Restrict Creation of Cost Elements

Hi All,
I have a situation in which I have to restrict creation of Cost Elements for some of my P&L GL accounts. Is there any way I can restrict them. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
MKR

Hi MKR,
I would recommend not to have any validations for this.. This is the heart of the whole system and needs to be maintained in a very disciplined way
If you put hard stops for such things, people will never understand the relevance of things and slowly the mind set evolves like "Unless the system gives a hard stop, any thing and every thing can be done"... So, they go on creating nuisance in the system till the system stops them
Moreover, there is no logic by which you can control this even if you try for an ABAP check... If you do still, it will propose probs in future...
Provide the authorization for creating/changing cost elements to one single person who understands the system well and have a central control...
Regards
Ajay M

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Yes. We do face problem like this often. We wriggle out by updating through manually when we are very nearer to go-live date. Otherwise, we can create an abap program and meet the deficiency.
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MANUAL CREATION OF COST ELEMENTS - Cost elements maintained manually. A push button is available for
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When I selected "manual creation of cost elements" in OB13, Then we can create a group of cost elements in OKB2 followed by OKB3 and SM35.
Even I need to do same thing I when I select " automatic creation of cost elements" ??
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Dear Santosh Dharana,
Good Question. i can clarify you. this question
1. when you select in ob13 create cost elements manually
when your are using in obk2 we have to maintain here Acc from no. to Acc to no. ranges for Gl's and cost element categeory.
after we can run batch in put in obk3 & SM 35 it's updated successfully.
Note: After execute, *when you are try create another GL account with cost element we have to give cost element categeory by manually.
2.when you select in ob13 create cost elementsAutomatically
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after we can run batch in put in obk3 & SM 35 it's updated successfully.
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First of all you have to select automatic creation of cost elements for your chart of account in OB13.
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Hi Mohammed,
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I need to add new cost elements(may be something like 100 accounts) in cost element groups(KAH2)
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can anyone please let me know if there is any other way in changing the cost element group for adding these new cost elements.
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GL account and Cost elements

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Thanks
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Hi Priya,
1. If automatic creation of the cost element is selected in your chart of accounts then you check it out list in transaction OKB2 where there is less scope to miss the creation of cost elements.
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