Restore referenced masters

Since referenced masters are not backed up by the Aperture vault, I was wondering about the best back-up strategy for referenced master files. Is it sufficient to preserve the path (i.e. folder hierarchy and file names) when backing up to a separate HD or DVD? Will Aperture recognize referenced files even if they are kept on a different hard drive or DVD if they are kept in the same path? Or, would I have to re-create a hard drive with an identical name in case my original hard drive dies. Does it matter whether the files are kept on firewire, USB or SATA?
MB Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8) Aperture 1.5

In case you change the location of the images you can point to the new location in File/Manage Referenced Files.
In the window that will pop up you find everything very intuitive. You can choose a different HD, DVD... It will tell you if there are masters lost as well.

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Lost my referenced masters after update 3.0.1

Dear all, after the update to 3.01 a few hours ago I have no more access to my referenced masters.
When I try to open Photoshop or other plug-ins there is an error message.
After having so much trouble with the update from A2 to A3 whilst getting them fixed with your help here, I`m looking forward to waste another week-end.
Actions so fare done:
shutdown and restart, no progress
cmd + alt restart, no progress
recover latest update from time machine gets me a library file which is 1/3 of the size of the original lib (11GB vs. 33.3GB). No pictures can be seen, only colored stripes, activity window showing me that the program reworks 44.000 objects. I`m not very optimistic to get my library back.
Any other ideas.
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I'm having a similar issue, my refrenced images (stored on a network drive) are fine but my managed images (stored in the aperture library) are missing. I have the previews but not the images.
I have repaired and restored my library niether have worked
I also restored my hard drive using time machine to A2 and the images are still missing

Freeing up laptop HD - referenced masters

I'm working with a large project of my India trip as a I travel. I have it sub-divided into albums based on different places I've visited as I visit them (chronologically).
I'm working on my laptop so space is limited and I now want to delete some of the initial referenced masters and externally edited versions. Is relocate masters the correct way to do this? And what about relocating externally edited versions? As I'm on a slow system, I still use PS for editing.
I backup my entire system to two external FW drives using CCC. So I already have 'relocated masters' on external storage. So all I really want to do is delete the masters/externally edited files on my laptop but I don't want to cause a break in Aperture's links. Is there a way to take advantage of these external drive files in the whole relocating/reconnecting process? Or do I need to relocate separately?
One possible solution I can think of: Would moving the referenced masters and externally edited images to the trash and then use Manage Referenced Files to point the broken links to the equivalent images in one of my external drives be sensible? And what about the other backup drive? If the external drive whose images the aplibrary now links to failed, could I then use Manage Referenced Files to restore the path to the other backups on my second external drive?
Thanks for any help,
Ross

I think you're saying you've got the images both on your internal drive as managed and on external storage. You want to delete the managed images on your internal drive, and use the images on the external drives. If I have that right, and assuming you've made all the adjustments to the images that are managed, and wish to keep those adjustments, then your best bet is to actually delete the images on the external drive then relocate your masters from your library to the external drive. That way you'll get them off your internal HD, keep all your current adjustments, and eliminate duplicates.
As I reread your post I'm not positive I understand what you're trying to do. You can delete referenced images from within Aperture and check the box to delete the masters. This will move your images no matter where they are to the trash. If you've then got them someplace else, edited with PS, you can import those.

