Responsible Organisation determination by Employee Responsible

Hi Experts,
In our scenario the sales representative is assigned via the relationship to the business partner. When creating an activity or opportunity the responsible organizational unit should be determined from the partner function employee responsible in the transaction (which get determined from the BP relationship). Does anyone know how to achieve this.
There is a rule available to the determine organizational unit from the user logged in but no specific rule for scenario described above. The challenge thus is to modify the input of the container for this new rule so it gets populated with the BP of the employee responsible instead with the BP of the user .
Detailed:
Master Data
Customer Y has Sales Manager Y
Transaction
Customer Y
Employee Responsible: Y
=> Determine responsible organizational unit from employee responsible Y.
Best Regards,
Erik

Hi Oliver,
Also for Organisation determination some steps are required.
1. Creat organisation model with division and distribution channel, sales org and sales office
2. In BP (org) for sold to party or Sales prospect enter the required data in sales area data tab. with division and distribution channel.
3. Go to SPRO >IMG>CRM>Master data>Organisation>org determination>define rule
ther u have to specify the structure of org model. And most important is Attribute set it as per your requirment.(e.g.partner no)
4. Go to SPRO >IMG>CRM>Master data>Organisation>org determination>define responsibilty
5.creat org data profile e.g. ( z_orgpro_oppt)
6. Add this profile in transaction type.in Go to SPRO >IMG>CRM>Transaction>Basic settinf Define transaction type
7. Add the Partner determination profile having Emp responsible with unique Access sequence ( it would be " data from org" )
8.In Easy Access open the same transaction (e.g. opportunity)
9. putt BP No in sold to party
As u enter the BP No in which u have enter the sales area data it will generate the Pop Up regarding Orgnisation , select one whatever is required
again it will display another PopUp i.e combination of Sales org + division+distribution channel.
select one
Now It will generate PopUp of Emp responsibble select one who is actually responsible.
Result:--
It will automatically populate the data in basic data tab and in organisation tab.
<b>Reward points if it helps!!</b>
Best regards,
Vikash.

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