RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY value

Hi,
in 10g R2 on Win 2003,
we do an incremental rman backup every night excepte sunday and every sunday a full rman backup. We want to be able to restore from last 3 weeks (I mean from 21 days before, if today is 25 of feb, to be able to restore/recover from 4 of Feb). Then what should be the value of RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY of RMAN catalog ?
Many thanks.

thank you . How about this :
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/backup.102/b14192/setup005.htm#sthref261
3.5.5.1 Configuring a Recovery Window-Based Retention Policy
The RECOVERY WINDOW parameter of the CONFIGURE command specifies the number of days between the current time and the earliest point of recoverability. RMAN does not consider any full or level 0 incremental backup as obsolete if it falls within the recovery window. Additionally, RMAN retains all archived logs and level 1 incremental backups that are needed to recover to a random point within the window.
Run the CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY command at the RMAN prompt. This example ensures that you can recover the database to any point within the last week:
RMAN> CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
RMAN does not automatically delete backups rendered obsolete by the recovery window. Instead, RMAN shows them as OBSOLETE in the REPORT OBSOLETE output and in the OBSOLETE column of V$BACKUP_FILES. RMAN deletes obsolete files if you run the DELETE OBSOLETE command.
3.5.5.2 Configuring a Redundancy-Based Retention Policy
The REDUNDANCY parameter of the CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY command specifies how many backups of each datafile and control file that RMAN should keep. In other words, if the number of backups for a specific datafile or control file exceeds the REDUNDANCY setting, then RMAN considers the extra backups as obsolete. The default retention policy is REDUNDANCY=1.
As you produce more backups, RMAN keeps track of which ones to retain and which are obsolete. RMAN retains all archived logs and incremental backups that are needed to recover the nonobsolete backups.
Assume that you make a backup of datafile 7 on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. You now have four backups of the datafile. If REDUNDANCY is 2, then the Monday and Tuesday backups are obsolete. If you make another backup on Friday, then the Wednesday backup becomes obsolete.
Run the CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY command at the RMAN prompt, as in the following example:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
3.5.5.3 Showing the Current Retention Policy
RMAN> SHOW RETENTION POLICY;
see V$RMAN_CONFIGURATION

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    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1;
    CONFIGURE BACKUP OPTIMIZATION OFF; # defaultEdited by: user10243788 on Apr 24, 2012 1:14 AM

    user10243788 wrote:
    Our database is 11g R2, below is our RMAN script
    Presently our retention policy is 1, so 1 backup is retained along with the current backup.
    I Just want to have 1 backup, i.e RMAN should take the backup and delete the old bacup.
    Will it work if i change the retention policy to 0 ?You cannot set the retention policy to redundancy 0 because redundancy count must be greater than zero.
    >
    RUN
    ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch1 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
    ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch2 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
    ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch3 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
    DELETE NOPROMPT OBSOLETE;
    BACKUP DATABASE INCLUDE CURRENT CONTROLFILE format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
    SQL "ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG CURRENT";
    BACKUP ARCHIVELOG ALL DELETE INPUT format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
    }Just switch the order of operation:
    use
    BACKUP DATABASE INCLUDE CURRENT CONTROLFILE format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
    DELETE NOPROMPT OBSOLETE;
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    DELETE NOPROMPT OBSOLETE;
    BACKUP DATABASE INCLUDE CURRENT CONTROLFILE format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
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  • RMAN Backups with retention policy to redundancy 1 doesn't work fine.

    Hi experts,
    I have a Oracle database with the following system backups:
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    Tuesday:      Full Backup
    Wednesday:  ArchiveLog Backup
    Thursday:     ArchiveLog Backup
    Friday :         Full Backup
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    Wednesday:  ArchiveLog Backup
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    Wednesday:  ArchiveLog Backup
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    You are confused about the purpose of crosscheck.
    There are two concepts for which you must grasp the distinction.
    - Expired
    - Obsolete
    Expired
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    Crosscheck simply checks the existence of the archivelogs or backupsets that are recorded in the repository.  If something went missing (say, if you used an OS command to delete archivelogs), the record of the missing file is marked as 'expired'.  If you follow the crosscheck command with a 'delete expired' command, the repository records that have been marked 'expired' are deleted from the repository, so rman has no more memory of those files.  Note that 'expired' has nothing to do with retention policy.  Also note that if you do not actually issue the 'delete expired' command, the expired records will remain in the repository. 
    Obsolete
    The retention policy deals with when a backupset is obsolete, meaning it is no longer needed to protect the retention period.  Backupset are not marked as obsolete.  They are evaluated for obsolescence at the time of a command that needs it -- "report obsolete" or "delete obsolete", or when FRA maintenance requires an implied 'delete obsolete'.