Import photos from SD Card into a library with referenced masters

I have the following problem:
I would like to migrate from Aperture (that I used for the past couple of years) to Photos for OS X. (Well, let's say I feel kind of forced to by Apple's decision to abandon Aperture and since I do not like to switch to Lightroom (which I fear will soon be available via Adobe's Cloud system!)). I successfully migrated my Aperture library to Photos. My library is a 'referenced library', i.e. a library where the original photos ('masters') are NOT inside the library but stored in a separate location. In my case the original photos are stored on a NAS. Photos recognizes all my photos and by right-clicking on a photo I can select the 'Show in Finder' option and Photos correctly shows then the location of the corresponding photo on the NAS. So far so good.
The problem arises when I want to import new photos from the camera (or its SD card). I plugin the SD card into the Mac and fire up Photos. Then I click on 'Import'. I do not succeed in importing the photos from the SD card in a way that the original files (masters) are copied to the NAS (the place where I keep my masters). In fact when I import then everything (also the master files) are copied into the library (which is located on the Mac's internal SSD.) This happens despite I have deselected "Copy objects into photo library" in the Photos app Preferences.
(Another problem is that, with Aperture, I could import photos from the SD card in a way that the originals were copied to the NAS, renamed appropriately (e.g. <date>-<time>.JPG and put automatically in an Aperture-created folder structure (year/month/day). I fear that the only way to keep on working with 'referenced' masters will be by NOT using Photos' Import function directly for the import from the SD card, but first to copy 'manually' (using the Finder) the photos from the SD card to the NAS (after having created year, month, day folders manually) and then to use Photos Import function. Is this really the sad truth?
Another problem is: When I delete a photo from the library, it will NOT be deleted from the masters! :-(
Has anybody experienced the same problems?
Cheers
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Aperture 3 Backing Up Referenced Masters

I am trying to develop my workflow better.
I shoot images into the field and download them to my laptop. I then transfer them back to my iMac when I get home. I use Aperture 3 for my pictures.
In Aperture, I have all of my files referenced to a external drive. I want to back these photos up overnight using a Drobo or Synology NAS drive.
Does anyone have any experience on which would be better?
I could also implement a workflow in which the files will be referenced on the Drobo or NAS and then backed up overnight. I will be backing up the referenced just in case something were to happen to it.
Anyone have opinions on this?

Aperture 3 added a "Trash".
The deleted versions go into the trash, and you have to empty the trash to truly delete them. At this point it will ask if you want to delete the referenced masters as well.
As a pro, I'd rather not have a trash... But oh well, gotta appease the newbies.
Message was edited by: Matthew Bergsma

Vault + Time Machine w/ Referenced Masters

I know this general question has been asked several times, but I can't find a solution that matches my specific setup. I'm running Aperture off my MBP, so I have set up one external drive to hold my referenced masters. My internal drive has my aperture library with previews, etc. I also have one other external drive that is my dedicated Time Machine backup drive. How should I approach backing up? If I have Time Machine backup the aperture library and referenced masters, is there any advantage of adding a vault as well? Thanks for any help!

Gerry,
This ain't hard, just a bit complex.
To answer you first question: At this point, a Vault is of little value; Time Machine does everything you need and does it automagically. (Unless you leave Aperture running all of the time.) Time Machine is much better if you use referenced masters as the Vault does not back them up.
Time Machine is great as it creates images of your disk every hour - wonderful if you delete something by accident. People worry about filling their Time Machine disk. Don't. As long as your disk is large enough for one full back up the extra space only gets you time - that is you can go further back. For most of us, one month is all the history we will ever need. And when your disk fills, Time Machine diligently deletes the oldest data to assure that you always have a current backup. Nice.
A clone, on the other hand, is just that, an exact (usually bootable) copy of your disk. Normally, when you update a clone it adds what you have added but it also deletes what you have deleted. Delete something by mistake two days ago and last night's backup will delete it as well. On the other hand, have your Mac die (as mine did, 3,000 miles from the nearest Apple Store) and you can plug your clone into any other Mac and you are good to go. Slick.
Finally, off site is just that. What happens if your house burns or is robbed? You could lose your mac and all of your backups as well. There are many ways to do off site, from a hard disk that you sneaker net to your neighbor to a commercial service like Crashplan or Carbonite.
Hope this helps.

Aperture thinks a project has offline referenced masters - but it doesn't!

I've just been consolidating two Aperture libraries by exporting projects from one library and importing them into another. For the most part this has gone smoothly, but in one project all the images have the little badge with the red slash through it, to indicate that the referenced masters are offline.
But they're not! The project itself is 2.2 GB - so all the photos are actually in it - and when I click 'consolidate masters' for that project, Aperture tells me there are no referenced masters for this project. For every image that's missing a master (if that makes sense) there's a version that's NOT missing a master. So the data's there and I can work with the image - I'm just a bit worried about making radical moves without knowing exactly what's going on
I've tried deleting the project and reimporting it, but to no avail - also, when I delete the project, it tells me referenced masters are offline and can't be moved to the trash.

