Restoring Elements 8 Organizer data

I'm asking this question on behalf of my parents, who are not highly computer literate. They use Elements 8 Organizer to keep track of their extensive photo collection, including those of professional art work and many overseas trips. In April their computer locked up due to a virus and had to be reinstalled from the Windows 7 OS up. All of their photos had been backed up with Norton 360, but apparently they did not have a mirror of their hard drive--only documents and settings. Consequently, when Elements 8 was reinstalled, they no longer had the organization of the photos as before. I am trying to determine if there is a data file somewhere on the hard drive that captures Organizer's folders, tags, etc., by reference, and if that was possibly in the folders that were backed up. If so, I would think I could just replace the current Organizer data file with their old one, as all the photos have been restored to their original positions in My Pictures. Can anyone provide the pathway to this file or set of files so I can determine whether or not they can get their original organization back? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

The organizer stores its data in catalogs.
Physically, catalogs are folders (one folder per catalog) containing the main component, a sqlite database named 'catalog.pse8db' as well as several other components such as the thumbnail cache.
By default the catalogs are stored in 'hidden folders' in C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\catalogs.
When you are in the organizer, you find the exact location of the current catalog in the Help menu, System Info.
So, do a search for 'catalog.pse8db' on the old drive.
If you can find it (make sure by its size that it's not a new empty catalog), you can copy the whole folder either in that same location in the new computer or anywhere else.
Double clicking on that catalog.pse8db file should open the organizer with this catalog.
Your problem will be that the organizer will recognize that the drive identification has been changed and show all thumbnails as 'missing'. For the organizer, the drive is defined not only by its letter, but also by the internal serial number of the drive.
So, you'll have to use the 'reconnect' function of the organizer so that the organizer finds the real location and updates the database.
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Quickly_reconnecting_large
Reconnect missing files | Photoshop Elements | Windows
Can't edit, open, reconnect photos or media | Incorrect drive letter | Elements 6 or later Organizer | Windows
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Bonjour,
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Hello,
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Le dossier est sur le disque E (qui est mon disque de données). C étant bien sûr le disc Système.
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Lone_Wolf wrote:
rezad,
it was a long time ago i had that problem and locale handling is like a black box to me.
It's easy to reverse if it doesn't help though, why don't you try it ?
I have tried it.
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I see these error when running apps from command line.
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.MTS files in elements organizer: no thumbnails, not playing

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I was able to use it a few days ago. At that time I had been using video from the same camera but that time it I had saved it originally to the camera's internal memory. When I had the problem last night it was with video I had saved to a memory card. A message which I do not remember came up asking if I'd like to change the preset as my current settings didn't match the video format. I said yes and then nothing worked after that. I can't even view the project I did several days ago now either.
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 20:55:46 -0800
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: .MTS files in elements organizer: no thumbnails, not playing
    Re: .MTS files in elements organizer: no thumbnails, not playing
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Goldsk8te
You put yourself at a disadvantage by tagging on to an older thread and not starting a new thread of your own. I just saw your post now.
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2. How would you class this issue "It worked before but not now" or "it never worked before"?
3. What is your project preset?
4. What are the properties of this .mts files...AVCHD video compression? 1080i or 1080p or other?
More later in the morning.
ATR
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