  • ASM and CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1

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    ASM has nothing to do with retention or deletion. You can find the definition of redundancy in the docs at http://tahiti.oracle.com

  • CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1;

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    >
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  • Purpose of Retention Policy Recovery Window and Redundancy

    Hi,
    Good Evening,
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    2. Explain the scenario if i set the control_file_record_keep_time=4 Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7?
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    Vijay.

    Hi,
    Take a look of the above doc contents:
    Configuring the Backup Retention Policy
    As explained in "Backup Retention Policies", the backup retention policy specifies which backups must be retained to meet your data recovery requirements. This policy can be based on a recovery window or redundancy. Use the CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY command to specify the retention policy.
    so  you have option to choose either  recovery windows or redundancy based you can set the configuration like
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    Redundancy-Based Retention Policy==>The REDUNDANCY parameter of the CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY command specifies how many full or level 0 backups of each datafile and control file that RMAN should keep. If the number of full or level 0 backups for a specific datafile or control file exceeds the REDUNDANCY setting, then RMAN considers the extra backups as obsolete. The default retention policy is REDUNDANCY 1.
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    old RMAN configuration parameters:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
    new RMAN configuration parameters:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
    new RMAN configuration parameters are successfully stored
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    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
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    old RMAN configuration parameters:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
    new RMAN configuration parameters:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
    new RMAN configuration parameters are successfully stored
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    RMAN configuration parameters for database with db_unique_name DDTEST are:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
    CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME:This parameter applies only to records in the control file that are circularly reusable (such as archive log records and various backup records) ref Doc:CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME
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    2. Explain the scenario if i set the control_file_record_keep_time=4 Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7?
    3. If i set the Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7 means my backup place only have 3 copies of backup based on the redundancy then what is the purpose of Recovery Window=7 please give some example.
    4. If i change the values for Recovery Window=3 and Redundancy=7 what will happened, how many days backup will be available in my FRA location?Explain with one scenario?
    so i believe you can get the Answer from Your Question from Above details.
    HTH

  • When Retention policy is set as REDUNDANCY

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    on the 5th day,the first (out of 4 copies) copy of backup becomes obseleteprovided that you do exactly one backup every day. If you do 6 backups a day -- e.g. every 4 hours -- you'd be obsoleting a backup less than 24 hours old !
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    Wednesday-->     Level 1 backup
    Thursday-->     Level 1 backup
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    ==========================
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    =============================
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  • Control_file_record_keep_time vs retention policy

    Its not thread nor question just read from documents and tried to imply the fact of documents and i think its written correct what i tried to do proof it practically ,neither i am trying to be smart just share with you guys is my observation correct or not.i am using FRA area for backup.
    <quote>
    Relation between RMAN retention period and control_file_record_keep_time
    RMAN backup keeps the backup metadata information in the reusable section of the controlfile.Its depends on the parameter CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME. CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME specifies the minimum number of days before a reusable record in the control file can be reused.
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    <quote>
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    2> ;
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    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1; # default
    SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
    NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
    control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
    SQL>
    SQL> alter system set control_file_record_keep_time=1
      2  /
    System altered.
    SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
    NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
    control_file_record_keep_time        integer     1
    RMAN> configure retention policy to redundancy  3
    2> ;
    new RMAN configuration parameters:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
    new RMAN configuration parameters are successfully stored
    RMAN> show retention policy
    2> ;
    RMAN configuration parameters are:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
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    2> ;
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    channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
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    input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
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    channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
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    2> ;
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    no obsolete backups found
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    2> ;
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    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
    channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
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    channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
    NDF_TAG20071120T190313_3N5T94SG_.BKP comment=NONE
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    Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
    _639169477_3N5TCPVW_.BKP comment=NONE
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    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
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    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
    no obsolete backups found
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    2> ;
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    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
    channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
    channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
    NDF_TAG20071120T190500_3N5TDGC9_.BKP comment=NONE
    channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:55
    Finished backup at 20-NOV-07
    Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
    _639169556_3N5TG65X_.BKP comment=NONE
    Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
    Report of obsolete backups and copies
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Archive Log          30     19-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
    \ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_19\O1_MF_1_1_3N35QQX7_.ARC
    Archive Log          31     19-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
    \ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_19\O1_MF_1_2_3N39LR86_.ARC
    Archive Log          32     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
    \ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_3_3N4RZBXV_.ARC
    Archive Log          33     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
    \ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_4_3N4W8SLF_.ARC
    Archive Log          34     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
    \ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_5_3N4Y1CN7_.ARC
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    Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
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    03/17/2008  03:59 PM    <DIR>          .
    03/17/2008  03:59 PM    <DIR>          ..
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    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
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    03/17/2008  04:09 PM    <DIR>          .
    03/17/2008  04:09 PM    <DIR>          ..
    03/17/2008  04:09 PM         9,751,552 O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARC
                   1 File(s)      9,751,552 bytes
                   2 Dir(s)  62,563,205,120 bytes free
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    RMAN> report obsolete
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    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
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    Backup Set           240    17-MAR-08
      Backup Piece       231    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2008_03_17\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20080317T160604_3XWN4WTB_.B
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    Backup Set           241    17-MAR-08
      Backup Piece       232    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
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    KP
    Archive Log          403    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
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  • Retention policy for archivelogs in the flash recovery area