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Can't reconnect Missing Referenced Masters

I have a library which is a mixture of Managed and Referenced Masters. Library on SSD and Referenced Masters on HDD.
A very small number of Masters have gone AWOL and I can't reconnect them. Using Spotlight, I can locate the actual Masters with Finder - they are just where I expect them to be, in a subfolder in a Folder called "Aperture Masters" on my HDD.
Here is an example
The badge on this image looks like this
When I choose Update from Master, I get this message
So then I try to reconnect via "Locate Referenced Files..." and get this message
These images are findable by filtering on "Missing" or "Offline"
All but one have the badge with the arrow and the yellow triangle.
One has a badge like this (a kind of inverted MobileMe sourced badge
Any ideas on how to reconnect?

Interesting. The User Manual I was reading is a PDF and it defines the badge as this. Note that the badge is flipped in the two versions and the PDF doesn't mention FaceBook or Flickr.
Seems I should re-download the User Manual

Aperture 3 not deleting referenced masters

I have upgraded to Aperture 3 and unfortunately it does not delete the (newly imported) referenced master file.
Aperture 2 always asked whether I also wanted to delete the master or not, when deleting a version. Aperture 3 has not asked me this question yet. Is this by design or is something not working?
When a version is selected in an album and I select "File>Delete master and all versions" the versions are deleted, but when I go to the folder where the reference masters are located the file is still there. The files are in a folder on my Mac book pro.
Thanks for any thoughts/solutions

Aperture 3 added a "Trash".
The deleted versions go into the trash, and you have to empty the trash to truly delete them. At this point it will ask if you want to delete the referenced masters as well.
As a pro, I'd rather not have a trash... But oh well, gotta appease the newbies.
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Referenced masters: How can you tell where a photo's master is?

After reading many recommendations on this site, I have set up my main library on my internal HD with referenced masters on an external HD.
Now I need to import a job which I shot out of state and which was saved as a managed library on my MBP. So I copied it to an external drive and then Imported it into the main A3 library. That worked just fine but it seems like it copied all the masters as well as the versions from that new library into the main one.
Before I try to relocated them, how can I tell where the master for a particular photo is located?
Thank you very much.
Bo

Versions are always in the Library (they are text instructions saved to a file and applied on-the-fly to the Master in order to produce the image on screen (mostly)). Masters are either in the Library (in which case they are "Managed"), or not in the Library (in which case they are "Referenced"). The Library is a "package". A package is a container of files which shows as a single file to the user.
Badges tell you the status of the Master on which the Version is based. No badge = Managed. Referenced Masters show a badge. Off-line Referenced Masters show a modification of this badge. Versions with Missing Masters show yet another version of this badge.
Badges can be toggled to show or not via the Metadata Overlays. All seven of the Metadata Overlays can be customized.
Use the filter Rule "File Status" to filter for "Managed", "Referenced", "On-line", "Off-line", and "Missing".
If you want to move all Manage Masters to your external drive, in Photos view filter using the "File Status" Rule set to "Managed", then select all and "File→Relocate Master".

Can't import referenced masters into Library

I've used referenced masters for years, since Aperture 1. Now I'm trying to import, and I get the error "Insufficient disk space". Here are the details
OSX 10.7.5
Aperture 3.4.1 (Just updated)
Current RAW Folder                              110 GB
Current Aperture Library                         9.9GB
Free space on startup disk                    13.3 GB   (not a lot, I know)
Space required (according to aperture)     3 GB
Folder I'm trying to import                         19.4 GB
Camera Nikon D7000, files NEF format. No previous problem with this camera.
If 100GB can be represented by 9.9 GB in the Aperture library, why does it want 16.3 GB to import 19.4 GB?
I have "Store files in their current location" selected in the Import pane.

