Restore deleted keyword tags

I screwed up and while I was in Premiere Elements 4.0, I accidently deleted all of the keyword tags that I had set up in Photoshop Elements 6.0. Does anyone know if they can be recovered?
Although I haven't done a backup within Photoshop--maybe I should have?. I do have a completed system backup and could restore the file from there, but I don't know what file it is.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Mike,
The Tag information is stored in the Elements Organizer
b Catalog
Here is a link to an Adobe technical document that discusses info about the PS Elements 6 Catalog (yes its title does refence migrating but there is much more than migration information)
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb402592
Here is an extract of some relevant information
Photoshop Elements 6 stores catalog files by default in the following location:
------------beginning of techdoc extract
Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\Catalogs
Windows Vista: C:\Program Data\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\Catalogs
File extension: Catalog files created by Photoshop Elements 6 use the .PSEDB file extension. Earlier versions of Photoshop Elements used the .PSA file extension.
Database format: Catalog files created by Photoshop Elements 6 uses the SQLite database format. .... Applications that read the SQLite database format are available; however, Adobe does not support or recommend making changes to the database file outside of Photoshop Elements.
------------end of techdoc extract
I suspect that you used the default catalog name and location and that is what is referenced in the text that I extracted from the techdoc.
Continuing with additional relevant information
The default name of the catalog is "My Catalog" (no quotes in actual name). Below the folder shown in the techdoc extract (for XP or for Vista) you should see a folder named
My Catalog
What I would do is to make a copy to save somewhere else of this My Catalog folder as it currently exists - to be kept in case things get worse when you attempt to bring it back from your backuup.
Now there are 2 alternatives
1- bring back that entire My Catalog folder back from your backup to replace the current contents of the entire folder
2- bring only the .psedb file back from the backup and delete all the other files in that My Catalog folder
I would try option 1 first.
If you use option 2, more filles will need to be rebuilt : for example the entire thumbnail cache would need to be rebuilt and depending on how may photos, videos, etc are in the catalog that could take awhile. So I would use option 2 only if option 1 resulted in some problems.
Of course any changes made to the catalog or other related files since that backup would be lost. Photos would need to be reimported and any photo Version Sets made since your backup would need to be built as Stacks instead.

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