Resolution of Logic Board/Airport card failure - iBook G4 2005?

Well, after my first post this morning, I was kindly advised to post a new topic regarding my kernel panics and not-so-nice grey screens of death!
So here goes....
I had experienced this problem since January, when my iBook purchased in April 2006 was coming up to it's first birthday. The problem was this - the iBook would freeze and i'd get a message stating that I needed to re-start. After re-starting, i'd get about 2-3 minutes of use, before the symtoms occured again.
I had the logic-board and airport card replaced twice, by an Apple Store, back in January. The first replacement failed as soon as I got it home, the second replacement failed last night.
So, somewhat dejectedly, I drove to Apple this morning, after booking a Procare session. I was expecting a bill of around £450, as that's what they quoted me back in January, if I had to pay for it. This time I would, as my iBook was 1 month out of warranty, with no Apple Care extended support.
Upon arriving 45 minutes early for my session at the 'Genius Bar', I was promptly served, and advised the tech-guru guy what the issue was. Upon looking at the logs, he checked my warranty, found it had expired, then told me to 'wait', and disappeared into the back office.
Some 5 minutes later, he reappeared, and simply said "have you still got the box for the iBook?"
I did, but it was at home, some 45 minutes away. Then he said these magic words - "We're going to replace it, and give you a new MacBook, free-of-charge"
I was blown away by this approach. I'd expected a repair, possibly a charge, depending on whether they realised that both replacements had been faulty. However, with a machine 1 month out-of-warranty, I did NOT expect a replacement machine.
However, that's what I got. So, I'm composing this thread on a brand-new MacBook Intel Core-2 Duo, with the new spec 1GB RAM and 80GB hard drive.
So, I'd like to take this moment to commend Apple on their outstanding customer-focused approach. Well-done on resolving my issue. Good luck to the rest of you experiencing similar issues.
iBook G4 2005 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Your ibook G4 (purchased april 06 probably being the 1.3 ghz model) was worth about 440 pounds second hand. The quoted repair bill of 450 was higher than the price of the machine itself, and you were going to pay it?
There are unopened macbooks on ebay for 520-540 pounds (inc apple sales receipts+warranty).
Them asking you for the box means they're going to con another customer into buying your broken machine.

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