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    Say I set the retention policy to be "keeping 3 backups". How does it affect the archive logs? Will archive logs in the flash recovery area be deleted automatically or I need to do it manually. If they are deleted automatically just like dataset files, what is the "retention policy" for them? I do not have a tape device so all archive logs are going to be stay in disk.
    Thanks.

    I am using the flash recovery area for all my backup
    files (archive logs, data and control files). I want
    to use the redundancy retention policy because it is
    easy to calculate the space requirement. However, I
    am not clear how the retention policy applies to
    archive logs.
    RMAN> show retention policy
    2> ;
    RMAN configuration parameters are:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 2;
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
    no obsolete backups found
    RMAN> list backup
    2> ;
    RMAN>AS documentation says
    "Besides affecting datafile and control file backups, the retention policy affects archived logs and archived log backups.
    First, RMAN decides which datafile and control file backups are obsolete. Then, RMAN considers as obsolete all archived
    log backups that are older than the oldest datafile or control file backup that must be retained."
    Now i connect to SQL and create two big table for filling the redo log file and then get it archived.Please
    consider it here that i am getting archived before any taking backup i.e backup database in order to make
    archive older then the oldest datafile.
    SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
    NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
    control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
    SQL> create table a1 as select * from all_objects
      2  /
    Table created.
    SQL> create table a2 as select * from all_objects
      2  /
    Table created.
    C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
    03/17/2008  03:44 PM    <DIR>          .
    03/17/2008  03:44 PM    <DIR>          ..
    03/17/2008  03:44 PM         9,750,528 O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC
                   1 File(s)      9,750,528 bytes
                   2 Dir(s)  62,714,875,904 bytes free
    Now i take backup
    RMAN> backup database
    2> ;
    Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
    no obsolete backups found
    RMAN> backup database
    2> ;
    Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
    Report of obsolete backups and copies
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Archive Log          402    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARCYou can see the obsolete archived files which is the older then the oldest file which has been obsolete.It also
    does'nt make sense to keep the archived log files which is older then the oldest file cause it will no longer
    be useful for recovery process.
    now back to pavillion
    RMAN> delete obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Archive Log          402    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC
    Do you really want to delete the above objects (enter YES or NO)? yes
    deleted archive log
    archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELO
    G\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC recid=402 stamp=649611842
    Deleted 1 objects
    RMAN> delete backup
    2> ;
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    RMAN> list backup
    2> ;
    C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
    03_17
    03/17/2008  03:59 PM    <DIR>          .
    03/17/2008  03:59 PM    <DIR>          ..
                   0 File(s)              0 bytes
                   2 Dir(s)  62,724,440,064 bytes freenow this time what i did i created the archived log files after first backup in order to not to make it older
    then the oldest datafile backup.
    RMAN> backup database
    2> ;
    Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
    no obsolete backups foundnow i come to at SQL and make redo log file filled by creating 2 big tables in order to get it archived
    SQL> create table a3 as select * from all_objects
      2  /
    Table created.
    SQL> create table a4 as select * from all_objects
      2  /
    Table created.
    C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
    03_17
    03/17/2008  04:09 PM    <DIR>          .
    03/17/2008  04:09 PM    <DIR>          ..
    03/17/2008  04:09 PM         9,751,552 O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARC
                   1 File(s)      9,751,552 bytes
                   2 Dir(s)  62,563,205,120 bytes free
    RMAN> backup database
    2> ;
    Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting compressed full datafile backupset
    channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
    no obsolete backups foundYou can see no archived logs get obsolete yet cause the archivelog O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARC
    is not older then oldest datafile backup.
    But this archivelog file will get obsolete if its beyond the retention policy,lest see how ,just take one more
    backup ,as i have already taken two time backup and the moment i go to take third backup it will cross ours
    retetnion policy from the period of 2.
    RMAN> backup database
    2> ;
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
    Report of obsolete backups and copies
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Backup Set           240    17-MAR-08
      Backup Piece       231    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2008_03_17\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20080317T160604_3XWN4WTB_.B
    KP
    Backup Set           241    17-MAR-08
      Backup Piece       232    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2008_03_17\O1_MF_NCSNF_TAG20080317T160604_3XWN6Z95_.B
    KP
    Archive Log          403    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARCKhurram

