Return Process for Depot Excise Billing.

Hi,
We are following Depot Excise Billing Process. Where we are using Stock Transport Purchase Order Process for transferring the goods from Mfg.Plant to Depot.
Now, we require return process for returning the Goods from Depot to Mfg. Plant. Please also confirm Excise Register needs to be updated? If yes, please tell us the transaction for the same.
For satisfactory answer ful points will be rewarded.
Thanks and Regards,
Dilip Shende

Hi Murali,
I have followed the procedure given. However, in J1IEX transaction system gives me error message "Excise Invoice 9001000027 28.05.2008 of plant 410027 does not exist"
Where Excise Invoice 9001000027/28.05.2008 is the number generated in T.Code J1IJ. And 410027 is Vendor code.
Please give your valuable suggession to solve the issue.
Thanks and Regards
Dilip Shende

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My answers are in BOLD. I have done some tests and my advise is based on the tests.
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According to My Job Work Scenarios
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Can you please explain because my doubt is if i entered manually system will accept i want to restrict the end-user like for example he can enter over delivery 10 % and under delivery 5 % where i have to fix those percentage because if i am not fix End-User can enter sometimes over delivery 11 % and under delivery 10 % system will accept i want to restrict that
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I have tested this.
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Then - cond records in VK11 for different materials, for con type PR00 for M1 and M2; this is possible.
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