Restart footnote numbering every paragraph

Hi Experts
is there any option to restart footnote numbering every paragraph? I want to have footnote marks somehting like this.
Para 1
At mo volectati optiam, ut<fm>1:1</fm> et ipicatu mquiatio cus, conetur<fm>1:2</fm> as eumquibus ut lam, qui conet reiunt. Itatenis etust, sinum ut im harumet officiene non parupta<fm>1:3</fm> incturest, ulliqui duntiat et alibus et maxim volut<fm>1:4</fm> auda ideligenis atibus.
Para 2
At mo volectati optiam, ut<fm>2:1</fm> et ipicatu mquiatio cus, conetur<fm>2:2</fm> as eumquibus ut lam, qui conet reiunt. Itatenis etust, sinum ut im harumet officiene non parupta<fm>2:3</fm> incturest, ulliqui duntiat et alibus et maxim volut<fm>2:4</fm> auda ideligenis atibus.
<fm> = Footnote Mark
Kindly suggest.
Thanks in advance

Yes, but with an important limitation: all of your paragraphs need to start on a new page!
As you can see for yourself, in Document Footnote Options the available Restart options are "Per Page", "Per Section", and "Per Page". There is no "Per Paragraph", and you cannot start a new section per paragraph (because it's a page attribute).
The default if you do not choose "Restart" is sort of "Continuous per Story", but that doesn't help you. Of course you could make each paragraph a new story -- cut the text out and paste it into a new text frame -- but then your note would appear at the bottom of each text frame!
Only way to fake it is making the footnote reference in the text invisible, and deleting the automatic number in the note itself and replacing it with a manually typed number.

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