Respect for PAL

Hi I am having a bit of a headscratcher here.
I am preparing my psd files using dv PAL sizing, bringing it into encore which is set up as PAL. When I add motion to my carefully prepared PAL psd file and create comp it opens it up in AE with an NTSC comp which I then have to change.
I would have thought that if you imported a DVPal psd file into Encore it would set the encore project as PAL and subsequently the AE project would be PAL, so there is continuity.
Am I missing something here? What is the best way to set the continuity for all 3 apps??

You can set the timecode base in the Project Settings of AE to 25 beforehand.

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Revision: 14928
Author:   [email protected]
Date:     2010-03-22 17:35:43 -0700 (Mon, 22 Mar 2010)
Log Message:
Fix bug FM-468: Initial and max indices not being respected for RTMP MBR.
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>Should I be using an actual 16:9 frame from the start, instead of the 5:4 with borders?
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