4 Ultra +Radeon 9700 Pro Trouble Free !

After a few months of relatively trouble free gaming with KT4 Ultra and Radeon 9700 Pro, I was shocked to find recently that my PC began to crash after only a few minutes of gameplay. 8o
Believing that a reinstall of all the relavent drivers would cure the problem, I set about trawling through the latest advice on what works / doesnt work. This I have to say was a minefield of anecdotes, mainly bad ones - as most of you guys are probably aware !
After installing drivers as 'best' I could, the problem remained the same.
It would appear that to ask for a complete list of recommended drivers is futile, since there is little correlation between reported 'fixes'. There is always someone reporting that the latest versions are causing problems.
For the moment, this tale has a happy ending cos I found that the system is getting too hot (after some months !), so with the side panel off and a 12 inch desk fan blowing inside I managed a 4 hour session with now problems. )
The purpose of the post is to highlight the disturbing fragility of these systems (which i'm sure many of you have first hand experince), both in hardware and software and to share my disbelief at the apparent lack of sustained testing that these boards undergo.
Looks like a better cooling system is in order

It's unfortunate that most of the new hardware seems to pump out heat. The ATI 9700 pro use about 100W of power on it's own. The whole system puts out enough heat to warm a small room.
I have noticed that the heatsink on the ATI card gets very hot, even though it has a fairly serious fan on it (the fan on my Sapphire card is a lot like a blue orb).
I am wondering if a lot of problems with these setups are thermal. I have the KT4 Ultra and ATI 9700 pro and it has not given problems at all.
I have (from past experience) installed plenty of cooling in my case (a full tower, that helps too). I find that the cooler everything as kept, the less problems there are.
I think that at some stage in the near future there will have to be a change somewhere. Either in heat output (reduction in power use) or cooling.

MSI GNB Max (MS-6565): insufficient voltage

I have just installed my new GNB Max, and got XP Pro up and running. Upon installing PC Alert 4, I recieved a warning that the +3.3V was actually sub 3V(2.9+V). What effect will this have? And what kind of Variance should I tolerate?
Many thanks.

My GNB Max + Antec true power 430 read 3.33.
Sounds like a power supply not handling the load.
Acceptable tolerance in the PC industry is +-5% (3.135 is therfor the lower limit)

RESOLUTION: GNB MAX and Radeon 9700 Crashes

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