Returnable transport packaging concept.

Dear Experts,
Please help me to understand Returnable transport packaging concept. what are the pre requisites involved like material master data. & regarding traceability of the material.

Hi all SAP GURUS,
we have 1 special requirement involving of Capital Tools/Equipments( Capital Asset ), which we need to send to different sites thru ordinary truck wherever it requires and once the work is complete at site then 2 possibilities
1) If there is no further demand on tools then again we will take back of tools from site to our plant
or
2) If any demand further for tools then we need to send these tools from that site itself to another site where it requires.(i.e means not taking back the tools from the site to our plant.)
Note : In some cases some of tools not further required then some we will take back to our plant and some are again sent to another site where ever it trequires
Requirements to be fulfilled are:
Till we didnt created any Material masters for this so suggest the best possible method to follow in order to suit the above requirement considering the below constraints.
1) Tracking of Capital Tools at every point of time
2) Considering the Excise and Taxes involved in the above process at different poins of time
3) Documents which are required to prepare as per all Laws.

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Returnable transport packaging

Hi,
When i do a GR for a PO, i also receive the RTP Stock with <b>501 M</b> Movement type giving the vendor name of the RTP stock.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/4d/4b9036dfe4b703e10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
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Hi,
Steps for creating TRANSPORT PACKAGE
Go to SE80 and in the obj edit mode select Select DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION tab where u can giv ur PACKAGE NAME and create the package
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and save it.
Assign points if useful..
Regards,
NR
Edited by: N R Pradeep Reddy on Apr 10, 2008 11:29 AM

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