Restoring original firmware *without* iPod updater?

Recently (since upgrading to iTunes 6?), my 2nd gen iPod no longer mounts (on OS X or winXP). I'd like to roll back the firmware to try an earlier version, but this isn't possible with the iPod Updater software, since my iPod doesn't appear on my computer.
Can you restore the original firmware from the iPod ROM without using the updater? (ie. using some sort of button combination or hardware switch)
Also: my iPod charges over firewire when connected to the computer, but doesn't mount, so I'm guessing it isn't a firewire problem.

Absolutely, I have run into the same exact problem with my 20g iPod (second generation). It no longer mounts to the desktop or to iTunes. I've removed iTunes and attempted to reinstall the iPod Updater, but limits the updater to my hd, since the iPod fails to mount properly.
Also, if you check your system profiler, you'll see (most likely) that it is still reading the presence of the device. It's there, but it isn't. The device works fine when on its own, but simply does not mount.
They need to give us a solution ASAP that doesn't destroy all the information on our devices. We are sinking together.

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