Gil I think there are a couple of basics you need to come to grips with.
Assuming your Aperture library is on your start up disk and that you only have 13GB free, DO NOT PLACE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS DRIVE, until you clear out some space adding more files to this drive is only asking for trouble.
So Aperture.
100GB is represented by 9.9GB, yes, Aperture has created previews of the referenced files and has a database to describe them = 9.9GB, 100GB of master files/images still reside on the other drive though.
The folder of files you are trying to import, 19.4 GB, you say you are now using a managed file workflow, that being the case Aperture now copies the files into the library, so there is no way that 19.4GB will fit into 13.3GB, plus there will then be an additional 1-2GB, based on 110GB=9GB, of space required by Aperture.
I hope this makes sense.
Moving forward, get youself two external drives, have you library, managed or not, along with any referenced files on one drive, the other drive use for your back up.
Tony

Using the same Referenced Masters across Multiple External Hard Drives?

I have a large (2TB) desktop external hard drive that I am now using as the source of my referenced masters for Aperture.
I would like to copy this reference library ("My Photo Library") to a small, mobile external hard drive to use "on-the-go". But, if possible, I'd like to continue using the desktop external when I'm at home.
What's the best way to do this? Should I just copy "My Photo Library" from the desktop external drive to the mobile external and Relocate Masters? But then, how do I switch back to using the desktop drive when I'm home without having to Relocate Masters every time (my library is quite large: 17K+ photos of 8-21MB each). Is there a way to "trick" Aperture into thinking that both drives are the same drive???

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Drives:
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Backing up Referenced Masters

Would like some advice on what you consider the best approach to backup when using a mix of Reference Masters and Managed Masters in the library.
My understanding is that you cant use Vault on Referenced Masters and cant use Time Machine either.
Your advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
LArry

Just to be clear, all edits and adjustments, along with thumbnails and previews, regardless of managed or reference masters, are stored in Aperture Library.
Just use Vault to backup your Aperture Library (that has managed masters and adjustments, previews and thumbnails). Your referenced master, simply needs to be backed up by duplicating the files on another drive than where is resides. I simply save may referenced masters on two separate external drives when I read them off the card on exactly same folder/directory structure. If you get a RAID drive (other than RAID 0), it will do this for you automatically.
Many people use multiple Ap Library and is not an issue, but not typically for the reason you've brought up. Rather, one for business and another for personal, or one each for major clients.
Cheers

Referenced masters or library on external drive?

My Aperture library with managed masters has outgrown my macbook pro. Is it better to switch to referenced masters on an external drive or move the whole library to an external drive and continue with managed files?
thoughts on this, please...

Matthew Bergsma wrote:
Keeping your library on one drive and your masters on another has noticeable speed benefits.
I totally agree with that.
I store my files on a ReadyNas Duo that mirrors the images using two hard drives. Gives you some protection when a hard drive dies.

New user - managed or referenced masters?

I finally jumped and bought Aperture after having outgrown iPhoto and gone through the Ap2 and Lr demos.
Now begins the process of migrating my current and old photos into Aperture.
Right now I've got less than 15k photos. I have an organization scheme in mind, but I'm looking for advice as to whether I should go managed or referenced.
I realize that this isn't an all or nothing decision (it is really a project setting), and that I can change my mind later if necessary.
Managed:
+ simple
+ vaults backup images and Ap-specific data
- doesn't play well with Time Machine
Pros for referenced:
+ can span multiple drives
+ works well(better) with Time Machine
+ can easily share masters with other apps (I don't plan to)
- vaults only backup Ap-specific data, not images
Have I missed anything?
Any recommendations?

I prefer Referenced Masters even on a Mac Pro. IMO it makes for a clean backup workflow and a forever-logical organization. And Referencing Masters ensures that the size of the Library will always be small enough that it need not cause a hard drive to exceed 50% full and reduce speed.
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• Eject CF.
• Burn DVD copies of the original images.
• Eject DVDs.
• Import images from the hard drive folder into Aperture selecting "Store files in their current location."
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