Return of scrap from vendor Sub contracting

Dear gurus
Pls advice me on how to map this scenario
we are sending two raw materials to subcontractor for a semi finished product. during the process scrap is also generated which is of value to the organization and they need to receive it from the sub contractor.
now hot to work on this scenario
your valuable advice is greatly appreciated
regards
John

Hi,
create a material master record for the scrap material. Maintain the scrap material with a negative quantity either in the BOM or in the material components while creating the subcontracting PO.
Post the components to Vendor's stock with movement type 541. Later send the materials to vendor physically. While receiving the materials (Goods Receipt) w.r.t.the sub contracting PO with MT 101, the following postings happen,
components will be posted with movement type 543 ( - ) and the scrap with MT 545 'O' (stock category) [MT 545 - material lying at Vendor's location]. Later u can take back this scrap material from the vendor with movement type 542. This is the complete procedure in terms of goods movements.
Don't forget to Reward, if found useful.
Regards,
Varma

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i have craeted Sub contracting PO for SFG .
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Why i cant receive the same ?
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Hi,
scrap should be entered in BOM as -ve qty...
While you recieve the end product(finished) scrap will be accumulated in vendor's place with the movement type 545 O-.
You have to reverse manually using 542 mvt type...
If its accumulation and over accumulation - 545
If cumulated qty is less you can do subsequwnt adjustment using 121 and indirectly 546 gets hit..
Reg,
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Dear Pankaj,
What if sending material code (RM) is same as the returning material (Scrap)code.
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ram

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CS02 to change BOM
if the first screen shows alternative BOMs then select one and click Item button
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Hi Experts,
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Hi Sudhakar,
What's your opinion about this:
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Dear All,
I have a requirement where my client wants to have a challan made for materials that they are sending back via return delivary.
scenario
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Chandra

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Pl check status of material documenty in J_1IGRXSUB table and compare it with respective Table entries in MSEG & J_1IEXCDTL table.
Check wheter scrap qty is maintained.
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With regards,
Ajay

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for which T-codes am using for mvt 544 and 545 to get the scrap from sub-contracting vendor
rgds

hi,
its will be used in case of using special stocks...in tocde MIGO...545, 544- is used for offsetting entry for inventory posting and cost price differences...- its GI receipt sls. or st...with special stock E, O , Q...
554 - MIGO - For GR and GI - withdrawl for scrap from QI sc stock...
Regards,
Priyanka.P
AWARD IF HELPFULL
Edited by: Priyanka Paltanwale on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 AM

Multi-level sub-contracting involving multiple vendors

I need complete process to understand for following sub-contracting scenarios.
Customer is purchaseing materials from vendor1 with an instruction to supply it to vendor2 for further processinng. Vendor2 returns the materials to customer. Customer needs to create PO to vendor1 and subcontracting PO to vendor2 so that their payment can be settled through IR from vendors.

->1-> Your Plant will raise Raw material PO on vendor V1 . This PO must have "SC vendor" ticked along with the V2 vendor specified in the Delivery Address tab in PO item .
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