  • Can i use the retention policy without using the Flash Recovery area?

    Yes ,lets see here
    RMAN>list backup summary
    C:\>dir *.bus
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    File Not Found
    C:\>dir *.arc
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    File Not Found
    RMAN> crosscheck backup
    2> ;
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    RMAN> list backup summary
    2> ;
    RMAN> show retention policy
    2> ;
    RMAN configuration parameters are:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1; # default
    RMAN> run {
    2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
    3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
    4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
    5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
    6>   release channel ch0;
    7>   allocate channel ch1 device type disk format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
    8>   release channel ch1;
    9>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
    10>   allocate channel ch2 device type disk format 'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus';
    11>   release channel ch2;
    12>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
    13> }
    released channel: ORA_DISK_1
    allocated channel: ch0
    channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=24 recid=79 stamp=652108461
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=25 recid=80 stamp=652112650
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:05
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
    channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
    BF
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
    04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP comment=NONE
    Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    released channel: ch0
    allocated channel: ch1
    channel ch1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    released channel: ch1
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
    allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Backup Set           128    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       128    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
    Archive Log          79     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC
    Archive Log          80     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC
    deleted backup piece
    backup piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC recid=128 stamp=652112652
    deleted archive log
    archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
    OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC recid=79 stamp=652108461
    deleted archive log
    archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
    OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC recid=80 stamp=652112650
    Deleted 3 objects
    released channel: ORA_DISK_1
    allocated channel: ch2
    channel ch2: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    released channel: ch2
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
    allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    no obsolete backups found
    RMAN>
    C:\>dir *.bus
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    04/15/2008  02:24 PM        96,813,056 RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
                   1 File(s)     96,813,056 bytes
                   0 Dir(s)  61,960,724,480 bytes free
    C:\>dir *.arc
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    04/15/2008  02:25 PM            56,832 ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
                   1 File(s)         56,832 bytes
                   0 Dir(s)  61,960,724,480 bytes free
    C:\>
    RMAN> run {
    2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
    3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
    4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
    5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
    6>   release channel ch0;
    7>  }
    released channel: ORA_DISK_1
    allocated channel: ch0
    channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=27 recid=82 stamp=652112873
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
    channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
    BF
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\RMAN_135_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=28 recid=83 stamp=652112925
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_136_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
    04_15\O1_MF_S_652112928_408XBKCZ_.BKP comment=NONE
    Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    released channel: ch0
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
    Report of obsolete backups and copies
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Backup Set           129    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       129    15-APR-08          C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
    Backup Set           130    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       130    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
    Backup Set           131    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       131    15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP
    Backup Set           132    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       132    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
    Archive Log          81     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_26_408X3HRP_.ARC
    Archive Log          82     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_27_408X8RXN_.ARC
    RMAN>Note: i have archivelog which is at FRA ,it also apply there and as well yours own defined backupsets path.
    Yours comments are wellcome.
    http://oraware.blogspot.com/2008/04/can-i-use-retention-policy-without.htmlKhurram

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