Restore of SOA Discovery system

Hi,
We have done a full windows backup including system state and registry of SOA Discovery system.
Before the backup we stopped SAP, MDM and SQL servers.
We have done a virgin windows 2003 enterprise install and we want to restore the system from this backup.
Normally at the end of the restore we the same system as before.
Did someone already done that before ?
Wich winodws version is used on Discovery system : std or enterprise and how many licensed users ?
Thanks you for your help.

Momo,
The Discovery server v2 (NW04s) is using Windows 2003 SP1 Std. Edition (25 users) and MS SQL 2005 Enterp. Edition. We did not used backup, what we did is created Ghost Image after we complete install of first Discovery Server...
Max

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Would it be possible to add a image of the complete system to the distribution, so the system can easily be reset after something went wrong?

Hi,
it's currently a bit early to talk about future versions of the Discovery System. Nothing is finally decided yet.
The applications on the Discovery System can be patched and upgraded as any other SAP software installation. And you are free to add software to the system.
Shipping an image is a nice idea. I am not aware if HP is not shipping that already.
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Is anybody successfully running more than one DS on the same network? We have edited the hostname of the DS but their still seems to be a conflict between the two servers and the SID names cannot be the same as well.

Hi Phillip,
The changing of the hostname is not recommended by SAP, but there is a customer who succeeded in doing so and claims to have even connected 4 Discovery Systems to the same network.
Knowing Maxim, I believe he indeed achieved it.
Read his blog: /people/maxim.efimov2/blog/2007/05/07/how-to-change-hostname-on-sap-enterprise-soa-discovery-system
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Availability of the SAP Discovery System for Enterprise SOA

Hello Everybody,
will the SAP Discovery System for Enterprise SOA only be avaliable as a appliance as I've read on NetWeaver04s on Discovery System? Will there be a normal installation like a IDES System?
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Hi Gregor,
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Why Discovery system for SOA Adoption

Please ignore the question, I got it in the documentation.
Edited by: Praveen Babu on Feb 10, 2010 9:21 PM

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You need to have an SAP ERP or SAP Business Suite license in place to activate the Discovery system. This will give you the chance to evaluate the software and components on the system for a maximum of up-to 6 month (for those components you don't have licensed yet). However customer specific licensing is somewhat unique. Therefore it is advised to contact your SAP account manger or sales representative to find out about your specific situation in detail.
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I have come across same questions when we started to use Discovery V3.
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Guys,
Certainly an interesting discussion thread we have here. We had size limitations on the amount of software to place on the DS so did not preload the NWDI
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Hi Vin,
This is a complete system that includes ERP05 and NetWeaver04s (including Portal, BI, Web AS, XI, MDM etc..).
Besides the technical components it also includes several example sceanrios that demonstrate the concepts of enterprise SOA.
All this is currently packages on an HP server.
For further reading information:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/developerareas/esa/esadiscovery
For ordering information:
http://www.hp.com/sbso/special/serverstorage/sap.html?jumpid=ex_r295_go/server/sap/kimISS/3Q06DL380/events/flyers/052606
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>
Itai Sadan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you are licensed for SAP ERP or Business Suite, your account executive can work with the contracting department to make sure that the MaxDB segment is either added to an existing installation number or a new installation number will be created for you. Please note that usage of MaxDB will be provided to you on an evaluation basis.
>
> Should you need further support for the Discovery System please open a CSN ticket on component CA-SOA-DS.
>
> Regards,
>
> Itai
>
> Edited by: Itai Sadan on Jun 16, 2008 4:49 PM
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Error when using interactive form on SAP Discovery system

Hello,
we are trying to make a customer interactive form on the SAP Discovery system, everything works fine until we try to run a preview with interactive and changeble parameters turned on. By the way there is a SAP provided credential on the system. (system SAP ECC 6.0 sp08)
the following error occurs while calling the ADS;
first error message:
error while logging into credential 'GeneralError: Operation failed.
SecurityHandler.login:-1:
The Digital ID specified is unknown.
Date : 03/23/2007
Time : 16:04:56:997
Message : error while logging into credential 'GeneralError: Operation failed.
SecurityHandler.login:-1:
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Severity : Error
Category :
Location : com.adobe.document.PDFManipulation
Application :
Thread : SAPEngine_Application_Thread[impl:3]_30
Datasource : 103929350:D:\usr\sap\ERP\DVEBMGS10\j2ee\cluster\server0\log\defaultTrace.trc
Message ID : 0018FEFB4E8F00710000013D0000160000042C5960F15BB3
Source Name : com.adobe.document.PDFManipulation
Argument Objs :
Arguments :
Dsr Component :
Dsr Transaction : dcf0bd50d94f11db8e950018fefb4e8f
Dsr User :
Indent : 0
Level : 0
Message Code :
Message Type : 0
Relatives :
Resource Bundlename :
Session : 0
Source : com.adobe.document.PDFManipulation
ThreadObject : SAPEngine_Application_Thread[impl:3]_30
Transaction :
User : J2EE_GUEST
second eror message:
Date : 03/23/2007
Time : 16:04:57:013
Message : Processing exception during a "UsageRights" operation.
Request start time: Fri Mar 23 16:04:53 CET 2007
com.adobe.ProcessingError: Credential login error while applying usage rights to PDF: C:\WINDOWS\Temp\adobewa_ERP_103929350\DM-8398477217709800775.dir\DM-8673971829680153343.tmp
Specific error information:
$$$/PDF/PDFCredentialLoginFailure2=error while logging into credential '^0'
GeneralError: Operation failed.
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IDL:com/adobe/document/pdf/CredentialLoginFailure:1.0
Severity : Error
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Application : com.adobe/AdobeDocumentServices
Thread : SAPEngine_Application_Thread[impl:3]_27
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Message ID : 0018FEFB4E8F0067000001290000160000042C5960F1B348
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Argument Objs :
Arguments :
Dsr Component : IWDFVM2160.wdf_ERP_103929350
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Dsr User : ADSUSER
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Level : 0
Message Code :
Message Type : 0
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Date : 03/23/2007
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Message : Client: 200 SystemId: ERP AppName: SAFP
Processing exception during a "UsageRights" operation.
Request start time: Fri Mar 23 16:04:53 CET 2007
com.adobe.ProcessingError: Credential login error while applying usage rights to PDF: C:\WINDOWS\Temp\adobewa_ERP_103929350\DM-8398477217709800775.dir\DM-8673971829680153343.tmp
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$$$/PDF/PDFCredentialLoginFailure2=error while logging into credential '^0'
GeneralError: Operation failed.
SecurityHandler.login:-1:
The Digital ID specified is unknown.
General error information:
IDL:com/adobe/document/pdf/CredentialLoginFailure:1.0
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... 31 more
Severity : Fatal
Category :
Location : com.adobe.AdobeDocumentServices
Application : com.adobe/AdobeDocumentServices
Thread : SAPEngine_Application_Thread[impl:3]_27
Datasource : 103929350:D:\usr\sap\ERP\DVEBMGS10\j2ee\cluster\server0\log\defaultTrace.trc
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Many thanx in advance
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Dear friend,
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